2023-24 PRESEASON, Multi-Game Thread – Next: 7:30PM, Tues, Oct, 17 vs Knicks

[bucknersrevenge]

Stevens and Brissett ain’t making the cut. Joe wants guys that can shoot, unless you’re 7ft

Got a link to where Joe said that? He sure gave Rob, Griffin and Smart lots of mins last season..none of them were very good shooters or 7-footers..

Both of our bigs (al, KP) are shooters..our top 6 guys can all shoot. So it's perfectly fine if we have a guy in the 8 or 9 man rotation who's not a shooter...because they'll be on the floor with 4 shooters.

I don't think Brad would've added all these guys to the team who are under 7 feet and questionable shooters (Banton, stevens, brissett, walsh, gabriel) if there was no chance Joe was gonna play any of them.

Got a link where Joe said that???? Hahaha
Get real. Those guys won’t get a lick of playing time anyways. One of brissett or lamar would get cut. and don’t be too salty.

I mean Stevens deal isn't guaranteed, right? So it would have to be him if it happens. I think Brissett's deal IS guaranteed.

[return2glory]

Good win.

All the starters were solid. Nice bounce back game for Hauser.

Pritchard played well. So did Svi and Queta.

Gabriel was solid in short minutes.

People need to chill with there comments about Stevens. He played well in the first 2 games. He isn't here for his shooting. He serves a purpose on this team. He is a defensive player than brings energy and athleticism, much like Gabriel.

[return2glory]

White with 3 blocks in 17 minutes.

[DelMonte West]

White with 3 blocks in 17 minutes.

He must have been watching a lot of Bill Russell and Greg Stiemsma film during the offseason.

[steefP2]

Stevens and Brissett ain’t making the cut. Joe wants guys that can shoot, unless you’re 7ft

Got a link to where Joe said that? He sure gave Rob, Griffin and Smart lots of mins last season..none of them were very good shooters or 7-footers..

Both of our bigs (al, KP) are shooters..our top 6 guys can all shoot. So it's perfectly fine if we have a guy in the 8 or 9 man rotation who's not a shooter...because they'll be on the floor with 4 shooters.

I don't think Brad would've added all these guys to the team who are under 7 feet and questionable shooters (Banton, stevens, brissett, walsh, gabriel) if there was no chance Joe was gonna play any of them.

Got a link where Joe said that???? Hahaha
Get real. Those guys won’t get a lick of playing time anyways. One of brissett or lamar would get cut. and don’t be too salty.

Brisset we signed on the first night of free agency €{\ fully guaranteed and has proven to have an nba skill set. He’s a 100% gonna play real minutes for this team. You can think what you want but your reasoning is baseless at best.

[GoGreen]

From what I saw, PP was again a standout. Svi making Hauser look over his shoulder and Queta was interesting.

One thing that's becoming clear is our big man depth is going to be an issue. I'm not against signing someone like Blake or Biyombo.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Well, a few thoughts...

- Eddie Jurak, over at SOSH, has an enlightening comment: Porzingis has a tendency to turn the ball over when he's got the ball a lot - maybe that will be a non-issue with the Jays. Definitely be a non issue with Jaylen and Mazzulla in charge.

- The Celtics will hopefully keep the Pritchard - Hauser - Svi trio intact, as it's a lot of shooting for a very minimal amount of money.

- Queta and his slow-footed foulness may have some potential or it's just being covered by Mo Bamba.

- Meanwhile the Stevens - Blanton - Brissett trio continues to not shoot very well and are likely just niche guys to be used for
defense or rebounding or a change in tempo. They likely will see very few playoff minutes and that is probably for the best.

- I'm to the point, where they should just abolish the Pre-Season. Lack of Stars and really, who wants to see the same teams,
over and over again?

- The Celts could definitely use a backup center upgrade and I expect they will do so in the coming months.

- You never know with the weirdness that is Mazzulla, but the final roster seems to be heading for:

STARTERS

Holiday - Brown - Tatum - Horford - Porzingis

Just can't see Al deigning himself to come off the bench, so there you have it.

6 - White
7- Pritchard
8 - Hauser
9 - Kornet
10 - Svi
11 - Brissett
12 - Blanton
13 - Stevens
14 - Gabriel

Walsh, Queta, Davidson all to Maine...

[Green89]

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Stevens

[Smart2Nesmith43]

He's been pretty close with all the shots I've seen. Let's not overreact to a couple of preseason games where he's only taken a couple of shots in each game and still adjusting to playing with guys he's never played with before.

His defense has been better than anyone on our team during the preseason, outside of our core 6 guys. Disciplined, doesn't reach in for silly fouls. Able to make some heads up plays to switch over on help defense to cover an open man out on the perimeter. Locks up his man..

Bro has an excuse for every scrub that puts on green lol

He’s the ultimate hype machine for scrubs haha. Don’t let him start on Kornet lol.

Personally I prefer that to "fans" who only post to put down the players and/or coach of the team they allegedly support and enjoy watching.

[steefP2]

Disappointing showing from Stevens; struggling to think of another player in recent memory who offers so little on offense. Brisset’s finishing struggles continue but he has much better instincts and hands. Short stint but encouraging for Wenyen I thought. Like that’s he’s a talker on defense.

Svi does just enough things outside of hitting shots that he should stick regardless. Pritchard continues to impress; we’ll see on the finishing but he’s actually capable of getting into the paint.

Queta I’ll reserve opinion on bht he’s miles better than Kabengele ever was.

[Celts17Pride]

Kornet needs to get with the program and understand his role. Kornet deserves the first crack as the 3rd big but if he continues to play soft and grab 1 rebound in 15 minutes like last night then others are going to pass him by for playing time.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

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[Homerclease]

Brissett and Stevens are basically Semi 2.0. 4 on 5 on offense. Not sure they are really even rotation worthy at this juncture. I’d rather see the Celtics scheme defensively around Svi and Hauser at the backup wings at this point. Great showing from Queta in very limited minutes. Does his job as a roll man and garbage man on offense and even slipped in a nice pass out of the high post. I just don’t see what the coaching staff sees in Kornet. The team gets clobbered every time he’s out on the floor. He’s an absolute zero defensively, can’t rebound at all and his screening isn’t really all that much to write home about either.

Right now id start Jrue and White and bring Al off the bench along with Hauser, Svi, PP and Banton. Kornet is going to play out of necessity but the hope is Queta can overtake him in time. Walsh needs to be in Maine along with JD

[Hal14]

Banton went back to being a human shrug in preseason game #3. I assume he has a fan or two in the front office, but I think he's the one vulnerable to turning into Blake Griffin if Blake says he wants back in anytime between now and spring.

idk man. Let's not pretend Blake is some superstar here. He was pretty much washed last season and now this season he's another year older so even more likely to be washed.

We already have 5 bigs (al, KP, kornet, Queta, Gabriel). If we replaced Banton with Griffin, that'd probably be too many bigs and not enough guys who can handle the ball.

Guys (like Banton) who are 6'9", can handle the ball, run the point, run PnR, get downhill, pressure the rim, see the floor while also holding their own own D and defending multiple positions don't grow on trees - and he's still only 23 yrs old.

Seems like revisionist history to say Blake is washed. I’m fine if they want to develop young guys and don’t think he would have the minutes or he wants to retire or play out west or whatever. But he was a solid deeper bench guy last year.

I meant moreso like Blake's conditioning. Seemed like last season he couldn't handle playing in very many games. We'd sometimes have to give him like 3 or 4 games off after he played in a game - even if we were down 1 or 2 bigs so we could have used him. And sometimes he would look pretty winded after only being in the game for like 3 or 4 mins. And sometimes struggled getting up and down the floor in a fast paced game - or being able to slide his feet quick enough to stay in front of guys defensively. That was all last season. So he might have even less gas left in the tank this season.

Don't get me wrong. He did some good things for us on the court last season. And obviously was good for vibes, and morale. But I'm fine if we stick with guys like Gabriel and Queta who have fresher legs, can probably handle more of a workload and still have some upside.

[Parliament10]

idk man. Let's not pretend Blake is some superstar here. He was pretty much washed last season and now this season he's another year older so even more likely to be washed.

We already have 5 bigs (al, KP, kornet, Queta, Gabriel). If we replaced Banton with Griffin, that'd probably be too many bigs and not enough guys who can handle the ball.

Guys (like Banton) who are 6'9", can handle the ball, run the point, run PnR, get downhill, pressure the rim, see the floor while also holding their own own D and defending multiple positions don't grow on trees - and he's still only 23 yrs old.

Seems like revisionist history to say Blake is washed. I’m fine if they want to develop young guys and don’t think he would have the minutes or he wants to retire or play out west or whatever. But he was a solid deeper bench guy last year.

I meant moreso like Blake's conditioning. Seemed like last season he couldn't handle playing in very many games. We'd sometimes have to give him like 2 or 3 games off after he played in a game - even if we were down 1 or 2 bigs so we could have used him. And sometimes he would look pretty winded after only being in the game for like 3 or 4 mins. And sometimes struggled getting up and down the floor in a fast paced game - or being able to slide his feet quick enough to stay in front of guys defensively. That was all last season. So he might have even less gas left in the tank this season.

Don't get me wrong. He did some good things for us on the court last season. And obviously was good for vibes, and morale. But I'm fine if we stick with guys like Gabriel and Queta who have fresher legs, can probably handle more of a workload and still have some upside.

Where is Blake Griffin? Haven't heard heard anything in a bit, from his Camp.
We can always pick him up, later.

[playa-hater]

Brissett and Stevens are basically Semi 2.0. 4 on 5 on offense. Not sure they are really even rotation worthy at this juncture. I’d rather see the Celtics scheme defensively around Svi and Hauser at the backup wings at this point. Great showing from Queta in very limited minutes. Does his job as a roll man and garbage man on offense and even slipped in a nice pass out of the high post. I just don’t see what the coaching staff sees in Kornet. The team gets clobbered every time he’s out on the floor. He’s an absolute zero defensively, can’t rebound at all and his screening isn’t really all that much to write home about either.

Right now id start Jrue and White and bring Al off the bench along with Hauser, Svi, PP and Banton. Kornet is going to play out of necessity but the hope is Queta can overtake him in time. Walsh needs to be in Maine along with JD

I don't think it's Ability for Kornet but familiarity. Knowing the plays and/or ball movement with the others and where the others may want the ball etc. He is a veteran compared to Queta and WG..But at some point coaches need to realize his limitations. Of all the things that bother me is when Kornet is near the rim on defense and he can't even get off his feet fast enough to attempt a blocked shot. that and he doesn't seem to rebound well for someone who has good size.

[31to6]

I think Svi is clearly the backup 2. Pritchard is the 1, Hauser the 3. Brissett and Stevens battle for the backup 4 slot, whoever starts making corner 3s gets it. Luke is the backup 5. Brad will mix them in with some of the top 6 anyways, so each of these guys (except maybe Pritchard, King of the Usage) will look better in that context. Especially Kornet and Brissi/Stevens -- give them a chance to be out there with JT and DW or Jrue before writing them off because they can probably look better in a more limited role.

[playa-hater]

Can someone explain to me how does Boston play 3 games in 4 nights then get a who week off?

[Hal14]

I think Svi is clearly the backup 2. Pritchard is the 1, Hauser the 3. Brissett and Stevens battle for the backup 4 slot, whoever starts making corner 3s gets it. Luke is the backup 5. Brad will mix them in with some of the top 6 anyways, so each of these guys (except maybe Pritchard, King of the Usage) will look better in that context. Especially Kornet and Brissi/Stevens -- give them a chance to be out there with JT and DW or Jrue before writing them off because they can probably look better in a more limited role.

If we just go by who Mazzulla has given the most playing time to in the preseason, it's:

1. Payton Pritchard (76 mins)
2. Sam Hauser (70 mins)
3. Dalano Banton (59 mins)
4. Oshae Brissett (57 mins)
5. Lamar Stevens (48 mins)
6. Luke Kornet (47 mins)
7. Svi Mykhailiuk (44 mins)
8. Jordan Walsh (31 mins)
9. JD Davison (25 mins)
10. Neemias Queta (21 mins)
11. Wenyen Gabriel (18 mins)
12. DJ Steward (6 mins)

*This is simply a ranking of the total number of minutes played by the guys outside of the team's established "Core 6"

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Boston-Celtics/2/Stats/2024/Totals/All/minutes/All/desc/1/Preseason

This ^ seems to be the pecking order, at the moment. Things could certainly change by the time we play our next game in 5 days..

[Larry_Russell]

Svi scored more points in 26 fewer minutes than Hauser. Damn.