Jaylen Brown Thread

[jirrit]

I was really really upset with Brown during this game. He kinda made up a bit for it towards the end but... careless turnovers, bad shot decision, etc.. He kept fighting though so that's something, for 300 million lol.

[jirrit]

White is at best a 14 ppg guy. I love the guy but let’s be real.

I clearly stated Jaylen is levels above him in scoring

You clearly said White is better than Brown and I couldn’t disagree more. The market ($300 million contract) and the NBA coaches/players/fans (all-star/all-NBA) agree with me. Your opinion is just not sane. Sorry.

When I'm picking a team I pick Derrick before JB in kinda every situation though.

[KillahGhostface]

JT and JB aren't Lebron-level type talents. They need a really good supporting cast around them to succeed. Even Jokic needed a Gordon type on his team. Giannis wouldn't have won without Brook Lopez, Jrue, and/or Middleton.

[zoyathedestroya]

JT and JB aren't Lebron-level type talents. They need a really good supporting cast around them to succeed. Even Jokic needed a Gordon type on his team. Giannis wouldn't have won without Brook Lopez, Jrue, and/or Middleton.

Pardon CG’s idiocy. I think he meant Tatum isn’t on the level of Lebron. And that Embiid can win as much with or without Tobias Harris.

[sam_I_am]

I clearly stated Jaylen is levels above him in scoring

You clearly said White is better than Brown and I couldn’t disagree more. The market ($300 million contract) and the NBA coaches/players/fans (all-star/all-NBA) agree with me. Your opinion is just not sane. Sorry.

When I'm picking a team I pick Derrick before JB in kinda every situation though.

It’s funny to think that 2 years ago 90% of the board was crying about the pick swap and how he couldn’t shoot. He is a very good role player/5th starter and in fact is so good as a 2 way combo guard that the team could consider trading Brown - for a monster return - if it needs to because of Tatum contract and new cap rules.

JB is a 6-7 220 lb. 2 way small forward with lottery pick physical ability and length, ie. the most desired NBA commodity right now. If you want to start your team with a 6-4 190 lb combo guard with mid to late first round talent….that’s fine. I’d be happy to take JB, warts and all.

[BK_2020]

You can't just look at physical tools and decide player A is better at certain things than player B because Player A is taller and weighs more. Maybe when you are drafting, you don't have a body of work to compare and you just have to project into the future, but with Jaylen and White, everyone knows White is a better defender both out in the perimeter and near the rim.

[FeedReed]

If KP is our second best player we are getting knocked out in first round. I like him but he isn’t a winner like JB. Sure, JB still has some ugly warts to his game but he puts in the work and he doesn’t turtle when punched in the face.

i think it's hard to say that when what we saw game 1 from zings as a celtic was about as clutch as anything we've seen since IT's magical season. 2 games so far this season they won down the stretch, that they likely would've lost in other recent years. brown has faults but he is a dog and i believe he's a winner too. the only one i question is tatum. he may be the "chosen" one, but has not proven to be a winner yet imo. and he makes just as many bad decisions as brown does.

[KillahGhostface]

Yeah Zinger game one of the regular season was more clutch than the countless massive playoff elimination games Tatum has had. Man we haven’t had that since IT.

Also, if Porzingis is our second best player, that means he’s playing at an extremely high level, so saying we’d be knocked out in the first round is nonsensical.

Also again, this shouldn’t have been a thread.

[exculpatory]

Sorry, Sam.
I would move him & his undeserved obscene salary for the right package including a quality starter + much needed DEPTH in less than a millisecond, & for Biid in a millimicronanosecond.
I totally agree with BK_2020 & MANY MANY OTHERS.
While he is here, I want 7 to play to his UNDENIABLE elite offensive strengths, & minimize his truly awful basketball instincts, guaranteed obligatory & excessive brain dead TOs, ball handling, guaranteed brain dead D periodically, & too often selfishness (1 on 3 nightmares) & excessive shooting. He ain’t changing in his eighth year. Let him go & fail to be a 1A or 2 on another team. (And then he can run for Congress & team up w the Squad or become a professional boxer or a synchronized underwater Olympic swimmer partnered with Doris Burke).

DWhite & Jrue I are literally invaluable additions & gems.
JT occasionally plays selfishly & too sloppily, but he has clearly demonstrated he is an All World baller on BOTH ends. I love that he apparently FINALLY spent teaching time with Truth last summer & is so much stronger now.
Zinger is a great fit as well.
We need depth.
Al is very limited now & Pritch/Hauser are not rotation players on a NBA Championship team.

[TatumMVP]

So much hate for Jaylen, over and over again.

[Fierce1]

So much hate for Jaylen, over and over again.

Once the Cs win Banner 18 the hate will dissipate.

[hugepatsfan]

If you didn’t sign him he’d be an unhappy star player here on an expiring contract. We’ve seen time and time again that exact situation destroy team chemistry. You could have traded him to avoid that, but you’d get pennies the dollar for him as unhappy expiring player. You wouldn’t get a package that made you better this year.

If it’s not a good situation or we just need another shakeup, you trade him in the offseason. Brown on a 5 year deal will hold great value even if overpaid because 27 ppg wing scorers are rare. Re-signing him was the no brainer move because it puts you in better position this year and preserves ability to trade him next year if it doesn’t work out well.

[bigboi]

We should trade him for Trae Young.

Oh lord here we go.

I’ve been saying this since last season. I like JB but he’s strictly an iso player with no playmaking skills. It’s hard to run an actual offense with this. Celtics’ offense is literally let’s take turns doing isos and if someone’s open, we’ll pass it.

We should be running pick and pops, pick and rolls, other plays to get folks open. If the team doesn’t embrace Jrue being the playmaker that he is and running actual plays then we will never reach our full potential. We objectively have better offensive players this year so why are we going through the same problems where the offense just dies?

[JaMarco]

Also, if Porzingis is our second best player, that means he’s playing at an extremely high level, so saying we’d be knocked out in the first round is nonsensical.

Not really, the highest level Porzingis has ever shown he can play at is not the 2nd best player on a championship team.

[KillahGhostface]

Also, if Porzingis is our second best player, that means he’s playing at an extremely high level, so saying we’d be knocked out in the first round is nonsensical.

Not really, the highest level Porzingis has ever shown he can play at is not the 2nd best player on a championship team.

Um actually, the level he’s played at since last year is absolutely second best player on a title team caliber.

Raw stats, advanced stats, on/off, doesn’t matter, they all show the same thing.

[JaMarco]

Also, if Porzingis is our second best player, that means he’s playing at an extremely high level, so saying we’d be knocked out in the first round is nonsensical.

Not really, the highest level Porzingis has ever shown he can play at is not the 2nd best player on a championship team.

Um actually, the level he’s played at since last year is absolutely second best player on a title team caliber.

Raw stats, advanced stats, on/off, doesn’t matter, they all show the same thing.

He's a great add but I think you're overrating him a bit. There's a reason why he's had zero success in the playoffs.

[JaMarco]

We should trade him for Trae Young.

Oh lord here we go.

I’ve been saying this since last season. I like JB but he’s strictly an iso player with no playmaking skills. It’s hard to run an actual offense with this. Celtics’ offense is literally let’s take turns doing isos and if someone’s open, we’ll pass it.

Which is exactly why ATL would never trade Young for him

[Hal14]

Sorry, Sam.
I would move him & his undeserved obscene salary for the right package including a quality starter + much needed DEPTH in less than a millisecond, & for Biid in a millimicronanosecond.
I totally agree with BK_2020 & MANY MANY OTHERS.
While he is here, I want 7 to play to his UNDENIABLE elite offensive strengths, & minimize his truly awful basketball instincts, guaranteed obligatory & excessive brain dead TOs, ball handling, guaranteed brain dead D periodically, & too often selfishness (1 on 3 nightmares) & excessive shooting. He ain’t changing in his eighth year. Let him go & fail to be a 1A or 2 on another team. (And then he can run for Congress & team up w the Squad or become a professional boxer or a synchronized underwater Olympic swimmer partnered with Doris Burke).

Oh lighten up. "millimicronanosecond" lol, so dramatic.

We won the game, and JB was a HUGE reason why. We're 2-0 and the favorites to win the title.

Just enjoy the season.

[exculpatory]

Sorry, Sam.
I would move him & his undeserved obscene salary for the right package including a quality starter + much needed DEPTH in less than a millisecond, & for Biid in a millimicronanosecond.
I totally agree with BK_2020 & MANY MANY OTHERS.
While he is here, I want 7 to play to his UNDENIABLE elite offensive strengths, & minimize his truly awful basketball instincts, guaranteed obligatory & excessive brain dead TOs, ball handling, guaranteed brain dead D periodically, & too often selfishness (1 on 3 nightmares) & excessive shooting. He ain’t changing in his eighth year. Let him go & fail to be a 1A or 2 on another team. (And then he can run for Congress & team up w the Squad or become a professional boxer or a synchronized underwater Olympic swimmer partnered with Doris Burke).

Oh lighten up. "millimicronanosecond" lol, so dramatic.

We won the game, and JB was a HUGE reason why. We're 2-0 and the favorites to win the title.

Just enjoy the season.

I was not talking about the game specifically.

Talking in general & following up on what the OP said and multiple others wrote in agreement.

Respond to them - not me.

[165bows]

If you didn’t sign him he’d be an unhappy star player here on an expiring contract. We’ve seen time and time again that exact situation destroy team chemistry. You could have traded him to avoid that, but you’d get pennies the dollar for him as unhappy expiring player. You wouldn’t get a package that made you better this year.

If it’s not a good situation or we just need another shakeup, you trade him in the offseason. Brown on a 5 year deal will hold great value even if overpaid because 27 ppg wing scorers are rare. Re-signing him was the no brainer move because it puts you in better position this year and preserves ability to trade him next year if it doesn’t work out well.

I’d add to that that they are in much better position to do so if they decide that’s the move. The kind of returns we looked at last season would have been a mess on the old team.

This team isn’t hamstrung being desperate for scoring like last year’s team was.