Celtics Defeat Heat, Advance to NBA Finals! Victory Cigar vs MIA 10/27

[chrisab123]

Celtics would have lost this game last season 100%.

Definitely. Jrue wasn't fazed by Miami.

[Hal14]

Hauser has had plenty of chances in pre season and 1st two games and he’s not giving us anything

If Hauser continues to be ineffective then that will open the door for Svi or Lamar.

He has held his own defensively, especially last night when he did a nice job locking up Butler on that play where Butler tried to go iso on him. He didn't really make any mistakes.

And Hauser was 1/2 from 3 last night (50%). The 3 he hit was at a key moment, when we were making a run to get back in the game after we were down by 11.

He didn't take many shots but that's because he's usually on the floor. with a bunch of 20 PPG scorers so he wasn't needed to score much.

You're not gonna have a bunch of studs for 7th/8th men, especially when your top 6 are *this* good.

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From this angle, it turns out that Holiday and White COMBINED to defend a Butler run-out. Holiday tipped the pass -- a classic Love outlet -- slowing the play long enough for White to get the block.

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[Smart2Nesmith43]

Only 80 more games of people confusing the bench players not taking a bunch of shots away from far more talented scorers with not doing their job properly. LFG.

[Fierce1]

Hauser has had plenty of chances in pre season and 1st two games and he’s not giving us anything

If Hauser continues to be ineffective then that will open the door for Svi or Lamar.

He has held his own defensively, especially last night when he did a nice job locking up Butler on that play where Butler tried to go iso on him. He didn't really make any mistakes.

And Hauser was 1/2 from 3 last night (50%). The 3 he hit was at a key moment, when we were making a run to get back in the game after we were down by 11.

He didn't take many shots but that's because he's usually on the floor. with a bunch of 20 PPG scorers so he wasn't needed to score much.

You're not gonna have a bunch of studs for 7th/8th men, especially when your top 6 are *this* good.

I'm a fan of Hauser.

All I'm saying is if there will be a stretch of games where Sam is ineffeftive, Svi or Lamar will get a chance.

[hugepatsfan]

Hauser and Pritchard aren’t really shot creators. Especially Hauser. Pritchard maybe could be some of that but he won’t be here based on the better options we had. Their offense is pretty much just spot up 3s which may or may not come in a given night and may come in bunches or not at all.

I don’t think tracking Hauser’s or Protchard’s point totals game to game is going to really paint an accurate picture of them. That’s not what you’re looking for. You want to look at them over a long period of time and see that they’re hitting close to 40% on 3s and then not be a total liability on defense.

Freaking out because Hauser goes 1 for 5 (20%) in a specific game instead of 2 for 5 (40%) or because he only took 2 shots in a certain game just doesn’t make sense.

[Joshyjess]

I just watched the game again, and I can't believe how bad Miami is at flopping. That fourth quarter there were at least 9 really, really bad flops by the Heat. They were at the Joel Embiid level of flopping. If the NBA doesn't review this game, and hand out some flopping fouls against the Heat, then it proves that their new anti-flopping policy is as big a joke as people thought it would be.
The funniest one (or most pathetic) was by of course the King of Flops Kyle Lowry. Near the very end of the game when Brown got the rebound Lowry threw his head back and grabbed his nose like he got hit really hard, looked at the ref, saw that nothing was going to come of it, and quickly acted like nothing had happened - kind of like "not going to buy it? Oh well"

Anway, on a more positive note, the C's still haven't played really well, but it's great to see how many different guys they can depend on to win games for them. They've also already defeated two of last years top 8 teams (playoff wise). Not a bad way to start the season, especially when there's still so much improvement to be had.

[djFan71]

White was amazing. Jrue's block was amazing, then White topped it.
I gave Brissett a vote for fun for his effort level. JB found his places on offense.
Team as a whole still a little turnover prone. Some due to unfamiliarity, some just inherent at this point.
KP hasn't been in big games much. Some of his fouls and that tech are things you just can't do in tight games. But, nothing to worry about at this point. Pushing the "Al" button when needed is a great luxury.

Pritchard and Brissett rounding out the top 8 is my favorite. Though once Hauser knocks down a bunch of moonballs in a few games, I'll jump back on his wagon too.

Overall, great start to the season. 2 wins against tough squads - physically and mentally - and we pulled out wins in the 4th.

[ConstableGeneva]

Joe called two timeouts in the 1Q. For those keeping track. Halfway thru the period after Miami had an 8-3 minirun then soon after (not two minutes have passed) cos Heat went on another 9-2 run lol. Timeouts also weren't his only tool to stem the tide. Inserting Brissett gave the Cs a much-needed energy boost and help avoid a game 3 like collapse of epic proportions. He was also quick to pull Hauser after he ran through Bam in a handoff, reinserting JB in the 4th. Brown then scored 7 of Celtics next 8 points to keep Miami at bay.

[return2glory]

Good win.

VC to White and Jrue. Brown with a close 3rd.

White was the star of the game on offense and defense. Jrue had a really good all around game.

Tatum was also good.

KP and Al were solid. 10 rebounds by Al off the bench.

Brissett was active on the boards in limited minutes and got us a few extra possessions.

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Only 80 more games of people confusing the bench players not taking a bunch of shots away from far more talented scorers with not doing their job properly. LFG.

96+

[return2glory]

I'm not going to tell people how to vote, but Brown getting more votes than Jrue in this game? Come on.

White was the obvious choice and therefore got the most votes.

Brown and Jrue also both played well. But let's compare some stats.

Points: Brown scored 10 more points (27 vs 17) on 9 more shots.
Rebounds: Jrue had 10 to Brown's 6.
Assists: Jrue had 7 assists to only 1 TO. Brown had 1 assist and 4 TOs.

[Memokerobi]

Holiday's midrange game is such a game changer for us. He went in and got a high quality look near/in the paint whenever he wanted to. He passed up an open three with a minute and change to go when we were up 4 to go get a better look closer to the rim. Those kind of shots will be huge for us, especially in the clutch

[Memokerobi]

I'm not going to tell people how to vote, but Brown getting more votes than Jrue in this game? Come on.

White was the obvious choice and therefore got the most votes.

Brown and Jrue also both played well. But let's compare some stats.

Points: Brown scored 10 more points (27 vs 17) on 9 more shots.
Rebounds: Jrue had 10 to Brown's 6.
Assists: Jrue had 7 assists to only 1 TO. Brown had 1 assist and 4 TOs.

I agree with you on the whole game but Jaylen turned it up big time the last 5-6 mins of the game so I went with him

[return2glory]

Yep, but it's not the only upgrade the Celtics made. So the improvement Cs are seeing isn't solely a case of Smart-to-Jrue. The addition of Porzingis is arguably more impactful since he's replacing an offensively-challenged and oft-injured Rob plus supplementing/supplanting an aging Horford. Celtics have never had a two-way big of KP's calibre since KG.

I'm done since I'm getting dizzy with this discussion.

Like I said with 3:18 remaining in the 4th, KP fouled out.

So we were able to see what the Cs could do when it was back to Al, JT, JB, White, and Jrue instead of Smart.

Last night was a sobering game to me regarding KP. He was the only Celtic with a net negative (-12). Bam had his way with him and exposed some of his short comings.

Exposed him how? It's not like KP is KG on defense. He was never known for his one on one defense.
Maybe this is news to Celtic fans and to Joe. But Joe will make adjustments when guarding Bam down the road. KP still changed a lot of Bam's shots. He got abused by Bam's quickness on several plays off the dribble.

[ConstableGeneva]

I'm not going to tell people how to vote, but Brown getting more votes than Jrue in this game? Come on.

White was the obvious choice and therefore got the most votes.

Brown and Jrue also both played well. But let's compare some stats.

Points: Brown scored 10 more points (27 vs 17) on 9 more shots.
Rebounds: Jrue had 10 to Brown's 6.
Assists: Jrue had 7 assists to only 1 TO. Brown had 1 assist and 4 TOs.

I agree with you on the whole game but Jaylen turned it up big time the last 5-6 mins of the game so I went with him

Yep I think it was mostly the 12 points he scored in the 4th once he was reinserted in the game with about 8 mins left. Teamed up with DWhite in finishing off the Heat. I did go with Jrue for second vote who had a better overall game and less mistakes.

[return2glory]

Like I said with 3:18 remaining in the 4th, KP fouled out.

So we were able to see what the Cs could do when it was back to Al, JT, JB, White, and Jrue instead of Smart.

Last night was a sobering game to me regarding KP. He was the only Celtic with a net negative (-12). Bam had his way with him and exposed some of his short comings.

True!

Bam was too fast for KP.

Al still the best option to guard Bam.

Hopefully Brad can get a good 3rd big man.

I want to see Stevens on Bam. Stevens could be our best player guarding Bam. He will bother Bam like Grant used to at times.
Joe will figure it out. Brissett will probably do a decent job at guarding Bam as well.
Joe is going to figure out sooner or later than he needs to find playing time for Stevens. Hopefully it's sooner than later.

[KillahGhostface]

Are we really using one game of +/- to develop any opinions? Goodness

We had three other starters who were barely positive, I’m worried about that.

Bam had 27 on a 50% TS lol, the Celtics did a good job on him.

[flintsky21]

Most guards are lucky to have 1 chasedown block in their entire career. White had 2 in one game. Insane.

[KamikazeK]

From this angle, it turns out that Holiday and White COMBINED to defend a Butler run-out. Holiday tipped the pass -- a classic Love outlet -- slowing the play long enough for White to get the block.

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Good point, that's pretty awesome. The benefits of having a true all-defensive team backcourt.