Rockies in AL EAST

Mak · Post #1 » by **Mak** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:34 pm

Do they even make the playoffs?

I say they finish 4th in AL East, if there were to replace Tampa.

GregB · Post #2 » by **GregB** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:48 pm

IMO, They would be somewhere between Toronto and Baltimore.

WEFFPIM · Post #3 » by **WEFFPIM** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:36 pm

Ummm, why do you ask?

High 5 · Post #4 » by **High 5** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:33 am

They'd finish third. This is a kind of pointless question, though. Boston and New York were two of the top three teams in the AL and Colorado just squeaked in in as the WC in the NL.

cb4_89 · Post #5 » by **cb4_89** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:21 am

basically= to the jays if the jays were healthy.

cmaff051 · Post #6 » by **cmaff051** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:23 am

cb4_89 wrote:basically= to the jays if the jays were healthy.

If the Jays hitters were healthy this year, they would have been much better than the 2007 Rockies.

denvers_finest · Post #7 » by **denvers_finest** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:43 pm

High 5 wrote:They'd finish third. This is a kind of pointless question, though. Boston and New York were two of the top three teams in the AL and Colorado just squeaked in in as the WC in the NL.

Well, the Rockies finished the season with 89 wins (90 if you count the play-in) and the D-Backs had the best record in the NL.... with 90 wins.

And this is a stupid topic any way.... what place would Boston finish in the NL West, if Ortiz had to play 120 games at first base? Answer... doesn't matter cause they're not in the NL West....

SportsWorld · Post #8 » by **SportsWorld** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:25 pm

Why are we comparing a team with a payroll of $54,424,000 (25th in MLB) to the Yankees who have a payroll of $195,229,045 (1st in MLB), the Red Sox who have a payroll of $143,123,714 (2nd in MLB), the Toronto Blue Jays who have a payroll of $79,925,600 (17th in MLB), and the Baltimore Orioles who have a payroll of $95,107,808 (10th in MLB)???

4 out of the 5 teams in the AL East have a bigger payroll than the Colorado Rockies.

cb4_89 · Post #9 » by **cb4_89** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:35 pm

Dman didn't realize the Os dished out that much.

Mak · Post #10 » by **Mak** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:18 am

denvers_finest wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Well, the Rockies finished the season with 89 wins (90 if you count the play-in) and the D-Backs had the best record in the NL.... with 90 wins.

And this is a stupid topic any way.... what place would Boston finish in the NL West, if Ortiz had to play 120 games at first base? Answer... doesn't matter cause they're not in the NL West....

No, the correct answer is they would finish first in NL West.

High 5 · Post #11 » by **High 5** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:52 am

denvers_finest wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Well, the Rockies finished the season with 89 wins (90 if you count the play-in) and the D-Backs had the best record in the NL.... with 90 wins.

And this is a stupid topic any way.... what place would Boston finish in the NL West, if Ortiz had to play 120 games at first base? Answer... doesn't matter cause they're not in the NL West....

Having to win a tie breaker game after winning 14 out of 15 or whatever is the definition of squeaking in.

Howard Stern · Post #12 » by **Howard Stern** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:30 am

cb4_89 wrote:Dman didn't realize the Os dished out that much.

The Orioles are not shy spenders thats for sure.

HDMAVS760CA · Post #13 » by **HDMAVS760CA** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:00 am

A simple HELL BLEEPING NO!

denvers_finest · Post #14 » by **denvers_finest** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:16 pm

High 5 wrote:Having to win a tie breaker game after winning 14 out of 15 or whatever is the definition of squeaking in.

Fine, but you can make the same arguement for every team in the NL, with every single playoff spot up in the air going into the final week of the season. The rockies "squeaked in" as much as every single playoff team in the NL.

I was simply pointing out, that while the Rockies were the wild card, they had the same number of wins as the Phillies, and four more wins then the Cubs. And they were exactly one game short of the best record in the league. They got the wild card by virtue of playing in the deepest (arguably the best) division in baseball.

Mak wrote:No, the correct answer is they would finish first in NL EAST.

Fixed

Ex-hippie · Post #15 » by **Ex-hippie** » Thu Nov 1, 2007 9:42 pm

I'm sure some sabermetric type has computed an estimate of how many more or fewer wins a team would have by switching leagues. My wild-ass guess is that a team that wins 89 games in the NL would win something more like 82 or 83 games in the AL. That's ignoring variables like how a team's roster was constructed to play with or without a DH. It also assumes that each team has the same level of luck within a season (hence, looking at Arizona's 90-72 actual record, not its 79-83 Pythagorean record).

If I'm right about that, it would mean that the top NL teams this year were about on a par with Toronto, the 7th best team in the AL and not a very serious playoff contender.