Obi Toppin Throws Shots At Knicks After Dropping 19 Points In Preseason Game

[Chanel Bomber]

I don't blame him for being salty. He was the 8th pick (I think?) but never got the same opportunity as other guys drafted in that range.

The part I never understood is that this was obvious from the beginning. Randle was already there and Thibs is notorious for having both a tight leash for rookies and no patience for poor defenders. That pick never made sense and there were so many other guys there that would have been better fits (ignoring Haliburton they could have picked Avdija, Vassell or even Cole Anthony).

The pick never made any sense because he never projected as as an NBA starter - he doesn't have a role. He's a great backup though.

The Knicks were actually trying to trade Randle after drafting Obi, but they chose not to settle for a trade return they deemed insufficient (there were talks of Batum) so they kept the ball rolling and next thing you know 6 months later Randle's on the All-NBA second team.

Just an unfortunate series of events for Obi as an individual player but he didn't have the positional versatility to play alongside the team's star and therefore he got buried. But it also speaks to his limitations as a player.

[tsherkin]

It's preseason. How can you throw shots at anyone during preseason?

It’s the Knicks….

They were a 47-win team last year. It's been a decade since they won that many games, so it probably isn't really the right time to bag on New York.

[Papi_swav]

I still think Knicks should of chose him over Randle

A Bench big over a 2 time all NBA player?

it's not always about the accolades, sometimes it's fit. I just think Obi fits a team play better than Randle. Randle is a ball stopper and can shoot you out of games. Just because Melo is a hall of famer, the Pistons were better off with Tayshaun Prince, just a reference.

[SalmonsSuperfan]

I don't blame him for being salty. He was the 8th pick (I think?) but never got the same opportunity as other guys drafted in that range.

The part I never understood is that this was obvious from the beginning. Randle was already there and Thibs is notorious for having both a tight leash for rookies and no patience for poor defenders. That pick never made sense and there were so many other guys there that would have been better fits (ignoring Haliburton they could have picked Avdija, Vassell or even Cole Anthony).

then he should have been a better basketball player. imagine a player having an ego about that. try being better. second round rookies get a shot all the time because they're actually good at basketball. and the knicks are better off having two future seconds in exchange for him, because he sucks, and because indiana is in a position to say "well, we know he sucks at basketball, but some team drafted him that high, so maybe he isn't as garbage as his entire resume of playing basketball would suggest, let's give him a shot"

[SalmonsSuperfan]

bench players talkin like starters, i hate it.
hey mod delete my previous posts and the memories of =6 users, this is the post i wanna go with.

[SalmonsSuperfan]

"i reached heights that dwight howard couldn't reach" drake was a much better rapper when he was just shouting out nba players

[SalmonsSuperfan]

and ellen degeneres how come she got canceled and sex offender lizzo didn't? why does stephen colbert still have a tv show hmmm. i actually liked that tv show ellen, that guy from malcolm in the middle was on it.

o yea obi toppin sux

[durden_tyler]

Potentially he can drop Julius Randle numbers on Julius Randle efficiency. So the Knicks couldn’t care less since they already have the all stats empty player kind of guy. LOL

[iLLmatic860]

Potentially he can drop Julius Randle numbers on Julius Randle efficiency. So the Knicks couldn’t care less since they already have the all stats empty player kind of guy. LOL

What have you seen from Obi that you believe hes a 25 and 10 guy?

[Oscirus]

to sum it up in the preseason, his point totals were 8,8, 17. Why is he talking **** behind one double-digit game in the preseason?

[Roy T]

Jarace as a rookie is not helping any team to contend.

This Indiana team is no contender even if they had prime Jordon on their team.

[jvsimonetti0514]

There’s some sweet irony that Obi is now the vet blocking a lottery selected power forward. A hero living long enough to see himself as a villain.

It’s just weird that he see him taking shots, when the Knicks did him a solid by trading for his contract year. They could have left him as a 14 min a game energy big and now he’ll get minutes and hopefully a chance to get paid but he’s still salty.

[Sixers in 4]

There’s some sweet irony that Obi is now the vet blocking a lottery selected power forward. A hero living long enough to see himself as a villain.

It’s just weird that he see him taking shots, when the Knicks did him a solid by trading for his contract year. They could have left him as a 14 min a game energy big and now he’ll get minutes and hopefully a chance to get paid but he’s still salty.

Energy bigs play defense and rebound.

He is salty because his career hasn't gone the way he wanted it to, but he is closer to being out the of league than a starter at this point.

[KdoubleDees23]

I just realized Obi Toppin is on the pacers lol

[Bob Ross]

Knicks shouldve traded Obi after they resigned Julius. That being said, they did Obi a favor sending him somewhere he will get good minutes in a favorable style of play for 2 trash seconds. Maybe shut up, Obi

[LBJKB24MJ23]

I remember the days when Knicks fans were raving about Kevin Knox and Obi Toppin.

[cgf]

I still think Knicks should of chose him over Randle

A Bench big over a 2 time all NBA player?

it's not always about the accolades, sometimes it's fit. I just think Obi fits a team play better than Randle. Randle is a ball stopper and can shoot you out of games. Just because Melo is a hall of famer, the Pistons were better off with Tayshaun Prince, just a reference.

Some teams. But our offense was so successful because our best players got into the paint and created chaos. We didn't shoot particular well, but we didn't turn the ball over, we got rebounds, we got to the FT line, and we got a lot of open 3s. And Julius simply helped us with those things more than Obi did...on top of being a better defender.

Now Obi was a great burst of energy off the bench because he's great in transition and he's made a lot of progress as a shooter / ball handler / defender since being drafted, so I hope he does well on a Pacers team that should be a better fit for him...and tbh his ceiling is still the sky if he keeps progressing...but he simply wasn't as good for us as Julius these past 3 years.


I know that a lot of people are lower on Randle than I've become over the past 5 years that I've watched him closely...4 in NY + 1 in NOLA...but he's not some net negative / empty-calories player. He's taken us to the playoffs in 2 of the past 3 seasons, and he's shown he can thrive with other stars taking the ball out of his hands for us this past season & the Pels when he was there.

So even if he ends up taking DeRozan's crown...rather than just being someone who had Elfrid Payton hamstringing him in his first playoff series and his ankle limiting him last spring...that's not a run of the mill player who just anybody can replace and improve their team's results.

[cgf]

I remember the days when Knicks fans were raving about Kevin Knox and Obi Toppin.

I still think the sky is the limit for him. It wasn't going to happen in NYK and Randle's a better fit for the way we've created our competitive advantage on offense. But I won't be surprised if he becomes an Allstar in Indiana.

[cgf]

There’s some sweet irony that Obi is now the vet blocking a lottery selected power forward. A hero living long enough to see himself as a villain.

It’s just weird that he see him taking shots, when the Knicks did him a solid by trading for his contract year. They could have left him as a 14 min a game energy big and now he’ll get minutes and hopefully a chance to get paid but he’s still salty.

Energy bigs play defense and rebound.

He is salty because his career hasn't gone the way he wanted it to, but he is closer to being out the of league than a starter at this point.

Obi's not a bad rebounder fundamentally, we just didn't put him in position to get many boards because we had him leak out as soon shots went up and on offense we'd plant him in the corner of our half court sets. So he was rarely around the hoop when either team would shoot, but when he was he didn't show bad instincts or anything.

The defense...though much improved and now adequate at the 4...is a weakness, but plenty of other energy bigs have been meh defenders and Obi could still become a solid-to-good defender even if his lateral quickness isn't special like his vertical burst is.

[Papi_swav]

A Bench big over a 2 time all NBA player?

it's not always about the accolades, sometimes it's fit. I just think Obi fits a team play better than Randle. Randle is a ball stopper and can shoot you out of games. Just because Melo is a hall of famer, the Pistons were better off with Tayshaun Prince, just a reference.

Some teams. But our offense was so successful because our best players got into the paint and created chaos. We didn't shoot particular well, but we didn't turn the ball over, we got rebounds, we got to the FT line, and we got a lot of open 3s. And Julius simply helped us with those things more than Obi did...on top of being a better defender.

Now Obi was a great burst of energy off the bench because he's great in transition and he's made a lot of progress as a shooter / ball handler / defender since being drafted, so I hope he does well on a Pacers team that should be a better fit for him...and tbh his ceiling is still the sky if he keeps progressing...but he simply wasn't as good for us as Julius these past 3 years.


I know that a lot of people are lower on Randle than I've become over the past 5 years that I've watched him closely...4 in NY + 1 in NOLA...but he's not some net negative / empty-calories player. He's taken us to the playoffs in 2 of the past 3 seasons, and he's shown he can thrive with other stars taking the ball out of his hands for us this past season & the Pels when he was there.

So even if he ends up taking DeRozan's crown...rather than just being someone who had Elfrid Payton hamstringing him in his first playoff series and his ankle limiting him last spring...that's not a run of the mill player who just anybody can replace and improve their team's results.

Obi wasn't as good as Randle because he never got the playing time Randle did and the opportunities. Every time Randle went down and Obi stepped in for him he played great and was dropping 20/10 games. How many times have Randle shot ya out of games or created many turnovers thinking he's Lebron? I've seen it several times, yea he's won ya games too and Randle is good don't get me wrong, but he can mess up the flow sometimes. And when you have a guy like Brunson, I think it's better for him to have a guy like Obi beside him rather than Randle IMO. Obi shot and play has improved alot over time and I think trading him for almost nothing is going to be a mistake.