2023 Season

[Pattersonca65]

I wanted to return to this for a moment. Would it really be a blessing in disguise? Let's say Darnold somehow ends up starting the rest of the year. He plays pretty well, we finish the season 11-6, host a playoff game, win one on the road where the D really shows up, and then we lose in the NFC Championship game. Darnold plays okay but not great.

Big J, what do we do with Darnold and our QB situation at that point?

If Darnold plays well enough to get us to the playoffs we should run it back with him. He’s more physically talented than any QB that Kyle has worked with besides RG3 and Trey, so he probably has enough untapped potential to be a legit option. If Darnold stinks then we’re still without a legit championship level QB, and we need to find one. Not saying we should dump Purdy, because even I think he’d be an awesome backup QB.

So the 2nd year guy has to win a championship for you to want him to be the QB going forward. But the guy who is in his 6th year with 60 games played just has to make the playoffs when the team is already 5-2 for you to be okay with him being the starter again next year.

The definition of stupidity, lol

[Big J]

I wanted to return to this for a moment. Would it really be a blessing in disguise? Let's say Darnold somehow ends up starting the rest of the year. He plays pretty well, we finish the season 11-6, host a playoff game, win one on the road where the D really shows up, and then we lose in the NFC Championship game. Darnold plays okay but not great.

Big J, what do we do with Darnold and our QB situation at that point?

If Darnold plays well enough to get us to the playoffs we should run it back with him. He’s more physically talented than any QB that Kyle has worked with besides RG3 and Trey, so he probably has enough untapped potential to be a legit option. If Darnold stinks then we’re still without a legit championship level QB, and we need to find one. Not saying we should dump Purdy, because even I think he’d be an awesome backup QB.

So the 2nd year guy has to win a championship for you to want him to be the QB going forward. But the guy who is in his 6th year with 60 games played just has to make the playoffs when the team is already 5-2 for you to be okay with him being the starter again next year.

No, they both have to be “able” to win a championship. I just don’t think Purdy has the tools to do it. Darnold probably doesn’t either, but he has more to work with than Purdy. Purdy has way more to prove because we haven’t seen many guys with his measurables actually win a ring. Lots of guys who look like Darnold have won it.

[thesack12]

Purdy in concussion protocol this late in the week all but guarantees he won't be playing this week. Apparently, so far this season exactly ZERO players have played in the same week that they got placed in protocol. Purdy being put into this late, sure doesn't seem like he's going to be the first guy to buck that trend.

If there is another team that has been even close to the number of games that they haven't had their QB1 as the 9ers have in the last 5 years or so, I would like to know who.

Add that to Trent still not practicing, Deebo being out again, 9ers coming off a short week while Bengals are coming off a bye. All that adds up to a very real possibility that 9ers will be heading into the bye on a 3 game skid and 5-3 overall. That would feel especially bad considering they are like 2 plays away from sitting at 7-0 right now.

Defense has got to get their head out of their butts, because the offense is likely to be without QB1, starting LT, and a very versatile weapon.

As mentioned earlier Bengals will be well rested coming off a bye, which also allowed a lot of extra time for Burrow's calf to heal up, and they have been playing better overall as of late.

a 3 game losing streak could very easily be on the way

[Pattersonca65]

If Darnold plays well enough to get us to the playoffs we should run it back with him. He’s more physically talented than any QB that Kyle has worked with besides RG3 and Trey, so he probably has enough untapped potential to be a legit option. If Darnold stinks then we’re still without a legit championship level QB, and we need to find one. Not saying we should dump Purdy, because even I think he’d be an awesome backup QB.

So the 2nd year guy has to win a championship for you to want him to be the QB going forward. But the guy who is in his 6th year with 60 games played just has to make the playoffs when the team is already 5-2 for you to be okay with him being the starter again next year.

No, they both have to be “able” to win a championship. I just don’t think Purdy has the tools to do it. Darnold probably doesn’t either, but he has more to work with than Purdy. Purdy has way more to prove because we haven’t seen many guys with his measurables actually win a ring. Lots of guys who look like Darnold have won it.

And almost no one who has played like Darnold has won one.

[Harry Palmer]

Astonished Kyle said that about Wilks. Everything looks bad when you lose, but it really feels like the season script got completely flipped, wondering if the DC makes it through the season now. You just don’t throw your new coordinator under the bus with the press like that, it was either a major **** up or things are even worse behind the scenes than it looks.

[CrimsonCrew]

If Darnold plays well enough to get us to the playoffs we should run it back with him. He’s more physically talented than any QB that Kyle has worked with besides RG3 and Trey, so he probably has enough untapped potential to be a legit option. If Darnold stinks then we’re still without a legit championship level QB, and we need to find one. Not saying we should dump Purdy, because even I think he’d be an awesome backup QB.

Darnold is a FA. What contract are you giving him?

Probably something like the Geno Smith contract.

A nice thought, but Darnold is seven years younger than Smith and didn't have six years in the wilderness to lower his value. From 2019-2021, Geno never made more than $1.2 million for the Hawks, and fully half of his 2022 salary was incentives ($3.5 million base, but he was coming in as the starter that year). Darnold is signed for $4.5 million as the backup. Geno was the 39th pick in the draft with questions about his ceiling. Darnold was the 3rd pick with no questions about his physical talent. In this scenario, he's not going to sign for what Geno did.

[CrimsonCrew]

Astonished Kyle said that about Wilks. Everything looks bad when you lose, but it really feels like the season script got completely flipped, wondering if the DC makes it through the season now. You just don’t throw your new coordinator under the bus with the press like that, it was either a major **** up or things are even worse behind the scenes than it looks.

I mean, that play call at the end of the half was maybe the worst defensive call I've ever seen in four decades of watching football. Big risk, no discernible reward, and it cost us seven points and any hint of momentum in a game we ultimately lost by 5.

On top of that, a week after he went 21 of 31 for 181 yards and one TD while missing his top receiving option, Cousins went 35 of 45 for 378 yards, two TDs and an INT. And he played a decent chunk without his top two receiving options. It's pretty inexcusable with this roster.

[Harry Palmer]

Astonished Kyle said that about Wilks. Everything looks bad when you lose, but it really feels like the season script got completely flipped, wondering if the DC makes it through the season now. You just don’t throw your new coordinator under the bus with the press like that, it was either a major **** up or things are even worse behind the scenes than it looks.

I mean, that play call at the end of the half was maybe the worst defensive call I've ever seen in four decades of watching football. Big risk, no discernible reward, and it cost us seven points and any hint of momentum in a game we ultimately lost by 5.

On top of that, a week after he went 21 of 31 for 181 yards and one TD while missing his top receiving option, Cousins went 35 of 45 for 378 yards, two TDs and an INT. And he played a decent chunk without his top two receiving options. It's pretty inexcusable with this roster.

I’m not at all arguing against his take on the call, just his talking about it with the press like that. Imo they are either very comfortable or very uncomfortable together.

[Samurai]

Astonished Kyle said that about Wilks. Everything looks bad when you lose, but it really feels like the season script got completely flipped, wondering if the DC makes it through the season now. You just don’t throw your new coordinator under the bus with the press like that, it was either a major **** up or things are even worse behind the scenes than it looks.

I mean, that play call at the end of the half was maybe the worst defensive call I've ever seen in four decades of watching football. Big risk, no discernible reward, and it cost us seven points and any hint of momentum in a game we ultimately lost by 5.

On top of that, a week after he went 21 of 31 for 181 yards and one TD while missing his top receiving option, Cousins went 35 of 45 for 378 yards, two TDs and an INT. And he played a decent chunk without his top two receiving options. It's pretty inexcusable with this roster.

I’m not at all arguing against his take on the call, just his talking about it with the press like that. Imo they are either very comfortable or very uncomfortable together.

Given how much poorer our defense has been this season despite having largely the same guys as last season, I think it would be entirely possible and realistic that Shanahan would not be satisfied with Wilks' performance thus far this season.

[Harry Palmer]

I mean, that play call at the end of the half was maybe the worst defensive call I've ever seen in four decades of watching football. Big risk, no discernible reward, and it cost us seven points and any hint of momentum in a game we ultimately lost by 5.

On top of that, a week after he went 21 of 31 for 181 yards and one TD while missing his top receiving option, Cousins went 35 of 45 for 378 yards, two TDs and an INT. And he played a decent chunk without his top two receiving options. It's pretty inexcusable with this roster.

I’m not at all arguing against his take on the call, just his talking about it with the press like that. Imo they are either very comfortable or very uncomfortable together.

Given how much poorer our defense has been this season despite having largely the same guys as last season, I think it would be entirely possible and realistic that Shanahan would not be satisfied with Wilks' performance thus far this season.

Agreed, but just 2 games ago we were thinking the opposite. **** went bad fast.

[CrimsonCrew]

I’m not at all arguing against his take on the call, just his talking about it with the press like that. Imo they are either very comfortable or very uncomfortable together.

Given how much poorer our defense has been this season despite having largely the same guys as last season, I think it would be entirely possible and realistic that Shanahan would not be satisfied with Wilks' performance thus far this season.

Agreed, but just 2 games ago we were thinking the opposite. **** went bad fast.

I don't necessarily agree with that. We struggled against the Rams. The Cards made things interesting for a bit. The Giants and Steelers are just plain bad on offense. Other than the Cowboys game, I don't think our D has looked great this year.

[CrimsonCrew]

Astonished Kyle said that about Wilks. Everything looks bad when you lose, but it really feels like the season script got completely flipped, wondering if the DC makes it through the season now. You just don’t throw your new coordinator under the bus with the press like that, it was either a major **** up or things are even worse behind the scenes than it looks.

I mean, that play call at the end of the half was maybe the worst defensive call I've ever seen in four decades of watching football. Big risk, no discernible reward, and it cost us seven points and any hint of momentum in a game we ultimately lost by 5.

On top of that, a week after he went 21 of 31 for 181 yards and one TD while missing his top receiving option, Cousins went 35 of 45 for 378 yards, two TDs and an INT. And he played a decent chunk without his top two receiving options. It's pretty inexcusable with this roster.

I’m not at all arguing against his take on the call, just his talking about it with the press like that. Imo they are either very comfortable or very uncomfortable together.

Yeah, Kyle doesn't really go in for the coach speak. He'll tell you what he's thinking most of the time.

[Big J]

So the 2nd year guy has to win a championship for you to want him to be the QB going forward. But the guy who is in his 6th year with 60 games played just has to make the playoffs when the team is already 5-2 for you to be okay with him being the starter again next year.

No, they both have to be “able” to win a championship. I just don’t think Purdy has the tools to do it. Darnold probably doesn’t either, but he has more to work with than Purdy. Purdy has way more to prove because we haven’t seen many guys with his measurables actually win a ring. Lots of guys who look like Darnold have won it.

And almost no one who has played like Darnold has won one.

Steve Young.

[Pattersonca65]

No, they both have to be “able” to win a championship. I just don’t think Purdy has the tools to do it. Darnold probably doesn’t either, but he has more to work with than Purdy. Purdy has way more to prove because we haven’t seen many guys with his measurables actually win a ring. Lots of guys who look like Darnold have won it.

And almost no one who has played like Darnold has won one.

Steve Young.

Not even remotely the same

[Big J]

And almost no one who has played like Darnold has won one.

Steve Young.

Not even remotely the same

Kyle himself made the comparison.

[CrimsonCrew]

Purdy is practicing. Hopefully that's a good sign.

[Harry Palmer]

Steve Young.

Not even remotely the same

Kyle himself made the comparison.

And the world reacted.

[arich35]

Purdy is practicing. Hopefully that's a good sign.

The fact that he is out there is probably good news. It was probably a minor concussion and maybe being in a plane with the pressure it caused some symptoms and he hasn't had any since.

[Big J]

Purdy is practicing. Hopefully that's a good sign.

The fact that he is out there is probably good news. It was probably a minor concussion and maybe being in a plane with the pressure it caused some symptoms and he hasn't had any since.

We shouldn’t be rooting for him to play if he had any kind of concussion. Look at what happened to Tua last year when he had back to back concussions. It’s nothing to mess around with. This offense practically runs itself, so the QB is less important to the offense than with other teams.

[Pattersonca65]

Purdy is practicing. Hopefully that's a good sign.

The fact that he is out there is probably good news. It was probably a minor concussion and maybe being in a plane with the pressure it caused some symptoms and he hasn't had any since.

We shouldn’t be rooting for him to play if he had any kind of concussion. Look at what happened to Tua last year when he had back to back concussions. It’s nothing to mess around with. This offense practically runs itself, so the QB is less important to the offense than with other teams.

This is utter nonsense