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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (1-0) at Portland Trail Blazers (0-1) - 10pm 

Post#321 » by JojoSlimbiid » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:20 am

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SOUL wrote:The "by committee" mantra he preaches annoys me, especially how it manifests itself in rotations and usage. That's why I harp on it.


Whatever helps us win is what I want. If that means Paolo is double and triple teamed like last game and not taking many shots but playing well, I'm fine with it.

In an ideal world we're winning off the back of Wagner/Banchero every game, but that ain't the real world lol


Its a weird dynamic. It feels like people would be happy having Franz and Paolo take 50 shots every game, regardless of if we win or not just as long as they can go to other places and talk about how great our core is or whatever.
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Post#322 » by ibraheim718 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:20 am

SloNick Russia wrote:Ingles didn't do **** last game yet got 5 assists in the boxscore, do not overreact

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He looks cooked.
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Post#323 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:20 am

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ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:He was interviewed during FIBA and they asked about his injury, he said it isn’t going to get worse and he has to ply through it. I’m assuming they aren’t going the surgery route.


I mean at this point it's been like six weeks since the World Cup ended. Whatever he had, provided it wasn't a torn ligament that would ONLY heal with surgery, should have healed by now.

He said during training camp that it is still bothering him.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (1-0) at Portland Trail Blazers (0-1) - 10pm 

Post#324 » by eyriq » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:21 am

SloNick Russia wrote:Ingles didn't do **** last game yet got 5 assists in the boxscore, do not overreact

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Yeah, I'm quietly over here liking what he's trying to do out there. He just seems a bit rusty. Could be age, could be ramp up time.
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Post#325 » by SOUL » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:21 am

ibraheim718 wrote:The rotations are too rigid for my liking. He lacks feel. But just my opinion which means nothing.


It was like this last year a bit too until later on, but from the perspective of managing a team, going full out strict 9 man rotation from the beginning will ruffle some feathers, which trust me, would always have someone staggered. It's also good to see what works and what doesn't work. Again, I only mind if rotations are wonky in 2nd halves.

The issue of staggering means less Wagner-Banchero time together, so there's a decision there to be made as well. I personally like Wagner + bench unit stuff more than leaving Banchero in longer, so maybe bringing Ingles in sooner (when he's not trash) might be a play to make.
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Post#326 » by ibraheim718 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:21 am

JojoSlimbiid wrote:
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Whatever helps us win is what I want. If that means Paolo is double and triple teamed like last game and not taking many shots but playing well, I'm fine with it.

In an ideal world we're winning off the back of Wagner/Banchero every game, but that ain't the real world lol


Its a weird dynamic. It feels like people would be happy having Franz and Paolo take 50 shots every game, regardless of if we win or not just as long as they can go to other places and talk about how great our core is or whatever.


That's not it at all. They can have an impact with reserves in other ways than just shooting.
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Post#327 » by SloNick Russia » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:22 am

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SloNick Russia wrote:Ingles didn't do **** last game yet got 5 assists in the boxscore, do not overreact

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He looks cooked.
He never was nither athletic or fast, just a smart player and good shooter, he will be fine

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Post#328 » by JF5 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:23 am

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ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:He was interviewed during FIBA and they asked about his injury, he said it isn’t going to get worse and he has to ply through it. I’m assuming they aren’t going the surgery route.


I mean at this point it's been like six weeks since the World Cup ended. Whatever he had, provided it wasn't a torn ligament that would ONLY heal with surgery, should have healed by now.


Well Fiba ending/Training camp isn't too far apart. If he took the surgery route. He would've missed a few months. ALSO, going with surgery might affect shooting ability. So going the natural route for now makes sense.
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Post#329 » by Knightro » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:23 am

The main issue with the 2nd unit is that the Magic appear to have more confidence and faith in Ingles as a playmaker/shot creator for others than is probably warranted at this point.

He can still pass and make reads, but his legs just look so heavy.
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Post#330 » by Bensational » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:23 am

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Bensational wrote:Fultz with the extra pass to WCJ for the 3 before the buzzer. Beautiful stuff.


Well you knew he wasn't going to shoot it himself :lol:


The end result is still the same, a made 3. But somehow this becomes a criticism of Fultz…
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Post#331 » by KillMonger » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:24 am

SloNick Russia wrote:Ingles didn't do **** last game yet got 5 assists in the boxscore, do not overreact

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not overreacting but you'd think he'd give just a little bit more than just ball moving
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (1-0) at Portland Trail Blazers (0-1) - 10pm 

Post#332 » by Knightro » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:24 am

JF5 wrote:Well Fiba ending/Training camp isn't too far apart. If he took the surgery route. He would've missed a few months. ALSO, going with surgery might affect shooting ability. So going the natural route for now makes sense.


They just announced Simons is having thumb surgery today and he's only going to miss 4-6 weeks.

If surgery was legitimately on the table as a solution for Banchero, he should have gotten it done right after the World Cup. He might not have missed a game at all.
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Post#333 » by ibraheim718 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:24 am

SOUL wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:The rotations are too rigid for my liking. He lacks feel. But just my opinion which means nothing.


It was like this last year a bit too until later on, but from the perspective of managing a team, going full out strict 9 man rotation from the beginning will ruffle some feathers, which trust me, would always have someone staggered. It's also good to see what works and what doesn't work. Again, I only mind if rotations are wonky in 2nd halves.

The issue of staggering means less Wagner-Banchero time together, so there's a decision there to be made as well. I personally like Wagner + bench unit stuff more than leaving Banchero in longer, so maybe bringing Ingles in sooner (when he's not trash) might be a play to make.


Yeah it's early. Ingles is worrisome though and Harris refuses to mix it up. A lot of pressure on Cole though. Anyway the youngsters came in and were able to turn the pressure back up and take control of the game. Let's see what happens in the first half of the fourth quarter. If he comes back with the starters at the 6 minute mark again with the game close it might not be the best decision.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (1-0) at Portland Trail Blazers (0-1) - 10pm 

Post#334 » by Knightro » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:25 am

Bensational wrote:
Knightro wrote:
Bensational wrote:Fultz with the extra pass to WCJ for the 3 before the buzzer. Beautiful stuff.


Well you knew he wasn't going to shoot it himself :lol:


The end result is still the same, a made 3. But somehow this becomes a criticism of Fultz…


I thought the :lol: was enough to make you realize it was said in jest.

Guess not.
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Post#335 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:26 am

Knightro wrote:The main issue with the 2nd unit is that the Magic appear to have more confidence and faith in Ingles as a playmaker/shot creator for others than is probably warranted at this point.

He can still pass and make reads, but his legs just look so heavy.

It’s probably games like this that you want to put Caleb or Jett in for Ingles.
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Post#336 » by Knightro » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:26 am

Franz creates SO MUCH space with that stepback 3. It's a legit weapon for him now.
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Post#337 » by ChosenSavior » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:26 am

Franz is so good
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Post#338 » by eyriq » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:26 am

Oh baby
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Post#339 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:27 am

Franz is a very calm player.
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Post#340 » by thelead » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:27 am

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