Who Should Be The 5th Starter?

[sidney lanier]

This guy.

[rayallenscalves]

I hadn't even considered Jae as an option to start TBH

I don't see Jae as a starter. That would mean one of them would have to guard 2s and I don't think either have anywhere near the foot speed to do so.

[FrieAaron]

I don’t think MarJon’s theoretical shooting outweighs the other stuff that Dre is better than him at.

I agree with this, but I also feel like AJJ might be someone who is better with a little higher usage than he'd get with the first group, although he has shown some nice off the ball plays and can keep the ball moving well. I'm going Pat for now, though.

[MVP2110]

You guys are lying to yourselves about the young players, they are not close to being ready to START on the best team in the NBA, and Pat will be a closer but he should never be a true 82 game starter.

Its between Jae and Beas

Beas should never be a true 82 game starter either. Tbh the Bucks don't have a guy like that so then the next best option would be to find the best fit among your bench crew & Beasley is seemingly the worst fit. He's likely going to take away shots from Dame, Giannis, & Khris while providing no value on defense.

So met me understand this bucks trade for heidl he shoots 15xs a game hes takibg shots away from the big 3 beasley the same 15 shots a game big fu... deal .Marjon shoots 15xs a game that woukd probably be cool.
So the bucks are the only team in basketball where the SG cant shoot more than 15xs a game cause it would take shots away from tbe big 3 wow.Celts can have 4 guys with 18 -24 shots a night

I don't want the Bucks to trade for Buddy Hield lol. Beasley can put up shots with the 2nd unit instead of taking away shots from Dame, Giannis, & Khris. The starting SG should basically only put up shots when they have an open look that's created in the flow of the offense or in transition and that's about it.

[kanyon]

Right now... maybe Pat or AJJ... I voted Pat just to start but maybe have AJJ slot in as the season slogs on.

Use Beasley as like a bench scorer/Vinnie Johnson microwave type guy but with a 3 pt shot-who will be a main option with the 2nd unit.

[Daver]

I think this board probsbly knows its either beasleys job already or its between jae n malik .Like MD says though not sure jae is fast enough

[-Jragon-]

F all of them... they all kinda suck... New starting 5
Dame
Giannis
AJJ
Thanos
Brook

Remember Larry Brown's Sixers? Let Dame be a 3pt shooting Iverson.. any doubles and someone dunks. Noone scores on that defense lol.. hold everyone to sub 100 and see if Dame and Giannis can score 50 each lol

[Daver]

Beas should never be a true 82 game starter either. Tbh the Bucks don't have a guy like that so then the next best option would be to find the best fit among your bench crew & Beasley is seemingly the worst fit. He's likely going to take away shots from Dame, Giannis, & Khris while providing no value on defense.

So met me understand this bucks trade for heidl he shoots 15xs a game hes takibg shots away from the big 3 beasley the same 15 shots a game big fu... deal .Marjon shoots 15xs a game that woukd probably be cool.
So the bucks are the only team in basketball where the SG cant shoot more than 15xs a game cause it would take shots away from tbe big 3 wow.Celts can have 4 guys with 18 -24 shots a night

I don't want the Bucks to trade for Buddy Hield lol. Beasley can put up shots with the 2nd unit instead of taking away shots from Dame, Giannis, & Khris. The starting SG should basically only put up shots when they have an open look that's created in the flow of the offense or in transition and that's about it.

Then jae please cause that fits him to a tee.He will probablt never shoot more than 10 to 12xs a game

[-Jragon-]

F all of them... they all kinda suck... New starting 5
Dame
Giannis
AJJ
Thanos
Brook

Remember Larry Brown's Sixers? Let Dame be a 3pt shooting Iverson.. any doubles and someone dunks. Noone scores on that defense lol.. hold everyone to sub 100 and see if Dame and Giannis can score 50 each lol

Giannis will never leave if he starts with his brother hahahahahaha....

if that's too aggressive, start Bobby at the 4.. 2nd unit Beasely and Khris get 100% of the shots lmao

[MVP2110]

So met me understand this bucks trade for heidl he shoots 15xs a game hes takibg shots away from the big 3 beasley the same 15 shots a game big fu... deal .Marjon shoots 15xs a game that woukd probably be cool.
So the bucks are the only team in basketball where the SG cant shoot more than 15xs a game cause it would take shots away from tbe big 3 wow.Celts can have 4 guys with 18 -24 shots a night

I don't want the Bucks to trade for Buddy Hield lol. Beasley can put up shots with the 2nd unit instead of taking away shots from Dame, Giannis, & Khris. The starting SG should basically only put up shots when they have an open look that's created in the flow of the offense or in transition and that's about it.

Then jae please cause that fits him to a tee.He will probablt never shoot more than 10 to 12xs a game

If I trusted Jae or Khris to be quick enough to guard 1s or 2s I'd absolutely be for it, unfortunately I don't think Jae or Khris could handle that defensively. Maybe against specific matchups but not against most teams

[-Jragon-]

F all of them... they all kinda suck... New starting 5
Dame
Giannis
AJJ
Thanos
Brook

Remember Larry Brown's Sixers? Let Dame be a 3pt shooting Iverson.. any doubles and someone dunks. Noone scores on that defense lol.. hold everyone to sub 100 and see if Dame and Giannis can score 50 each lol

oh yeah, and every miss is followed up by a rebound/putback... the more I imagine it the less delusional I convince myself that I am

[skbucks1985]

I hadn't even considered Jae as an option to start TBH

I don't think he's a legitimate option to be a full-time starter. I do think he could play major closing minute lineups, especially in the playoffs.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

I don’t think MarJon’s theoretical shooting outweighs the other stuff that Dre is better than him at. I think with Dre the infusion of freakish explosiveness on both ends + smart/quick decision making into that lineup would work really well off Dame/Khris/Giannis. I don’t think the shooting is such a problem that it’d make him non viable in those lineups.

yep... marjon making an extra 3 every 10 shots wont outwiegh all the benefits ajj would give us in literally every other aspect.

ajj will keep the ball moving and defend and get out in transition. i also think he can energize the crowd in ways that only dame and giannis can beat

ajj for me hands down if we want pat off the bench

[LUKE23]

I love what I have seen from AJJ so far, but I think people are glossing over just how much pairing him with GA could mess up our spacing. If you have AJJ starting, it's going to be automatic sag help onto Dame or GA with his defender. Now, AJJ is good moving off ball and maybe they get him in some cut action but I just think it will throw a wrench in the offense more than people think. To me, AJJ, Beasley, Portis is a perfect bench trio to come in for Midds/Marjon/GA, AJJ with two guys who hoist shots and can hit the 3. I am assuming GA and Lillard will be somewhat staggered.

[Daver]

I don't want the Bucks to trade for Buddy Hield lol. Beasley can put up shots with the 2nd unit instead of taking away shots from Dame, Giannis, & Khris. The starting SG should basically only put up shots when they have an open look that's created in the flow of the offense or in transition and that's about it.

Jae looked quick last night in fact looks like he got some speed back that wasnt there last year.I eould kerp kris at 3 n put jae at 2 if beasley doesnt work.I really feel AG wants that guy that can even space the floor more thsn it already will be.Beasley brings that no one knows how beasley will be in that starting 5 when it comes to shooting but i can almost guarentee you AD wants guys in that starting 5 who can all shoot JMO



Then jae please cause that fits him to a tee.He will probablt never shoot more than 10 to 12xs a game

If I trusted Jae or Khris to be quick enough to guard 1s or 2s I'd absolutely be for it, unfortunately I don't think Jae or Khris could handle that defensively. Maybe against specific matchups but not against most teams

Jae looked quick last night in fact looks like he got some speed back that wasnt there last year.I eould kerp kris at 3 n put jae at 2 if beasley doesnt work.I really feel AG wants that guy that can even space the floor more thsn it already will be.Beasley brings that no one knows how beasley will be in that starting 5 when it comes to shooting but i can almost guarentee you AD wants guys in that starting 5 who can all shoot JMO

[Daver]

I love what I have seen from AJJ so far, but I think people are glossing over just how much pairing him with GA could mess up our spacing. If you have AJJ starting, it's going to be automatic sag help onto Dame or GA with his defender. Now, AJJ is good moving off ball and maybe they get him in some cut action but I just think it will throw a wrench in the offense more than people think. To me, AJJ, Beasley, Portis is a perfect bench trio to come in for Midds/Marjon/GA, AJJ with two guys who hoist shots and can hit the 3. I am assuming GA and Lillard will be somewhat staggered.

Um marjon isnt any better of a shooter and they will sag off him as much as AJJ which as you say will affect the spacing.Thats ehy its either Pat or beasley.Ypu cant sag off either one which is what AG wants

[DutchManDanFan]

Nothing more clear than AJ Green at the SG position. We need long archers to destroy the Giannis wall. Low usage, great character, elite 3p shooter, good size athleticism... good effort, he is absolutely fine letting fly 6-7 3p attempts per game. Green is a huge anti wall tool. Beasley forces things too much, so I think ideally Green is happy with his small role 3p catch&shoot.

Pay attention to details ... He doesn't just make 3Ps he hits "nothing but net". He is an elite 3p shooter and I love players being elite at anything.

Another detail is that defense is not that much needed at the SG position. Which SGs do our rivals have? Derrick White & Tyler Herro, aren't any physical monsters who can destroy you with their speed. So the offense , the 3p Shooting is more important for our team in my expertise opinion.

I'm a little worried now, cause I had the same logic as Fotis...

Best shooter from 3. But it doesn't matter much if Griffin does the same as Bud with 2 of the big 3 on court most of the time.

[LUKE23]

Um marjon isnt any better of a shooter and they will sag off him as much as AJJ which as you say will affect the spacing.Thats ehy its either Pat or beasley.Ypu cant sag off either one which is what AG wants

Marjon hit .331 from 3 on 101 attempts last year. If you figure second year improvement and likely more open shots than he saw last year, I don't see any reason he can't be .370ish from 3 this year. AJJ currently doesn't have much hope whatsoever of being a reliable floor spacer.

Trust me, I get Marjon has a lot of development to do, but I do think he has a good shot of being respectable from this year. I just can't say the same about AJJ.

[Ron Swanson]

Beasley ain't my first choice but way too many people are concerned about this non-existent problem of him "taking away shots from Dame/Giannis/Khris". He's basically a perfect fit offensively in the starting-5. Concerns are entirely and rightfully surrounding his defense, and how much theoretical improvement he can have there.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Um marjon isnt any better of a shooter and they will sag off him as much as AJJ which as you say will affect the spacing.Thats ehy its either Pat or beasley.Ypu cant sag off either one which is what AG wants

Marjon hit .331 from 3 on 101 attempts last year. If you figure second year improvement and likely more open shots than he saw last year, I don't see any reason he can't be .370ish from 3 this year. AJJ currently doesn't have much hope whatsoever of being a reliable floor spacer.

Trust me, I get Marjon has a lot of development to do, but I do think he has a good shot of being respectable from this year. I just can't say the same about AJJ.

the x factor for me isnt shooting percentages its whether a guy is good or not. i think much of the board is in complete denial about just how bad marjon has been in his oppurtunities for us. ive looked for literally ANY sign of being ready to start and i havent even seen an nba player yet. sure the tools are there in the thon/yi kind of way but in actual game action he just shows no signs that he can get to his spots, or knock down shots, or even integrate into a team concept. watching him out there is just yikes on so many levels

i say its ajj or if we want to prioritize shooting then its beasley or even green. thats assuming pat keeps his role as the bench brigade commander. based on sheer obvious fit as top sg on the roster its clearly pat tho