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Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go

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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#521 » by tedbrogen » Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:10 am

AussieBuck wrote:Props to Thanasis for anchoring the young unit and not **** it up.


TA at center is better than RoLo at center. Neither can shoot, dribble, or pass but at least TA can sometime finish near the rim. TA is a better rim protector, better rebounder, plays with more energy, and is far more switchable.

Plus those undersized lineups sometimes trick teams into trying to feed the post and then you can swarm the guy posting up and create turnovers. Basically you talk teams into running a 90s offense that they don’t really practice.
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#522 » by tedbrogen » Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:13 am

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AussieBuck wrote:Props to Thanasis for anchoring the young unit and not **** it up.



Working on moving ip to 359th best player in the league.


Progress.


Bucks have two players on their roster easily worse than TA. RoLo and Beasily.
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#523 » by FrieAaron » Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:24 am

Really like what Marjon, AJJ and Tyty showed tonight.
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#524 » by buckboy » Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:54 am

tedbrogen wrote:
buckboy wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Props to Thanasis for anchoring the young unit and not **** it up.



Working on moving ip to 359th best player in the league.


Progress.


Bucks have two players on their roster easily worse than TA. RoLo and Beasily.


Disagree

Thanasis is a mascot.
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#525 » by Daver » Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:26 am

I know stats can ve deceiving but damn never seen a team miss more opern 3s than the bucks like i have zero faith they will knock them doen.Other teams shoot 3s so beautifully yet i dont know
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#526 » by Daver » Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:29 am

PG Graveyard wrote:The free throw thing with Giannis just continues to get worse. Where is the sports psychologist? He needs help
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#527 » by Daver » Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:31 am

PG Graveyard wrote:The free throw thing with Giannis just continues to get worse. Where is the sports psychologist? He needs help



Hiw bout spending a off season just practing them.JFC other players have done that n improved.Apparently missing 13 in game 5 didnt bother him enough to practice
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Post#528 » by tedbrogen » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:03 am

buckboy wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:
buckboy wrote:

Working on moving ip to 359th best player in the league.


Progress.


Bucks have two players on their roster easily worse than TA. RoLo and Beasily.


Disagree

Thanasis is a mascot.


I assume you didn’t watch tonight’s game because TA has easily outplayed RoLo at center. And Beasily/RoLo combined to giveaway a 14 point lead in about five minutes. They were THAT bad.

That’s before accounting for the Thunder torching the Bucks because of those two as well.

I’d cut both right now and give their minutes to literally anyone else, including TA, on the roster.
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#529 » by tedbrogen » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:04 am

Daver wrote:I know stats can ve deceiving but damn never seen a team miss more opern 3s than the bucks like i have zero faith they will knock them doen.Other teams shoot 3s so beautifully yet i dont know


AJ Green knocks them down, so does Marjon…
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Post#530 » by DutchManDanFan » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:06 am

Daver wrote:
PG Graveyard wrote:The free throw thing with Giannis just continues to get worse. Where is the sports psychologist? He needs help


Hiw bout spending a off season just practing them.JFC other players have done that n improved.Apparently missing 13 in game 5 didnt bother him enough to practice

What if he makes 80% in practice? Practice more?
I think he might be a good 3p shooter in practice as well. So he believes it's a good shot if he's wide open in a game. He should know better by now.
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Post#531 » by tsamo » Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:03 am

Honestly, I'd be more concerned about Dame than Giannis. He has been straight up bad for most of the preseason.
Can't shoot from three to save his life, his passes are 50/50 if they'll be stolen, his defense has been as expected.

Of course it' still early and they are going to iron a lot of things out going forward, but still...

With that said, the bench mob of TA, AJJ, MB, AJG and TyTy was amazing!
BroLo has been spectacular to start the preseason.
RoLo desperately needs some reps because I think we are going to see him more than we think of right now.
Payne is a game changer, I really hope his injury is not anything long term.
Pat is so up and down, I don't know what to think so far.

Remember we are built for the playoffs now, we are not going to win every game or even every other one. And it's going to get worse before it gets better.
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#532 » by Fotis St » Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:49 am

tedbrogen wrote:
Daver wrote:I know stats can ve deceiving but damn never seen a team miss more opern 3s than the bucks like i have zero faith they will knock them doen.Other teams shoot 3s so beautifully yet i dont know


AJ Green knocks them down,so does Marjon

I saw what you did there :reporter:
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#533 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:52 am

rilamann wrote:I said it last season and I'll say it again. What does (did) Grayson Allen give you that AJ Green can't.

All the young guys look legitimately solid.


allens a better defender and can attack closeouts off the dribble and makes the quicker pass.

green has a way quicker trigger and is even a better shooter.

i like them both and dont disagree with your premise in general. i want to see alot more of green.
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#534 » by PG Graveyard » Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:20 pm

DutchManDanFan wrote:
Daver wrote:
PG Graveyard wrote:The free throw thing with Giannis just continues to get worse. Where is the sports psychologist? He needs help


Hiw bout spending a off season just practing them.JFC other players have done that n improved.Apparently missing 13 in game 5 didnt bother him enough to practice

What if he makes 80% in practice? Practice more?
I think he might be a good 3p shooter in practice as well. So he believes it's a good shot if he's wide open in a game. He should know better by now.


Yeah it’s not a practice thing it’s mental. Somehow he needs to get back to 70 percent
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#535 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:20 pm

mattg wrote:
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mattg wrote:Eh, Giannis definitely wants to win, but I think this is pie in the sky thinking. Giannis has shown nothing in a literal decade to demonstrate he will alter his game away from his bulldozer in a tunnel style. At a certain point guys are who they are, Giannis is just never going to morph into the idealized version of Giannis who is the greatest roll man ever. It just is never going to happen. On paper Giannis could be SO MUCH MORE THAN HE IS. On paper, he could be the literal GOAT of the basketball with an altered approach...but that's just not in the cards.


Not true entirely. In the finals he deferred to Midds at the end of games. The almost exclusively ran PnR with Giannis screening for Midds in late game situations.

Giannis was coming off a serious injury that limited him AND Phoenix absolutely froze under the pressure and decided to not play defense on Giannis like every single other team that had success against us did. We got exceedingly lucky with our path to the finals that year, and then the Suns deciding that instead of looking at the tape of every other team that had given Giannis absolute fits in the playoffs, to throw all of that out the window.

Also, the fact that we won a title with Giannis acting as a roll man, and then him completely refusing to implement that into his game for the next 2 seasons sorta confirms exactly what I said. We can point to a 6 game sample, or we could look at everything else. If literally winning a title doing one thing won't convince Giannis to change, what will?


Where are people coming up with this " we won the title with Giannis as the role man" revisionist history?

Giannis scored all day on drives from the elbow.
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Post#536 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:23 pm

Daver wrote:
PG Graveyard wrote:The free throw thing with Giannis just continues to get worse. Where is the sports psychologist? He needs help



Hiw bout spending a off season just practing them.JFC other players have done that n improved.Apparently missing 13 in game 5 didnt bother him enough to practice


If you think Giannis doesn't practice them, then you don't know Giannis.
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Post#537 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:27 pm

tedbrogen wrote:
buckboy wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:
Bucks have two players on their roster easily worse than TA. RoLo and Beasily.


Disagree

Thanasis is a mascot.


I assume you didn’t watch tonight’s game because TA has easily outplayed RoLo at center. And Beasily/RoLo combined to giveaway a 14 point lead in about five minutes. They were THAT bad.

That’s before accounting for the Thunder torching the Bucks because of those two as well.

I’d cut both right now and give their minutes to literally anyone else, including TA, on the roster.


Yeah, Beasley can make open 3s but provides absolutely nothing else. If he touches the ball when he's not open, bad things happen. It's ridiculous that Griffin can't see it.
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#538 » by CharityStripe34 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:32 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
mattg wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:
Not true entirely. In the finals he deferred to Midds at the end of games. The almost exclusively ran PnR with Giannis screening for Midds in late game situations.

Giannis was coming off a serious injury that limited him AND Phoenix absolutely froze under the pressure and decided to not play defense on Giannis like every single other team that had success against us did. We got exceedingly lucky with our path to the finals that year, and then the Suns deciding that instead of looking at the tape of every other team that had given Giannis absolute fits in the playoffs, to throw all of that out the window.

Also, the fact that we won a title with Giannis acting as a roll man, and then him completely refusing to implement that into his game for the next 2 seasons sorta confirms exactly what I said. We can point to a 6 game sample, or we could look at everything else. If literally winning a title doing one thing won't convince Giannis to change, what will?


Where are people coming up with this " we won the title with Giannis as the role man" revisionist history?

Giannis scored all day on drives from the elbow.


To be fair, he did cede the playmaking duties to Khris in the 4th during the title run and set more screens than he ever had before in his career. He basically played like a modern-day playmaking big that we know he can be. Play from 15ft an in, focus more on finishing rather than initiating. You're right, part of that was catching the ball on the left-wing around 15-16ft from the hoop where it was infinitely easier to make his move or find an open man off a double team. I think what everyone groans about is when he's at the top of the key and the entire defense is keyed in on him.
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Post#539 » by drone3 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:52 pm

Giannis needs to watch tape from this game on repeat.

No need to take on 5 defenders when Damian freakin Lillard is wide open ready to splash!
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#540 » by dbrodz7 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 1:01 pm

Daver wrote:
PG Graveyard wrote:The free throw thing with Giannis just continues to get worse. Where is the sports psychologist? He needs help



Hiw bout spending a off season just practing them.JFC other players have done that n improved.Apparently missing 13 in game 5 didnt bother him enough to practice


Making 70-75% of his free throws would impact the game significantly more than any other sh*t he spends all offseason working on like post moves and shooting. I understand he practices free throws, but it's always some version of the same stupid ass long routine. It needs to be one dribble shoot in a fluid motion and no time for him to sit there and think about he's about to miss again.
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