69-73 Wes Unseld added to the 2015-19 Warriors

prolific passer · Post #1 » by **prolific passer** » Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:35 am

How do they do? Those outlet passes for quick 3s by Steph and Klay seem interesting imo.

Colbinii · Post #2 » by **Colbinii** » Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:35 am

They get better?

Post #3 » by **tsherkin** » Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:19 am

No range, no shot blocking, ass at the foul line... seems like not a great player to add to that particular team. He could find utility in other places, but I don't think Golden State is a spot where he gets maximized.

Great outlet passer and rebounder, but super not worthwhile for that alone. Don't think he'd do much for their D, either.

Samurai · Post #4 » by **Samurai** » Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:27 pm

Unseld was also a terrific screen setter. Not in terms of a P&R (definitely not a finisher as the roller; more like a bulldozer than roller!) but just in terms of setting solid screens for Curry and Klay to run their defenders into would be a weapon. Unseld certainly wouldn't be the best choice to add to the Dubs (I think I'd go with a 'healthy Walton' - yes I know those two words don't go together - or Russell) but Unseld could still be of value.

70sFan · Post #5 » by **70sFan** » Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:43 pm

tsherkin wrote:No range, no shot blocking, ass at the foul line... seems like not a great player to add to that particular team. He could find utility in other places, but I don't think Golden State is a spot where he gets maximized.

Great outlet passer and rebounder, but super not worthwhile for that alone. Don't think he'd do much for their D, either.

Unseld wasn't just a great outlet passer, he was a great passer period and very smart player all-around. I think his screen setting and high post offense would bring also a lot of value for the Warriors offense.

The main problem would be spacing, but Unseld wasn't a worse shooter than Zaza or Bogut. I think he'd improve Warriors significantly.

Laimbeer · Post #6 » by **Laimbeer** » Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:19 pm

He'd get run off the floor on defense.

prolific passer · Post #7 » by **prolific passer** » Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:33 pm

Unseld during his Baltimore Bullets days was pretty nice all around...at least offensively. 14 17 nearly 4apg on almost 50% shooting.

Post #8 » by **tsherkin** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:48 am

70sFan wrote:Unseld wasn't just a great outlet passer, he was a great passer period and very smart player all-around. I think his screen setting and high post offense would bring also a lot of value for the Warriors offense.

The main problem would be spacing, but Unseld wasn't a worse shooter than Zaza or Bogut. I think he'd improve Warriors significantly.

It's worth a thought, for sure. I'll admit, I don't know enough about Wes to really dig into this one much more than a surface impression.

70sFan · Post #9 » by **70sFan** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:53 am

Laimbeer wrote:He'd get run off the floor on defense.

Compared to old Bogut and Pachulia?

OhayoKD · Post #10 » by **OhayoKD** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:00 am

70sFan wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:He'd get run off the floor on defense.

Compared to old Bogut and Pachulia?

Bogut was a very good defender

70sFan · Post #11 » by **70sFan** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:53 am

OhayoKD wrote:
70sFan wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:He'd get run off the floor on defense.

Compared to old Bogut and Pachulia?

Bogut was a very good defender

Yeah, while being way slower laterally than Unseld. My point stands.

giberish · Post #12 » by **giberish** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:23 am

He's a rich man's Bogut, but I don't know how much difference that makes.

In 2015 and 2017 they dominated the regular season and won the title without a particularly close series. So getting better means what?
In 2018 they had the close series with Houston he might have helped with, though that series went very small-ball so he also might have been played off the court.
In 2019 they lost in the finals because with Klay and KD injured Nurse could run the 'everybody guard Steph' defense. I don't know that Unseld really helps with that.
The 2016 finals is the one place he could have mattered. Especially if - unlike Bogut and Ezeli - he was healthy for game 7. A few extra stops and defensive rebounds and GS wins a close game.