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Post#141 » by KATKlownFeet » Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:03 am

_AIJ_ wrote:Trade him to the knicks already!


The Knicks have nobody I want. :banghead:
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Post#142 » by Neeva » Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:19 am

I am still pissed off at this game, obviously we can’t have both Ant and Kat shooting like **** in the same game and hope that is the last time it happens.
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Post#143 » by TwolvesFanRome » Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:35 am

I have seen the extended highlights...Just the same music: the ball doesn't move, poor defense,
KAT who seems like any Favors or Muscala because we still can't get him to mix with Gobert and therefore he seems like a fish out of water. meh. I hoped and believed I would see something different after all the time I had available and the preseason.
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Post#144 » by Calinks » Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:37 am

That was an ass kicking. The score was close but we felt like we were getting worked all game. Spacing was terrible. Toronto dictated everything and we got ran off the court in transition.

Lots to work on.

Got to find a better rhythm for the bigs, KAT looked awful. The spacing is a real mess and the Raptors were easily able to muck the game up for us.

Offense has to be better, this wont get it done, got to move it better.

Rebound. Must rebound.

Got to use our size better. We are huge but very rarely ever seem able to do anything good with it. That's a big problem.
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Post#145 » by KGdaBom » Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:07 am

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KGdaBom wrote:I will reiterate. If we make even 40% of our shots we win this game with ease. That was the only real problem. We shot like sheet.


The root cause of shooting poorly was horrible offensive structure.


And that is coaching I'm afraid to say.

Nick would either of you know a good or horrible offensive structure if one came up and bit you? Just asking if you're qualified to make that determination. I'm not qualified. I just know a horrible shooting game when I look at the box score and we've shot 34%. I wonder when was the last time we shot that bad? I don't recall us ever shooting that bad, but we probably have. Make your freaking shots is my solution.
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Post#146 » by KGdaBom » Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:10 am

Neeva wrote:I am still pissed off at this game, obviously we can’t have both Ant and Kat shooting like **** in the same game and hope that is the last time it happens.

That was the reason for the loss. Bad shooting. Nothing else. Bad shooting was the result of bad shooting. Nothing else. If we had just shot really, really bad. Say 40% we would have won with ease.
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Post#147 » by Domejandro » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:18 am

The bigger issue is Towns checking out and not running back on defense for a huge spurt of plays. Whenever he does that, teams go on runs.

It’s just incredibly frustrating. Bad shooting happens, but the frustration turnovers and giving up defensively is terrible. I will never understand it, he is too talented to play like that.
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Post#148 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:34 am

Just watch the replay. Terrible games in terms of offense, Ant and KAT taking 52 shoot at 30 %. It happen sometimes players have bad night shooting, sad it happen for our 2 stars the same day.
Rudy was were i expect he can be this year . Rebound, blocks, offense was as good as he can be ( average at best).
Slomo, Naz and Mike were decent..... Hope Kat and Ant forget this night and shoot well next game.
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Post#149 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:35 pm

Unbelievable, a game with a final score of 97-94 you have two players going for 8-27 and 8-25.

This team continues to have characters that only care about their personal numbers and where is the coaching staff to hold these guys accountable for this?

How can you shoot so much with such low efficiency?

What the hell?
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Post#150 » by Note30 » Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:36 pm

Merc_Porto wrote:Unbelievable, a game with a final score of 97-94 you have two players going for 8-27 and 8-25.

This team continues to have characters that only care about their personal numbers and where is the coaching staff to hold these guys accountable for this?

How can you shoot so much with such low efficiency?

What the hell?


Did you watch the game? We have no offense. Like we ran maybe the same 3 plays over and over. Most of the issue with the ball stopping came from a lack of players moving, not just the lack of ball movement. NAW and Conley were both parked on the corner wings while Ant and KAT sat up top and Ant, KAT, and Rudy just ran the same bored floppy screen action over and over. If Ant started off the possession he often passed it to KAT either at the top of the 3 or on the high post, Rudy would crash to the dunkers spot, and he would try to go one on one.

If the coach didn't see this he must have been at the concession stand.

We don't have any semblance of an offense how are guys supposed to do anything else?
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Post#151 » by Note30 » Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:46 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Neeva wrote:I am still pissed off at this game, obviously we can’t have both Ant and Kat shooting like **** in the same game and hope that is the last time it happens.

That was the reason for the loss. Bad shooting. Nothing else. Bad shooting was the result of bad shooting. Nothing else. If we had just shot really, really bad. Say 40% we would have won with ease.


Did you watch the game?
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Post#152 » by KGdaBom » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:46 pm

Note30 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Neeva wrote:I am still pissed off at this game, obviously we can’t have both Ant and Kat shooting like **** in the same game and hope that is the last time it happens.

That was the reason for the loss. Bad shooting. Nothing else. Bad shooting was the result of bad shooting. Nothing else. If we had just shot really, really bad. Say 40% we would have won with ease.


Did you watch the game?

Yes. I watched us miss shot after shot after shot. If we had shot really, really bad say 40% instead of what we did we would have won with ease. The one and only reason for the loss was the horrific shooting.
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Post#153 » by Note30 » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:52 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
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KGdaBom wrote:That was the reason for the loss. Bad shooting. Nothing else. Bad shooting was the result of bad shooting. Nothing else. If we had just shot really, really bad. Say 40% we would have won with ease.


Did you watch the game?

Yes. I watched us miss shot after shot after shot. If we had shot really, really bad say 40% instead of what we did we would have won with ease. The one and only reason for the loss was the horrific shooting.


So no other factors other than the actual output of poor shooting are attributable to this loss? Let's say for example, shot selection?
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Post#154 » by Domejandro » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:53 pm

To be fair, Jaden McDaniels’ cutting and ability to hit an open jumper will be exceptionally important. I think our facilitating situation is a real problem, though.
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Post#155 » by twolves31 » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:55 pm

Merc_Porto wrote:Unbelievable, a game with a final score of 97-94 you have two players going for 8-27 and 8-25.

This team continues to have characters that only care about their personal numbers and where is the coaching staff to hold these guys accountable for this?

How can you shoot so much with such low efficiency?

What the hell?


The whole team shot terribly, Shake and NAW shot a combined 2-10, Reid shot 3-8 (37.5%), Anderson 3/9 (33.33%) Rudy was the only one that shot it at 50%. It sucks, we move on and hopefully Jaden is back soon so NAW can take the bench minutes. I would have given Brown a few more minutes and some looks, and maybe even given little Jmac a shot out there.
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Post#156 » by KGdaBom » Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:29 pm

Note30 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Did you watch the game?

Yes. I watched us miss shot after shot after shot. If we had shot really, really bad say 40% instead of what we did we would have won with ease. The one and only reason for the loss was the horrific shooting.


So no other factors other than the actual output of poor shooting are attributable to this loss? Let's say for example, shot selection?

If we had made 40% of our shots we would have won with ease. It was the shooting.
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Post#157 » by TimberKat » Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:31 pm

Note30 wrote:
Merc_Porto wrote:Unbelievable, a game with a final score of 97-94 you have two players going for 8-27 and 8-25.

This team continues to have characters that only care about their personal numbers and where is the coaching staff to hold these guys accountable for this?

How can you shoot so much with such low efficiency?

What the hell?


Did you watch the game? We have no offense. Like we ran maybe the same 3 plays over and over. Most of the issue with the ball stopping came from a lack of players moving, not just the lack of ball movement. NAW and Conley were both parked on the corner wings while Ant and KAT sat up top and Ant, KAT, and Rudy just ran the same bored floppy screen action over and over. If Ant started off the possession he often passed it to KAT either at the top of the 3 or on the high post, Rudy would crash to the dunkers spot, and he would try to go one on one.

If the coach didn't see this he must have been at the concession stand.

We don't have any semblance of an offense how are guys supposed to do anything else?

For now, I am going to chalk this one up as Finch willing to give up a game until they get the basic offense right. I think they need to move Towns closer in to run other offense sets.
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Post#158 » by Note30 » Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:41 pm

Domejandro wrote:To be fair, Jaden McDaniels’ cutting and ability to hit an open jumper will be exceptionally important. I think our facilitating situation is a real problem, though.


The facilitation issues stem from a lack of second options in a set. Our facilitators whether it be NAW, Anderson, Milton or Conley don't have multiple choices in any setup.

There's a deeper issue here and it's with the playbook.

But yes, here's to hoping McDaniels can hit those open threes and recognize backdoors.
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Post#159 » by Note30 » Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:42 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Note30 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Yes. I watched us miss shot after shot after shot. If we had shot really, really bad say 40% instead of what we did we would have won with ease. The one and only reason for the loss was the horrific shooting.


So no other factors other than the actual output of poor shooting are attributable to this loss? Let's say for example, shot selection?

If we had made 40% of our shots we would have won with ease. It was the shooting.



You didn't answer my question.
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Post#160 » by Zeno » Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:51 pm

It is amazing how different the atmosphere is here than on the Raps board, though I get it. It was a three point game with two outlier shooting performances by both teams. I think you guys are going to have a great year. Most teams in the league don’t have the defenders or size the Raptors do to match up either.
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