Stotts Steps Down

LittleRooster · Post #41 » by **LittleRooster** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:20 pm

Not good

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RogerMurdock · Post #42 » by **RogerMurdock** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:21 pm

Instantly jumping to "he must have had a falling out with Griffin" is silly. Stotts is 65 and was out of coaching for two years. The most likely explanations are a) change of heart, b) health issue, or c) family issue. How often do we see assistant coaches leaving a team just because of some butting heads with the head coach in the preseason? Never?

EDIT: WELL MAYBE I'M WRONG.

EDIT 2: I still don't really care. If there was a butting of heads or whatever, then good for Stotts removing himself from the situation. Better to have everyone on the coaching staff on the same page than have friction all season. Everyone breathe, it will be fine.

MoreTrife · Post #43 » by **MoreTrife** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:21 pm

FrieAaron wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:I did see a point Tuesday when stotts seemed upset and pulled a player aside but didn't seem unusual

Pretty sure it was Giannis but I didn't think he seemed upset at all

Yes Giannis. Saw it just before break. I thought "ohh that was aggressive." Grabbed him heading into TO. But if Giannis brought the ax down...yeesh.

LittleRooster · Post #44 » by **LittleRooster** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:22 pm

https://x.com/tciiiesq/status/1715008955930284374?s=46&t=mF3vUjCRshVtoscwosmE7Q

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SirChurros · Post #45 » by **SirChurros** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:22 pm

Yeah, not good.

I’m guessing it’s either health (I really hope not) or some sort of dysfunction. You don’t coach in the NBA, in some capacity, on and off for roughly 30 years and forget what the grind is like.

MVP2110 · Post #46 » by **MVP2110** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:26 pm

LittleRooster wrote:https://x.com/tciiiesq/status/1715008955930284374?s=46&t=mF3vUjCRshVtoscwosmE7Q

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If this is true that's a disaster of a start for Griff. I've really wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt but between a few different things he's said and now this it's been a terrible start and I'm losing faith fast

ABucksFan · Post #47 » by **ABucksFan** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:26 pm

Barring health/personal reasons. How bad could things be for a seasoned coach like Stotts to leave before even 1 regular season game is played just a week before it begins.

PG Graveyard · Post #48 » by **PG Graveyard** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:26 pm

We are no longer the no drama Bucks.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #49 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:27 pm

RogerMurdock wrote:Instantly jumping to "he must have had a falling out with Griffin" is silly. Stotts is 65 and was out of coaching for two years. The most likely explanations are a) change of heart, b) health issue, or c) family issue. How often do we see assistant coaches leaving a team just because of some butting heads with the head coach in the preseason? Never?

How often do you see the lead assistant quit? Rarely and it usually it is cause of disagreements like with the Nets a few years ago.

Like i could see it being b/c but hoping its not for Stotts own good, but A seems far fetched. He has been in the NBA his whole life and knows what the grind is like. The pressure is way less than his last few years with Portland where he was the lead guy.

pifhluk23 · Post #50 » by **pifhluk23** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:27 pm

Huge red flag if it's butting heads issue which so far seems to be the case. Time to dig up my posts about how I didn't want to hire AG and thought it was GM Giannis f**** up yet again.

PG Graveyard · Post #51 » by **PG Graveyard** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:27 pm

LittleRooster wrote:https://x.com/tciiiesq/status/1715008955930284374?s=46&t=mF3vUjCRshVtoscwosmE7Q

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Does this guy know anything?

SirChurros · Post #52 » by **SirChurros** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:28 pm

Fire Griff. Hire Stotts.

MoreTrife · Post #53 » by **MoreTrife** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:28 pm

LittleRooster wrote:https://x.com/tciiiesq/status/1715008955930284374?s=46&t=mF3vUjCRshVtoscwosmE7Q

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PhD in "leadership".

Do not like Griffin.

Sam Elliott 1883 "only room for one voice of I'll kill you"

RogerMurdock · Post #54 » by **RogerMurdock** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:29 pm

ABucksFan wrote:Barring health/personal reasons. How bad could things be for a seasoned coach like Stotts to leave before even 1 regular season game is played just a week before it begins.

It could simply have been a wide gap in philosophy (offense, defense, who knows) that Stotts or both men just realized wasn't going to work. Sometimes things happen - I left a job after four months because I found out the way things worked were very different than what I was told/had envisioned during the interview process. Better to cut my losses than let any possible conflict grow.

JimmyTheKid · Post #55 » by **JimmyTheKid** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:30 pm

jschligs wrote:Hmmm....I wonder why? Did he just not want to coach after trying it out again?

Must've been Giannis' "low BBIQ." Couldn't work with him.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #56 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:30 pm

Like it obviously could turn out find and might be better long-term to have everyone on the same page, but this does not seem like great leadership skills by the doctor to lose your second in command because you couldn't bring him into your vision for the team.

FrieAaron · Post #57 » by **FrieAaron** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:32 pm

RogerMurdock wrote:
ABucksFan wrote:Barring health/personal reasons. How bad could things be for a seasoned coach like Stotts to leave before even 1 regular season game is played just a week before it begins.

It could simply have been a wide gap in philosophy (offense, defense, who knows) that Stotts or both men just realized wasn't going to work. Sometimes things happen - I left a job after four months because I found out the way things worked were very different than what I was told/had envisioned during the interview process. Better to cut my losses than let any possible conflict grow.

I get people hoping for the best but this is very fast to discover that it's jut not going to work out. They couldn't even make it to a single regular season game together?

MikeIsGood · Post #58 » by **MikeIsGood** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:33 pm

Real bad vibes for AG. Really want to be wrong about it - like, I can envision friction so bad that you should part ways and it not being a bad omen, but it's not easy to do.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #59 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:34 pm

RogerMurdock wrote:
ABucksFan wrote:Barring health/personal reasons. How bad could things be for a seasoned coach like Stotts to leave before even 1 regular season game is played just a week before it begins.

It could simply have been a wide gap in philosophy (offense, defense, who knows) that Stotts or both men just realized wasn't going to work. Sometimes things happen - I left a job after four months because I found out the way things worked were very different than what I was told/had envisioned during the interview process. Better to cut my losses than let any possible conflict grow.

Yeah, I'm not saying this is disastrous, but doesn't that say a lot about management you interviewed with and their hiring process? Like this was AGs first big as HC and he lost his lead assistant after a couple months. Better to cut your losses now, but it was definitely a loss and a failure in building his staff.

ABucksFan · Post #60 » by **ABucksFan** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:35 pm

RogerMurdock wrote:
ABucksFan wrote:Barring health/personal reasons. How bad could things be for a seasoned coach like Stotts to leave before even 1 regular season game is played just a week before it begins.

It could simply have been a wide gap in philosophy (offense, defense, who knows) that Stotts or both men just realized wasn't going to work. Sometimes things happen - I left a job after four months because I found out the way things worked were very different than what I was told/had envisioned during the interview process. Better to cut my losses than let any possible conflict grow.

Agree it happens. It's also much easier for a "seasoned/tenured" person to say nope than someone "new" to coaching or first time gig to suck it up and continue the grind.

Definitely a weird situation and regardless sucks for us.