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Re: Has another arrest warrant: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#601 » by Trey24 » Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:38 pm

So sounds like it happened Friday
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Re: Has another arrest warrant: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#602 » by Chapelchilla » Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:56 pm

I am just stunned right now. What a stupid POS. Cut time. Dang it. I hoped that for his family’s sake he was turning a corner and growing up.

Isn’t Mikes brother the director of player development or something? If so, Larry should go first thing.

Not sure that Kupchak is totally clear of this either but the fact that he chose NOT to extend Miles for big $ actually makes me think he was making fairly reasonable decisions here.

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Post#603 » by Hornet Mania » Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:45 pm

The front office probably needed to be cleaned out for a variety of reasons (nepotism cases, good old boys club, poor performance, lack of imagination) but this black eye for the organization is as good a reason as any to start making changes. The franchise will need to do something to begin giving the community the impression they are determined not to let the endless parade of off the court incidents continue.

As for Miles, unless this is somehow all a false accusation he'll surely be cut. The NBA should ensure that he doesn't land on his feet next to Lebron or whatever, especially if Miles failed to disclose the January incident to the league. Silver going light on him only to be blindsided by this is a massive embarrassment. If he lets this one ride he might as well just say '**** it, if you're not currently in jail you can play'.
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Re: Has another arrest warrant: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#604 » by Trey24 » Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:48 pm

Hornet Mania wrote:The front office probably needed to be cleaned out for a variety of reasons (nepotism cases, good old boys club, poor performance, lack of imagination) but this black eye for the organization is as good a reason as any to start making changes. The franchise will need to do something to begin giving the community the impression they are determined not to let the endless parade of off the court incidents continue.

As for Miles, unless this is somehow all a false accusation he'll surely be cut. The NBA should ensure that he doesn't land on his feet next to Lebron or whatever, especially if Miles failed to disclose the January incident to the league. Silver going light on him only to be blindsided by this is a massive embarrassment. If he lets this one ride he might as well just say '**** it, if you're not currently in jail you can play'.


Front Office can't control the actions of employees in their private lives. Same thing as any business.
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Re: Has another arrest warrant: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#605 » by fatlever » Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:11 pm

Trey24 wrote:
Hornet Mania wrote:The front office probably needed to be cleaned out for a variety of reasons (nepotism cases, good old boys club, poor performance, lack of imagination) but this black eye for the organization is as good a reason as any to start making changes. The franchise will need to do something to begin giving the community the impression they are determined not to let the endless parade of off the court incidents continue.

As for Miles, unless this is somehow all a false accusation he'll surely be cut. The NBA should ensure that he doesn't land on his feet next to Lebron or whatever, especially if Miles failed to disclose the January incident to the league. Silver going light on him only to be blindsided by this is a massive embarrassment. If he lets this one ride he might as well just say '**** it, if you're not currently in jail you can play'.


Front Office can't control the actions of employees in their private lives. Same thing as any business.


in a one-time vacuum, true, but the Hornets had chance after chance to end their ties with Miles and chose to keep him each time.
the hornets have clearly been light on character in their player evaluations in the Mitch era. too many character, off court related incidents to only be a series of coincidences. the hornets chose youth and potential at the expense of character and experience and this is a symptom of those decisions.
mitch and the front office shouldn't get a pass for all the off-court issues that have plagued this team the past 3 years.
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Re: Has another arrest warrant: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#606 » by Trey24 » Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:38 pm

fatlever wrote:
Trey24 wrote:
Hornet Mania wrote:The front office probably needed to be cleaned out for a variety of reasons (nepotism cases, good old boys club, poor performance, lack of imagination) but this black eye for the organization is as good a reason as any to start making changes. The franchise will need to do something to begin giving the community the impression they are determined not to let the endless parade of off the court incidents continue.

As for Miles, unless this is somehow all a false accusation he'll surely be cut. The NBA should ensure that he doesn't land on his feet next to Lebron or whatever, especially if Miles failed to disclose the January incident to the league. Silver going light on him only to be blindsided by this is a massive embarrassment. If he lets this one ride he might as well just say '**** it, if you're not currently in jail you can play'.


Front Office can't control the actions of employees in their private lives. Same thing as any business.


in a one-time vacuum, true, but the Hornets had chance after chance to end their ties with Miles and chose to keep him each time.
the hornets have clearly been light on character in their player evaluations in the Mitch era. too many character, off court related incidents to only be a series of coincidences. the hornets chose youth and potential at the expense of character and experience and this is a symptom of those decisions.
mitch and the front office shouldn't get a pass for all the off-court issues that have plagued this team the past 3 years.



You are drafting still developing adults that change when they get money and fame. Hard to project what they can become both on and off the court.
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Re: Has another arrest warrant: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#607 » by Chapelchilla » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:19 pm

I agree that it is hard to predict when drafting 19 year olds but it does appear we discount known issues (Bouknight) and do not keep a close watch on / empathize good behavior post draft.
Larry Jordan is VP of player development and that falls on him.
We also probably cheaped out on the pre-draft detective work like most everything else.
Hopefully this is the wake up call that finally gets thru.
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Re: Has another arrest warrant: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#608 » by amcoolio » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:27 pm

Trey24 wrote:
fatlever wrote:
Trey24 wrote:
Front Office can't control the actions of employees in their private lives. Same thing as any business.


in a one-time vacuum, true, but the Hornets had chance after chance to end their ties with Miles and chose to keep him each time.
the hornets have clearly been light on character in their player evaluations in the Mitch era. too many character, off court related incidents to only be a series of coincidences. the hornets chose youth and potential at the expense of character and experience and this is a symptom of those decisions.
mitch and the front office shouldn't get a pass for all the off-court issues that have plagued this team the past 3 years.



You are drafting still developing adults that change when they get money and fame. Hard to project what they can become both on and off the court.


Literally no other team has these problems. Houston corrected it when it started to get out of hand and, despite being worse than the Hornets the last three years, are a much better team than us and are set up for the future better than us. They had the offseason we should have had.

Kai, Bouknight, Miles… it just screams that we don’t hold anyone accountable and are a beta weak organization. The infrastructure is so incredibly poor compared to other small market teams
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Re: Has another arrest warrant: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#609 » by NCHeels2008 » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:30 pm

amcoolio wrote:
Trey24 wrote:
fatlever wrote:
in a one-time vacuum, true, but the Hornets had chance after chance to end their ties with Miles and chose to keep him each time.
the hornets have clearly been light on character in their player evaluations in the Mitch era. too many character, off court related incidents to only be a series of coincidences. the hornets chose youth and potential at the expense of character and experience and this is a symptom of those decisions.
mitch and the front office shouldn't get a pass for all the off-court issues that have plagued this team the past 3 years.



You are drafting still developing adults that change when they get money and fame. Hard to project what they can become both on and off the court.


Literally no other team has these problems. Houston corrected it when it started to get out of hand and, despite being worse than the Hornets the last three years, are a much better team than us and are set up for the future better than us. They had the offseason we should have had.

Kai, Bouknight, Miles… it just screams that we don’t hold anyone accountable and are a beta weak organization. The infrastructure is so incredibly poor compared to other small market teams


I see we are gonna pretend Brandon Miller is coming in with no history
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Re: Has another arrest warrant: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#610 » by amcoolio » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:34 pm

I’m not pretending, I forgot. But it’s another good example of how weak this organization is. Miller have more ideal tools, but we desperately needed a Scoot type leader to change the culture. Miller is not a leader. We still have no leaders on this **** team
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Post#611 » by yosemiteben » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:35 pm

amcoolio wrote:Kai, Bouknight, Miles… it just screams that we don’t hold anyone accountable and are a beta weak organization. The infrastructure is so incredibly poor compared to other small market teams

We literally just cut Kai. We don't even know what we're going to do with Miles.
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Post#612 » by Braggins » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:37 pm

I think we are at the point where you can make a good argument that Mitch has had a worse tenure as GM than Cho did.

If you directly compare the teams they had under Cho to the teams they had under Mitch, the teams they had under Mitch tended to have more talent, but relative to the rest of the league they have been worse under Mitch than they were under Cho (league is just a lot better now). Mitch's tenure is likely to end with 0 playoff appearances despite having multiple years with the play-in tournament making it possible to sneak in as a 10 seed.
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Re: Has another arrest warrant: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#613 » by wilson115 » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:38 pm

There was another incident in March. The Hornets didn't know about a pending warrant before signing him in July.

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/hornets-miles-bridges-faces-more-domestic-allegations-clouding-his-nba-future
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Re: Has another arrest warrant: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#614 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:51 pm

Surely this is grounds to be able to sack him and void his contract with no further pay or cap loss.

They surely must have some character/behaviour clause in his contract after what went down last year.
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Post#615 » by Hornet Mania » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:54 pm

Trey24 wrote:
Hornet Mania wrote:The front office probably needed to be cleaned out for a variety of reasons (nepotism cases, good old boys club, poor performance, lack of imagination) but this black eye for the organization is as good a reason as any to start making changes. The franchise will need to do something to begin giving the community the impression they are determined not to let the endless parade of off the court incidents continue.

As for Miles, unless this is somehow all a false accusation he'll surely be cut. The NBA should ensure that he doesn't land on his feet next to Lebron or whatever, especially if Miles failed to disclose the January incident to the league. Silver going light on him only to be blindsided by this is a massive embarrassment. If he lets this one ride he might as well just say '**** it, if you're not currently in jail you can play'.


Front Office can't control the actions of employees in their private lives. Same thing as any business.


I don't totally disagree with you on that point, so I probably should have been more clear in my post. The front office needed changing, so these incidents, especially the most recent one with Miles, provides the necessary pretext to make that move. It might not be fair to Mitch and Co., but when a string of off the court incidents happens teams, or even companies generally, tend to want to be seen doing something to show they care and are changing the culture. Even if it was sort of outside their control.

I give the front office some blame here, not total, but some. Mostly I just think that change is coming and we might as well not let a crisis go to waste. Making some heads roll will grab everyone's attention and hammer home that from this point forward things will have to be different.
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Re: Has another arrest warrant: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#616 » by LofJ » Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:00 pm

amcoolio wrote:I’m not pretending, I forgot. But it’s another good example of how weak this organization is. Miller have more ideal tools, but we desperately needed a Scoot type leader to change the culture. Miller is not a leader. We still have no leaders on this **** team


Scoot marketed himself as a leader, but that doesn't mean he actually has leadership qualities.

We don't know what he or Miller will ultimately become.

That said your point about this team and organization needing better leadership is spot on.
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Post#617 » by SWedd523 » Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:09 pm

I don't think Scoot was gonna come in here as a rookie and have anyone give a **** what he has to say.
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Post#618 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:11 pm

SWedd523 wrote:I don't think Scoot was gonna come in here as a rookie and have anyone give a **** what he has to say.


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Re: Has another arrest warrant: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#619 » by JDR720 » Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:16 am

Drafting Miller right after he was involved (knowingly or not) in someone being murdered is just another example of the team not caring about off-court issues it's players have.

Miles being a literal criminal.
Melo reckless driving like an idiot right in front of the arena.
Bouknight being an idiot multiple times, from passing out drunk in his car to fighting at UConn games.


We already have a team full of idiots and wannabe thugs. Hopefully Miller learned his lesson and won't become one himself.

No other team has 1/10th of these issues. We need to clean the FO out, it's embarrassing at this point. We're just waiting for the next **** to hit the fan.
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Post#620 » by Rich4114 » Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:19 am

JDR720 wrote:Drafting Miller right after he was involved (knowingly or not) in someone being murdered is just another example of the team not caring about off-court issues it's players have.

Miles being a literal criminal.
Melo reckless driving like an idiot right in front of the arena.
Bouknight being an idiot multiple times, from passing out drunk in his car to fighting at UConn games.

We already have a team full of idiots and wannabe thugs. Hopefully Miller learned his lesson and won't become one himself.

No other team has 1/10th of these issues. We need to clean the FO out, it's embarrassing at this point. We're just waiting for the next **** to hit the fan.


Which is why this team is short on tough nose veterans to keep the young guys in check. Need a CP3 or another strong voice in that locker room who can also contribute on the court in a meaningful way.

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