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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#121 » by CrimsonCrew » Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:55 pm

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Trent got listed as doubtful. O-line play could get ugly Monday night without him out there.
Deebo is out, and chatter is he might not be back until after the bye. In that case he'd miss 2 games.
CMC is questionable.

In stark contrast to the past handful of years, 9ers have been pretty fortunate with injuries this season up until last week. Was just a matter of time until the injury bug came back into town. Unfortunately its decided to bite a couple of the most vital players at the same time.


This team needs to learn to deal with adversity, and this is a great time for it. The Vikings are a bad team missing their best player. We need to be able to beat them even without Trent, CMC, and Deebo.



I mean sure, I agree.

Still, that needing to face adversity mantra didn't work out very well last week. And that was with them having a guy freshly signed off the practice squad, playing QB for them.

Definitely can't look past Minnesota, even without Jefferson. Vikings are going to amped up to play a top tier team at home for Monday Night Football. I can also certainly see a scenario of Danielle Hunter murdering McKivitz and/or Moore on a consistent basis.


Last week was a little different. Weather game against a really good, rested D at home. Their offense didn't do much. Our offense should still be able to function with Aiyuk, Kittle, and Mason/Mitchell. Trent is probably the biggest loss because the drop-off to him is so great. Obviously losing CMC and Deebo is also big as they're such unique players, but this is a team we should be able to beat without doing anything all that tricky.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#122 » by thesack12 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:23 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
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This team needs to learn to deal with adversity, and this is a great time for it. The Vikings are a bad team missing their best player. We need to be able to beat them even without Trent, CMC, and Deebo.



I mean sure, I agree.

Still, that needing to face adversity mantra didn't work out very well last week. And that was with them having a guy freshly signed off the practice squad, playing QB for them.

Definitely can't look past Minnesota, even without Jefferson. Vikings are going to amped up to play a top tier team at home for Monday Night Football. I can also certainly see a scenario of Danielle Hunter murdering McKivitz and/or Moore on a consistent basis.


Last week was a little different. Weather game against a really good, rested D at home. Their offense didn't do much. Our offense should still be able to function with Aiyuk, Kittle, and Mason/Mitchell. Trent is probably the biggest loss because the drop-off to him is so great. Obviously losing CMC and Deebo is also big as they're such unique players, but this is a team we should be able to beat without doing anything all that tricky.


I think you are under-estimating what Cleveland's offense did last week.

While the scoreboard shows they only scored 19 points, they had a long TD nullified due to a ticky tack holding penalty that really had no impact on the result of the play. That drive eventually resulted in a missed FG. So Cleveland easily could've put 26 on the board.

They had 120 more yards than SF had, which included 160 in the ground for an avg of 4.7 per carry. They averaged almost 1 full yard per play than SF did, 4.8 to 3.9. Of course a lot of this occurred because Cleveland's D was completely shutting down SF's offense. That said, SF is supposed to have a top flight defense as well, yet the Browns were having a lot of success against them.

They came up more clutch than SF's defense on a crucial 4th & 4 late in the 4th quarter with 9ers leading at the time. Then later leading a go ahead FG drive with less than 3 minutes left (granted they had help via a crap penalty call against Gipson.)

They managed to do all that despite losing the Turnover battle 2-1, and having a practice squad QB, backup RB, and missing an all pro G. 9ers are supposed to have a top shelf defense, so they should have shut down Cleveland's backup heavy offense.

As for Minnesota, they aren't a great team. And as you mentioned they will be missing their best player Monday night. Still they have gotten pretty unlucky at times this season, so they are probably a bit better than their record shows. Regardless, they aren't going to lay down. 9ers are going to have to earn the win, and will need to get some good production from a couple of guys that will be replacing important key players on offense.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#123 » by wco81 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:31 pm

Browns rushed for a healthy average too.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#124 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:57 pm

Bengals coming off a bye. Schedule-makers completely screwed us this year. It's not exactly a must-win, but a really important game all of the sudden. If we couldn't stop the Vikings without Jefferson, I don't like our chances against the Bengals.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#125 » by Samurai » Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:08 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Bengals coming off a bye. Schedule-makers completely screwed us this year. It's not exactly a must-win, but a really important game all of the sudden. If we couldn't stop the Vikings without Jefferson, I don't like our chances against the Bengals.

Facing Burrow and Chase, I really wish we had hired a Defensive Coordinator who was known as a great secondary coach and pass defense expert....
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#126 » by arich35 » Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:30 pm

Being at home, I think we will right the ship against the Bengals. Bengals haven't been very good and the Seahawks should have beaten them if Geno didn't screw up multiple times.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#127 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:10 pm

Purdy has a concussion. FML. May get to/have to see what Darnold can do. Man, what a disaster.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#128 » by Big J » Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:12 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Purdy has a concussion. FML. May get to/have to see what Darnold can do. Man, what a disaster.


This could be a blessing in disguise.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#129 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:20 pm

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CrimsonCrew wrote:Purdy has a concussion. FML. May get to/have to see what Darnold can do. Man, what a disaster.


This could be a blessing in disguise.


I guess we'll see. Not holding my breath on Darnold finally figuring it out.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#130 » by Dodub » Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:13 pm

This summer Kyle said that Darnold was the next Steve Young. Let’s hope that this wasn’t just a BS narrative to try to soften the blow of them inevitably getting rid of Lance.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#131 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:39 pm

Dodub wrote:This summer Kyle said that Darnold was the next Steve Young. Let’s hope that this wasn’t just a BS narrative to try to soften the blow of them inevitably getting rid of Lance.


Yeah, I think that's overstated a bit. He compared him in the sense that Steve Young struggled at first before putting it together. And that Darnold is physically talented, which is pretty undeniable, and that he's a good dude, basically. I can't speak to the latter, but it seems like people like Darnold, and he's a hard worker.

The problem is, some guys get it and some don't, and I don't think Darnold gets it. We'll see. But if beat reporters (not just Cohn) are questioning his ability to make reads in practice, it doesn't bode particularly well. Preseason was a very small sample size, but interspersed with some legit throws were a couple of pretty bad sacks. The INTs weren't his fault.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#132 » by Big J » Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:50 pm

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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#133 » by Pattersonca65 » Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:02 am

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Tin foil hat time
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#134 » by arich35 » Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:07 am

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Read on Twitter


You are ridiculous

"Some mild TBI and concussion symptoms may appear right away, while others may not appear for hours or days after the injury"

https://www.cdc.gov/traumaticbraininjury/concussion/symptoms.html#:~:text=Some%20mild%20TBI%20and%20concussion,or%20days%20after%20the%20injury.

Likely isn't a serious concussion, more than likely mild and started getting symptoms on the plane.

Just look at this hit

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Dirty hit at that
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#135 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:02 pm

Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:Purdy has a concussion. FML. May get to/have to see what Darnold can do. Man, what a disaster.


This could be a blessing in disguise.


I wanted to return to this for a moment. Would it really be a blessing in disguise? Let's say Darnold somehow ends up starting the rest of the year. He plays pretty well, we finish the season 11-6, host a playoff game, win one on the road where the D really shows up, and then we lose in the NFC Championship game. Darnold plays okay but not great.

Big J, what do we do with Darnold and our QB situation at that point?
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#136 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:03 pm

arich35 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Read on Twitter


You are ridiculous

"Some mild TBI and concussion symptoms may appear right away, while others may not appear for hours or days after the injury"

https://www.cdc.gov/traumaticbraininjury/concussion/symptoms.html#:~:text=Some%20mild%20TBI%20and%20concussion,or%20days%20after%20the%20injury.

Likely isn't a serious concussion, more than likely mild and started getting symptoms on the plane.

Just look at this hit

Read on Twitter


Dirty hit at that


I don't think you can really call any hit on a QB sneak dirty. The only part of the QB's body you can hit is the head, basically. Everything else is right behind the OL. If you don't want to expose your QB to it, run a different play.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#137 » by Big J » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:17 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:Purdy has a concussion. FML. May get to/have to see what Darnold can do. Man, what a disaster.


This could be a blessing in disguise.


I wanted to return to this for a moment. Would it really be a blessing in disguise? Let's say Darnold somehow ends up starting the rest of the year. He plays pretty well, we finish the season 11-6, host a playoff game, win one on the road where the D really shows up, and then we lose in the NFC Championship game. Darnold plays okay but not great.

Big J, what do we do with Darnold and our QB situation at that point?



If Darnold plays well enough to get us to the playoffs we should run it back with him. He’s more physically talented than any QB that Kyle has worked with besides RG3 and Trey, so he probably has enough untapped potential to be a legit option. If Darnold stinks then we’re still without a legit championship level QB, and we need to find one. Not saying we should dump Purdy, because even I think he’d be an awesome backup QB.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#138 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:37 pm

Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
This could be a blessing in disguise.


I wanted to return to this for a moment. Would it really be a blessing in disguise? Let's say Darnold somehow ends up starting the rest of the year. He plays pretty well, we finish the season 11-6, host a playoff game, win one on the road where the D really shows up, and then we lose in the NFC Championship game. Darnold plays okay but not great.

Big J, what do we do with Darnold and our QB situation at that point?



If Darnold plays well enough to get us to the playoffs we should run it back with him. He’s more physically talented than any QB that Kyle has worked with besides RG3 and Trey, so he probably has enough untapped potential to be a legit option. If Darnold stinks then we’re still without a legit championship level QB, and we need to find one. Not saying we should dump Purdy, because even I think he’d be an awesome backup QB.


Darnold is a FA. What contract are you giving him?
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#139 » by arich35 » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:38 pm

Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
This could be a blessing in disguise.


I wanted to return to this for a moment. Would it really be a blessing in disguise? Let's say Darnold somehow ends up starting the rest of the year. He plays pretty well, we finish the season 11-6, host a playoff game, win one on the road where the D really shows up, and then we lose in the NFC Championship game. Darnold plays okay but not great.

Big J, what do we do with Darnold and our QB situation at that point?



If Darnold plays well enough to get us to the playoffs we should run it back with him. He’s more physically talented than any QB that Kyle has worked with besides RG3 and Trey, so he probably has enough untapped potential to be a legit option. If Darnold stinks then we’re still without a legit championship level QB, and we need to find one. Not saying we should dump Purdy, because even I think he’d be an awesome backup QB.


:banghead: :banghead:
So the 2nd year guy has to win a championship for you to want him to be the QB going forward. But the guy who is in his 6th year with 60 games played just has to make the playoffs when the team is already 5-2 for you to be okay with him being the starter again next year.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#140 » by Big J » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:39 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
I wanted to return to this for a moment. Would it really be a blessing in disguise? Let's say Darnold somehow ends up starting the rest of the year. He plays pretty well, we finish the season 11-6, host a playoff game, win one on the road where the D really shows up, and then we lose in the NFC Championship game. Darnold plays okay but not great.

Big J, what do we do with Darnold and our QB situation at that point?



If Darnold plays well enough to get us to the playoffs we should run it back with him. He’s more physically talented than any QB that Kyle has worked with besides RG3 and Trey, so he probably has enough untapped potential to be a legit option. If Darnold stinks then we’re still without a legit championship level QB, and we need to find one. Not saying we should dump Purdy, because even I think he’d be an awesome backup QB.


Darnold is a FA. What contract are you giving him?


Probably something like the Geno Smith contract.

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