It Was Just Like Harry Potter... Except All the Wizards Died! Victory Cigar vs WAS 10/30

[captain green]

What can brown do for you?

[Shak_Celts]

It’s all fun and games til injuries hit as they seem to always do. No one wants them to have to win games but can we get 10 points out of the bench???? Barely got that in a quarter vs “some dudes” if not for svi and Lamar coming in.

[Hal14]

I swear, some of ya'll care more about garbage time than the part of the game that actually matters

My only real takeaway from garbage time tonight, is that I want to see more Lamar minutes - preferably meaningful mins, when he's out there with some of our top 6 guys.

And that's not even just based on tonight's game. As ya'll know I was high on him during the offseason, plus he looked good in preseason and looked good again tonight.

[Fierce1]

I'm not too worried about the bench.

Svi and Lamar are waiting for their chance.

Give the bench until the new year.

[Shak_Celts]

Again, the same people acting like this was fine are the same people crying when our bench was outscoring the league last season. Would have been a choke job if there were like 3 minutes left.

I want championship habits 1-15, haven’t seen it in the first 3 games.

Haven’t seen a champion without a couple key bench contributors yet. Let me know when you have.


I’m not saying don’t play them, I’m saying give everybody a fair shake. Don’t want to hear any of you crying about the bench in the playoffs because it doesn’t matter how great the first 6 are, you NEED at least 8-9 guys to be consistently solid. The garbage minutes are supposed to separate those bench players, not embarrass them.

Edit: fair shake: pitch and hauser didn’t drag down the starters, could have given the others at least half of the 4th to find their footing too. Lamar isn’t anything special but he has proven he can play good role in this league. Svi hasn’t been much over his career but he deserves a chance if you’re sitting there watching dudes turn it over and can’t score for a whole quarter.

[Triple M]

Everytime im out on Hauser he hits a shot and im right back in but it's frustrating as hell. If shooting is your 1 skill you gotta do better than 2 of 9

[Hal14]

I know he's a rookie and it's very unlikely he'll get any meaningful minutes, but I'd really like to see some Jordan Walsh minutes, especially on a blowout like today.

It's just a numbers game. We've got 14 guys on the roster and clearly he's 14th on the depth chart. You typically aren't gonna put 14 guys in a reg season game - even if there's garbage time.

He'll get a chance at some mins later in the season when there's injuries. And he'll develop in Maine. He's only 19 yrs old - he's more of a long term project.

[Hal14]

Everytime im out on Hauser he hits a shot and im right back in but it's frustrating as hell. If shooting is your 1 skill you gotta do better than 2 of 9

I agree to some extent but a lot of his missed shots were pretty heavily contested, and some were off the dribble. So his overall shot difficulty was fairly high.

It's not like all 9 shots were open shots off the catch.

Also, it's not like he's *just* a shooter. He has been a very solid defender in each of our 3 games so far.

[bucknersrevenge]

Again, the same people acting like this was fine are the same people crying when our bench was outscoring the league last season. Would have been a choke job if there were like 3 minutes left.

I want championship habits 1-15, haven’t seen it in the first 3 games.

Haven’t seen a champion without a couple key bench contributors yet. Let me know when you have.


I’m not saying don’t play them, I’m saying give everybody a fair shake. Don’t want to hear any of you crying about the bench in the playoffs because it doesn’t matter how great the first 6 are, you NEED at least 8-9 guys to be consistently solid. The garbage minutes are supposed to separate those bench players, not embarrass them.

Edit: fair shake: pitch and hauser didn’t drag down the starters, could have given the others at least half of the 4th to find their footing too. Lamar isn’t anything special but he has proven he can play good role in this league. Svi hasn’t been much over his career but he deserves a chance if you’re sitting there watching dudes turn it over and can’t score for a whole quarter.

They won by 19. And any choke job would still have led to the starters coming back in to close it out. Respectfully, I don't understand this argument because the premise is unprovable either way. As for championship habits 1-15, I'm sorry but that doesn't exist. Guys who are at the back ends of roster are there for a reason. I mean we're worried if this is gonna cost us a championship already. I mean...can we get to Game 4 first before we start panicking because of our 8th and 9th guys aren't playing well to start out?

Meanwhile, let's ignore that our Top 6 is dominant right now and we still haven't even fully figured out how to play with each other yet. There are levels to this and our offensive and defensive continuity still have levels to go. There really isn't much to complain about on this team.

[Homerclease]

Again, the same people acting like this was fine are the same people crying when our bench was outscoring the league last season. Would have been a choke job if there were like 3 minutes left.

I want championship habits 1-15, haven’t seen it in the first 3 games.

Haven’t seen a champion without a couple key bench contributors yet. Let me know when you have.


I’m not saying don’t play them, I’m saying give everybody a fair shake. Don’t want to hear any of you crying about the bench in the playoffs because it doesn’t matter how great the first 6 are, you NEED at least 8-9 guys to be consistently solid. The garbage minutes are supposed to separate those bench players, not embarrass them.

Edit: fair shake: pitch and hauser didn’t drag down the starters, could have given the others at least half of the 4th to find their footing too. Lamar isn’t anything special but he has proven he can play good role in this league. Svi hasn’t been much over his career but he deserves a chance if you’re sitting there watching dudes turn it over and can’t score for a whole quarter.

They won by 19. And any choke job would still have led to the starters coming back in to close it out. Respectfully, I don't understand this argument because the premise is unprovable either way. As for championship habits 1-15, I'm sorry but that doesn't exist. Guys who are at the back ends of roster are there for a reason. I mean we're worried if this is gonna cost us a championship already. I mean...can we get to Game 4 first before we start panicking because of our 8th and 9th guys aren't playing well to start out?

Meanwhile, let's ignore that our Top 6 is dominant right now and we still haven't even fully figured out how to play with each other yet. There are levels to this and our offensive and defensive continuity still have levels to go. There really isn't much to complain about on this team.

Everything is peachy right now when the top 6 is healthy and the bench is relegated to support roles. When the inevitable injuries happen and guys are going to be thrust into larger roles, well that’s where the concern comes in.

People are talking about how poor the bench played because there’s nothing else to discuss. The starters put on a clinic.

[Hal14]

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[bucknersrevenge]

Again, the same people acting like this was fine are the same people crying when our bench was outscoring the league last season. Would have been a choke job if there were like 3 minutes left.

I want championship habits 1-15, haven’t seen it in the first 3 games.

Haven’t seen a champion without a couple key bench contributors yet. Let me know when you have.


I’m not saying don’t play them, I’m saying give everybody a fair shake. Don’t want to hear any of you crying about the bench in the playoffs because it doesn’t matter how great the first 6 are, you NEED at least 8-9 guys to be consistently solid. The garbage minutes are supposed to separate those bench players, not embarrass them.

Edit: fair shake: pitch and hauser didn’t drag down the starters, could have given the others at least half of the 4th to find their footing too. Lamar isn’t anything special but he has proven he can play good role in this league. Svi hasn’t been much over his career but he deserves a chance if you’re sitting there watching dudes turn it over and can’t score for a whole quarter.

They won by 19. And any choke job would still have led to the starters coming back in to close it out. Respectfully, I don't understand this argument because the premise is unprovable either way. As for championship habits 1-15, I'm sorry but that doesn't exist. Guys who are at the back ends of roster are there for a reason. I mean we're worried if this is gonna cost us a championship already. I mean...can we get to Game 4 first before we start panicking because of our 8th and 9th guys aren't playing well to start out?

Meanwhile, let's ignore that our Top 6 is dominant right now and we still haven't even fully figured out how to play with each other yet. There are levels to this and our offensive and defensive continuity still have levels to go. There really isn't much to complain about on this team.

Everything is peachy right now when the top 6 is healthy and the bench is relegated to support roles. When the inevitable injuries happen and guys are going to be thrust into larger roles, well that’s where the concern comes in.

People are talking about how poor the bench played because there’s nothing else to discuss. The starters put on a clinic.

Could've ended the post right here. Nothing else to discuss?? You could try discussing, I don't know...how "everything is peachy right now"? Or are we not happy unless we're miserable?

[Jammer]

I normally don't post slaughters, but this season the coaching staff needs to figure out how to get contributions from their 6th thru 9th men, especially when the playoffs roll around. So, let's see who Joey's giving the minutes to, and if they really deserve them.
I just hope that Joe isn't too attached to anyone outside the Top 6, and that Joey just plays whoever is playing well each night.

An alternative perspective:

Pts. + Rebounds + (0.5 x Assists) + Steals + (0.5 x Blocks) - Missed FGs - (0.5 x Missed Free Throws) - Turnovers - (0.5 x Fouls)

+33 Jaylen Brown (32 minutes)
+30.5 Jayson Tatum (28 minutes)

+18 Kristaps Porzingis (24 minutes)
+15 Jrue Holiday (27 minutes)
+10 Al Horford (16 minutes)

+9 Derrick White (24 minutes)
+7.5 Sam Hauser (25 minutes)

+3.5 Svi Mykhailiuk (5 minutes)
+3.5 Lamar Stevens (6 minutes)

+1 Dalano Banton (10 minutes)
-1 Luke Kornet (11 minutes)
-1.5 Oshae Brisset (10 minutes)
-2.5 Payton Pritchard (25 minutes)

Team Total = 126

[Bad-Thoma]

Are we not happy unless we're miserable?

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[Shak_Celts]

They won by 19. And any choke job would still have led to the starters coming back in to close it out. Respectfully, I don't understand this argument because the premise is unprovable either way. As for championship habits 1-15, I'm sorry but that doesn't exist. Guys who are at the back ends of roster are there for a reason. I mean we're worried if this is gonna cost us a championship already. I mean...can we get to Game 4 first before we start panicking because of our 8th and 9th guys aren't playing well to start out?

Meanwhile, let's ignore that our Top 6 is dominant right now and we still haven't even fully figured out how to play with each other yet. There are levels to this and our offensive and defensive continuity still have levels to go. There really isn't much to complain about on this team.

Everything is peachy right now when the top 6 is healthy and the bench is relegated to support roles. When the inevitable injuries happen and guys are going to be thrust into larger roles, well that’s where the concern comes in.

People are talking about how poor the bench played because there’s nothing else to discuss. The starters put on a clinic.

Could've ended the post right here. Nothing else to discuss?? You could try discussing, I don't know...how "everything is peachy right now"? Or are we not happy unless we're miserable?

didn't stop people "not happy unless we're miserable" when complaining about JB any chance they get even when we were winning and always in the conference finals. I could go on and on about what people complain about during the good times but are pretending to be above it now. we all talk about the good during the bad. we're not even saying much except the bench looked like poo, because they did! It was an embarrassing display by key contributors vs guys we likely wont see doing anything worth while if their good players don't sneak them into the playoffs.

also, yes you can get championship habits 1-15, didn't say they had to be good, but that team effort wouldn't beat a gleague team and two (3 KORNY) guys we actually want to play real minutes looked like they were dudes off the street, not guys who have been with us 3 years at least.

had they just missed shots, whatever, they looked like JB vs Mia game 7 except against guys lucky to have a job. not just bad, horrible.

[return2glory]

Good win.

VC goes to Brown then Tatum.

Brown was really good. So was Tatum.

This game reminded me a lot of last season when Brown and Tatum shot too much and passed too little.

They both shot at a very high %. But they combined to take 45 shots, while White only took 3 shots, KP took only 9 and Jrue only 7.
We dominated, so no big deal. But I hope this doesn't become a habit like last season.

Bench was hard too watch in the 4th. When Pritchard and Hauser are missing shots that they normally make, the points are going to be hard to come by. Kornet is Kornet.

Not counting Al, Stevens and Svi were our best players off the bench and they played the least.

[return2glory]

Celtics 3-0 to start the season for the first time in the 70s. Is that right?

[Fierce1]

Yes, the Jays took a lot of shots, but unlike last season, there were few forced shots.

The Jays are just too good if left to go 1 on 1.

I don't mind the volume of shot attempts as long as the Cs are winning.

KP will eventually get his numbers.

It's White who will likely see his numbers drop with this current Cs team.

[return2glory]

The coaches should have a coaches only meeting about the team's bench.

[ConstableGeneva]

The Celtics could be 39-0 and the Nuggets could be 40-0 when they first meet on January 19. That got me excited suddenly.