Giannis Thread - On Asking for a Trade - "I am not this kind of guy, they would have to kick me out”.

[paulpressey25]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/10/24/23930037/giannis-antetokounmpo-extension-milwaukee-bucks

Here is another beauty. By tomorrow him signing will probably be a negative. Man are these guys upset about this

Howard Beck badly needed a job. So Bill Simmons hired him. This column was his thank you letter. Make the boss feel better about signing that paycheck.

[Ron Swanson]

They're taking a valid point (contracts don't really matter anymore) but just selectively applying it. Again, does anyone think that if Boston flames out in the 2nd round, that there's going to be any chatter in the media discourse about Jayson Tatum "asking out" or "will he sign the extension"? Of course there won't be. The irony that Boston has literally never recruited a big-name free agent (Gordon Hayward lulz) in the modern era will be completely lost on them.

Windhorst made his career covering Lebron and Lebron has always kept his options open, he's never been tied down for more than 2-3 years at a time. I'm neither remotely interested nor remotely qualified to make psychological comparison between him and Giannis, but its very clear that Giannis has a much better relationship with the Bucks organization than Lebron did with the Cavs, Heat and Lakers.

Also this. Windy's NBA worldview is entirely shaped by his relationship with and adulation of Lebron's career. He can't fathom why a player of Giannis' stature wouldn't leverage everything that stature affords him and front-runner-mercenary his way to as many rings as possible. These guys have been conditioned at this point to view the concept of being a loyal, drama-free teammate as an almost hindrance to one's legacy. The idea that Giannis or Jokic can be Lebron without the narcissistic clown car of baggage he brings is a very confusing development to some in the "player empowerment" era.

[Matches Malone]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/10/24/23930037/giannis-antetokounmpo-extension-milwaukee-bucks

Here is another beauty. By tomorrow him signing will probably be a negative. Man are these guys upset about this

[Prez]

It’s remarkable how badly Giannis signing multiple extensions has mind **** the national media.

And I think the issues are compounded by A) little Lasry not being around to leak stuff and B) Bud, well liked by various media members (like Zach Lowe), getting fired. They no longer have the access they usually did, and Giannis just took a dump on their year-round “will he leave” content machine.

[sidney lanier]

Windy is just salty because unlike when he lucked into a connection with LeBron and his team, he has zero connection to Giannis and it’s making some of his takes/reporting look silly.

Yeah, you're the supposed NBA expert and are clearly behind the curve here, so of course you get a little salty.

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Capture that moment, Windy. And don't forget to work LeBron into the conversation whenever you can.

[GBPackers47]

how long can ESPN say "they have 2 roster spots taken by his brothers" before they just look at the roster?

[jschligs]

Windy is the biggest "oh I want to be at the cool kids table" moron there is. Don't care for him at all.

That said, I love when these things happen. Anything with MKE doing well or getting a big name player or title gets the media in a frenzy and they panic. I love it.

[Shaffty]

these national media guys were banking on phoning their job in over the next two seasons and just using a monthly 'giannis to the lakers???' story to hit their metric numbers to keep the bosses happy.

They are pissed the cash cow has been slaughtered

[rilamann]

They're taking a valid point (contracts don't really matter anymore) but just selectively applying it. Again, does anyone think that if Boston flames out in the 2nd round, that there's going to be any chatter in the media discourse about Jayson Tatum "asking out" or "will he sign the extension"? Of course there won't be. The irony that Boston has literally never recruited a big-name free agent (Gordon Hayward lulz) in the modern era will be completely lost on them.

You hit the nail on the head with this point. People see ESPN's agenda with Giannis because Giannis is the only superstar that they do this to.

What if the Bucks have a bad year, sure it's possible.

But if Giannis played for the Celtics and the Celtics had just traded for Damien Lillard, we all know that there's not a chance in hell Windy says something like that.

If Giannis and Dame teamed up on the Boston Celtics, not a single person in the media would even entertain the idea that Boston Might have a bad year for a nano second.

The Bucks don't have the assets to acquire Dame.

Giannis' next contract won't be with the Bucks

The massive **** you Jon Horst & Giannis just gave to the national media over the past 30 days is beyond awesome.

That's why I said yesterday that this is already one of my all-time favorite seasons as a Bucks fan and we haven't even played a single game yet....lol.

[Milbucks96]

I said when Giannis made his comments about potentially leaving that neither the bucks or Giannis owed anything to each other. Bucks did plenty before to put a really good team around him, and Giannis does as much heavy lifting as any superstar in the history of the league while also just being a great dude and franchise face.

To me, it seemed like the relationship was naturally coming to a close just because of timelines and limited assets(Horst is a monster). The bucks then makes a huge commitment to winning and therefore Giannis, saying we’re all in. Giannis then matches the energy and signs early.

Neither side had to do anything, could’ve just kept going and let things play out, but this shows a great relationship between Giannis and the front office at least.

Also shows the owners are willing to spend but that’s the only “praise” those hoarders are going to get from me.

[emunney]

Windhorst didn't harp on it much, but there seems to be this assumption with media types now that stars will immediately look to bolt if the team has a bad season. Even just a disappointing one like last season, which was fantastic until the plop in the playoffs. Not everyone is James Harden. It took Dame a long time to finally ask out and that was because he saw an extended rebuild coming.

wHaT iF tHe BuCkS hAvE a DoWn YeAr? Giannis never said he was leaving if they had a down year - he just wanted to see that the organization was trying and not going for a long-term rebuild. jfc.

Also, "now he's in the same position Dame was in". Are you listening to yourself? What happened with Dame again? Got traded to a team with a multiple MVP? The horror.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

bottom line is either in small markets or teams underperforming then the media is gonna talk about stars leaving either in free agency or more likely asking out. i dont think we get picked on anymore than anyplace else

and if anything i think it feels like we bring this talk on ourselves intentionally with the interviews giannis has repeatedly now. anytime a player of giannis magnitude talks about leaving in the media then of course its gonna blow up. you think if tatum or embiid or joker had a year left and talked openly like that it wouldnt with them either?

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

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Did he seem that annoyed when Lebron signed his extension in LA?

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/10/24/23930037/giannis-antetokounmpo-extension-milwaukee-bucks

Here is another beauty. By tomorrow him signing will probably be a negative. Man are these guys upset about this

The thing they leave out is WE GETTING A **** LOAD OF COMPENSATION IF HE SUDDENLY WANTS OUT. Like it went from we need to win a championship this year to having 2 years to see how it works and still be able to trade him for assets later if it doesn't.

[emunney]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/10/24/23930037/giannis-antetokounmpo-extension-milwaukee-bucks

Here is another beauty. By tomorrow him signing will probably be a negative. Man are these guys upset about this

The thing they leave out is WE GETTING A **** LOAD OF COMPENSATION IF HE SUDDENLY WANTS OUT. Like it went from we need to win a championship this year to having 2 years to see how it works and still be able to trade him for assets later if it doesn't.

Kind of dropping the mask with "forewarning". Beck is desperate for a superstar in NY. I like him and am glad he landed on his feet but it is what it is. And he's also not wrong about guys leaving under all kinds of circumstances. What people keep failing to account for is that Giannis is demonstrably different. He's only asking out if we're forced to rebuild. If we can avoid that, he stays.

Giannis signing a contract doesn't change that. What it changes is the volume.

[RRyder823]

Windhorst didn't harp on it much, but there seems to be this assumption with media types now that stars will immediately look to bolt if the team has a bad season. Even just a disappointing one like last season, which was fantastic until the plop in the playoffs. Not everyone is James Harden. It took Dame a long time to finally ask out and that was because he saw an extended rebuild coming.

wHaT iF tHe BuCkS hAvE a DoWn YeAr? Giannis never said he was leaving if they had a down year - he just wanted to see that the organization was trying and not going for a long-term rebuild. jfc.

Also, "now he's in the same position Dame was in". Are you listening to yourself? What happened with Dame again? Got traded to a team with a multiple MVP? The horror.

Yeah I heard him say that and was just like how the **** do you compare Dames team last year in Portland with this current Bucks team?

Like how the hell does that thought pop into your head?

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[emunney]

Windhorst didn't harp on it much, but there seems to be this assumption with media types now that stars will immediately look to bolt if the team has a bad season. Even just a disappointing one like last season, which was fantastic until the plop in the playoffs. Not everyone is James Harden. It took Dame a long time to finally ask out and that was because he saw an extended rebuild coming.

wHaT iF tHe BuCkS hAvE a DoWn YeAr? Giannis never said he was leaving if they had a down year - he just wanted to see that the organization was trying and not going for a long-term rebuild. jfc.

Also, "now he's in the same position Dame was in". Are you listening to yourself? What happened with Dame again? Got traded to a team with a multiple MVP? The horror.

Yeah I heard him say that and was just like how the **** do you compare Dames team last year in Portland with this current Bucks team?

Like how the hell does that thought pop into your head?

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I'm more getting at the idea that there's a negative lesson to be taken from Dame's perspective. He landed in an ideal situation. Could not be more perfect for him. Why is that to be avoided?

[RRyder823]

bottom line is either in small markets or teams underperforming then the media is gonna talk about stars leaving either in free agency or more likely asking out. i dont think we get picked on anymore than anyplace else

and if anything i think it feels like we bring this talk on ourselves intentionally with the interviews giannis has repeatedly now. anytime a player of giannis magnitude talks about leaving in the media then of course its gonna blow up. you think if tatum or embiid or joker had a year left and talked openly like that it wouldnt with them either?

Embiid has talked openly like that..... Recently...... Got talked about for like an hour


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[emunney]

I fully expect the Embiid speculation to heat up now. I don't think Philly dodges that unless they look really good without Harden. If we beat their ass on Thursday, it'll be all over the shows on Friday morning. They need SOMETHING to talk about and none of them know **** about hoops, so...

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

bottom line is either in small markets or teams underperforming then the media is gonna talk about stars leaving either in free agency or more likely asking out. i dont think we get picked on anymore than anyplace else

and if anything i think it feels like we bring this talk on ourselves intentionally with the interviews giannis has repeatedly now. anytime a player of giannis magnitude talks about leaving in the media then of course its gonna blow up. you think if tatum or embiid or joker had a year left and talked openly like that it wouldnt with them either?

Embiid has talked openly like that..... Recently...... Got talked about for like an hour

and hes got 3 years left and people are still saying the whole league got their eye on "the situation in philly". im not sure it isnt the current example of the biggest story in the league?