Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Crowder Out 8 Weeks

[ShootingtheJ]

This is my second 'damn' moment in two threads. Firstly, how many options we have for Graysons spot that are actual NBA players and now remembering our expectations for Nwora last season.

Nwora played well for the Pacers last year and will be in their rotation again. He doesn't fit on this team, but a red flag for Bud that Carlyle got far more or of him than Bud could.

Aren't you really big into on/off numbers? Nwora's on/off numbers in Indiana were just as bad as they were in Milwaukee. More minutes on a worse team doesn't equate to them getting more out of him

On/off numbers were scewed by Haliburton's absence. Great shooting numbers and 2.3 apg in limited minutes shows improved performance.

[MVP2110]

Nwora played well for the Pacers last year and will be in their rotation again. He doesn't fit on this team, but a red flag for Bud that Carlyle got far more or of him than Bud could.

Aren't you really big into on/off numbers? Nwora's on/off numbers in Indiana were just as bad as they were in Milwaukee. More minutes on a worse team doesn't equate to them getting more out of him

On/off numbers were scewed by Haliburton's absence. Great shooting numbers and 2.3 apg in limited minutes shows improved performance.

Even with Haliburton gone they were better with Nwora off the court than on it

[skones]

Aren't you really big into on/off numbers? Nwora's on/off numbers in Indiana were just as bad as they were in Milwaukee. More minutes on a worse team doesn't equate to them getting more out of him

On/off numbers were scewed by Haliburton's absence. Great shooting numbers and 2.3 apg in limited minutes shows improved performance.

Even with Haliburton gone they were better with Nwora off the court than on it

They were -9.9 points per 100 possessions with him on the court. Their average losing margin over Nwora's tenure was -4.3.

Let's just say his usage of on/off is wildly inconsistent. Great when it serves him, disregarded when it doesn't.

[jschligs]

I did not expect to hear arguments for Jordan Nwora today. Wasn't on my bingo card. He wasn't good here, I don't think he'll be good elsewhere either. It s a nothing burger.

[engelmartin]

I did not expect to hear arguments for Jordan Nwora today. Wasn't on my bingo card. He wasn't good here, I don't think he'll be good elsewhere either. It s a nothing burger.

Like a young Chris Copeland

[Prez]

Pacers w/ Haliburton and Nwora ON: -4.10
Pacers w/ Haliburton ON, Nwora OFF: -0.82
Pacers w/ both OFF: -2.16
Pacers w/ Nwora ON, Haliburton OFF: -13.41

Nwora is legit awful and it wasn’t just the Bucks lol.

[Matches Malone]

I did not expect to hear arguments for Jordan Nwora today. Wasn't on my bingo card. He wasn't good here, I don't think he'll be good elsewhere either. It s a nothing burger.

Like a young Chris Copeland

Is Copeland a coach on the Herd now? I think I saw him in photos during one of the Bucks training camp practices lol.

[ShootingtheJ]

Both Nwora and Mamu shot dramatically better on different teams, and we should be asking how that happened. It might be related to our dreadful playoff shooting.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Pacers w/ Haliburton and Nwora ON: -4.10
Pacers w/ Haliburton ON, Nwora OFF: -0.82
Pacers w/ both OFF: -2.16
Pacers w/ Nwora ON, Haliburton OFF: -13.41

Nwora is legit awful and it wasn’t just the Bucks lol.

we had a kid on our HS team growing up in NY who was 6'2" built well and pretty nasty easily the best athlete his size on the team but kind of an and1 style player..... and he NEVER played. i knew he couldnt run the plays well or remember our defensive schemes(we played alot of zones)....but i figured there had to be a spot for him. he was just too good in the open gyms and felt he deserved to play.

i remember finally asking our coach senior year why he never saw the court on our state ranked team he just looked at me and he just shook his head. responded there wasnt any doubt he could average 20 a game for us but if he ever put him out there the rest of us were just going to be standing around watching him do it. in his mind playing him just wasnt an option for what we were trying to accomplish.

nwora is the ultimate tank commander. its a shame really. but the quicker you see a guy with tools and can sniff out that he just "doesnt get it" the better the ballclub is gonna be.

i hate it but we got another guy like that on the roster now and it aint the guy who just won a national championship. im just as confident saying that about the current guy as i was with nwora.

[MVP2110]

Both Nwora and Mamu shot dramatically better on different teams, and we should be asking how that happened. It might be related to our dreadful playoff shooting.

You didn't say they just shot better though, you said Nwora was a better player for Indiana when he wasn't. He was still a terrible defender and a chucker and there was a reason Indiana was better when he was off the floor

[Prez]

Both Nwora and Mamu shot dramatically better on different teams, and we should be asking how that happened. It might be related to our dreadful playoff shooting.

I mean, it’s not that uncommon for players to be able to get into a better shooting rhythm when playing more. Which is something that wouldn’t have happened for Nwora in Milwaukee because we were actually trying to win.

The sad part for Nwora is that even with the significant uptick in shooting efficiency in Indiana, he was *still* a colossal negative impact player. He’s legitimately that bad at all the other things that go into being an impactful NBA player.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

players who arent worried about all the things that matter in winning and can just focus on scoring will of course...score better

here in milwaukee he was cursed. we asked him to make winning plays instead of just score. definitely mind **** him a bit with that request id say. here he couldnt make winning plays or score. we def werent a fit

[M-C-G]

I did not expect to hear arguments for Jordan Nwora today. Wasn't on my bingo card. He wasn't good here, I don't think he'll be good elsewhere either. It s a nothing burger.

Like a young Chris Copeland

Is Copeland a coach on the Herd now? I think I saw him in photos during one of the Bucks training camp practices lol.

Not sure if he was signed as a coach but he has definitely been around training camp


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[emunney]

Who's going to dunk on Nwora now that we traded Grayson away? Man we got finessed

[Shaffty]

Did you guys see Jae Crowder calling the lockerroom last year 'Country Club' when it came to vibes/culture??

[ShootingtheJ]

Both Nwora and Mamu shot dramatically better on different teams, and we should be asking how that happened. It might be related to our dreadful playoff shooting.

I mean, it’s not that uncommon for players to be able to get into a better shooting rhythm when playing more. Which is something that wouldn’t have happened for Nwora in Milwaukee because we were actually trying to win.

The sad part for Nwora is that even with the significant uptick in shooting efficiency in Indiana, he was *still* a colossal negative impact player. He’s legitimately that bad at all the other things that go into being an impactful NBA player.

Sure, but then explain why Mamu couldn't shoot on the Herd either, while playing there for long stints. It's deeper than just playing time. Nwora has stretches of consistent playing time in Milwaukee, but shot poorly his last 2 years. It had to be something with the way the coaches were preparing them.

[MVP2110]

Did you guys see Jae Crowder calling the lockerroom last year 'Country Club' when it came to vibes/culture??

Sure did, and in the same article Griff says the team won't practice like they are now during the season. Crowder was only hear during the season so he wouldn't have known what camp was like. I think the part where Pat, Bobby, & Giannis talk about the differences is more interesting and they make a point to talk about the differences but also say they don't want to call it better or worse, just different.

[Shaffty]

Did you guys see Jae Crowder calling the lockerroom last year 'Country Club' when it came to vibes/culture??

Sure did, and in the same article Griff says the team won't practice like they are now during the season. Crowder was only hear during the season so he wouldn't have known what camp was like. I think the part where Pat, Bobby, & Giannis talk about the differences is more interesting and they make a point to talk about the differences but also say they don't want to call it better or worse, just different.

because pat/bobby/giannis are nice guys trying to not throw their coach for years under the bus. Jae has no such allegiances

[skones]

Both Nwora and Mamu shot dramatically better on different teams, and we should be asking how that happened. It might be related to our dreadful playoff shooting.

I mean, it’s not that uncommon for players to be able to get into a better shooting rhythm when playing more. Which is something that wouldn’t have happened for Nwora in Milwaukee because we were actually trying to win.

The sad part for Nwora is that even with the significant uptick in shooting efficiency in Indiana, he was *still* a colossal negative impact player. He’s legitimately that bad at all the other things that go into being an impactful NBA player.

Sure, but then explain why Mamu couldn't shoot on the Herd either, while playing there for long stints. It's deeper than just playing time. Nwora has stretches of consistent playing time in Milwaukee, but shot poorly his last 2 years. It had to be something with the way the coaches were preparing them.

What are you talking about? Mamu shot 51.6% from the field and 40% from three while with the Herd in the G-League.

[MVP2110]

Did you guys see Jae Crowder calling the lockerroom last year 'Country Club' when it came to vibes/culture??

Sure did, and in the same article Griff says the team won't practice like they are now during the season. Crowder was only hear during the season so he wouldn't have known what camp was like. I think the part where Pat, Bobby, & Giannis talk about the differences is more interesting and they make a point to talk about the differences but also say they don't want to call it better or worse, just different.

because pat/bobby/giannis are nice guys trying to not throw their coach for years under the bus. Jae has no such allegiances

Jae also wasn't here during any of the previous training camps so how could he compare them? Comparing how a team practices at the end of a season vs how they practice in camp are 2 totally different things