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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 3: Orlando Magic (2-0) at Los Angeles Lakers (1-2) - 10:30pm 

Post#881 » by VFX » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:48 am

thelead wrote:Mosley's in-game coaching is questionable but there is no doubt that he has his team ready to fight every night. Besides player growth, we may need established coaches next to Mose to help out with in-game management. I could be completely off-base but I do like it when good teams bring in good ex-head coaches as assistants.

As frustrated as I get with the rigid rotations and the lack of in-game adjustments (JI on LeBron was good to see tonight), I'm still a Mose fan.

We now need him to work his player development magic on Paolo. Paolo is the key to everything.


Yeah, I’m still good with Mose. He’s gotten these guys to “buy in” to seeing the larger picture. It’s just those small changes that may or may not be things that are adjusted simply due to it being so early in the season.

And yeah, Paolo’s development has to be prioritized. Can’t just ride on the success of being ROY, especially after a game like tonight.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 3: Orlando Magic (2-0) at Los Angeles Lakers (1-2) - 10:30pm 

Post#882 » by D12VCMagic » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:49 am

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What team takes arguably their best player off the court? lol. That doesn't happen.


Paolo is not our best player. It also comes down to knowing the situation. Leaving your shooters on the bench when you need a three is legitimate madness. Not to mention what kind of play did we even attempt to draw up? Franz just chucked an awful shot from deep when we had plenty of time to run a play. Preferably for the guy that was automatic from three.


Lol, Just saw your first sentence. In your eyes he isn't the best player but to most he is, lol. Can't imagine keeping the number one pick, rookie of the year, Olympic Athlete on the bench for a key moment. This is not reality, lol.


The only case for Paolo being our best player is draft status of being a #1 pick. His efficiency was straight up atrocious last year and he longer has the excuse of being a rookie. Until he becomes a consistent player, he’s not our best player.

Being a #1 pick ROY doesn’t make three pointers going in. Also, he’s not an Olympic athlete. He played in FIBA and I guarantee you team USA wants him nowhere near the Olympic team next year. We left our shooters on the bench for brick layers when we needed a three and surprise surprise we threw up an airball and a brick. But I guess Paolo could just show off his ROY trophy for three points to tie the game! Hell, bring back MCW and he could show off his ROY trophy for an automatic win!
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 3: Orlando Magic (2-0) at Los Angeles Lakers (1-2) - 10:30pm 

Post#883 » by Bensational » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:51 am

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Bensational wrote:Paolo and Cole dragged the team down today. Bad offense, failed to create for others and played turnstile defense. With the significance of their roles they need to be giving us a lot more.

Cole really needs to split point duties off the bench. Harris going 6-6 from 3 but only getting 1 assist from the PG he shared the court with is disgusting. Let Cole hunt for buckets, but stagger Franz or Paolo, or bring in Black to make sure everyone else gets involved.


How was Cole a problem in tonight's game? :roll:


It’s written right there in the post you quoted.

P.s. spacing wasn’t an issue tonight, it’s an inevitable result of iso plays for Franz and Paolo, there’s no off-ball movement involved and neither of those guys were kicking it out when defenders collapsed in the lane.
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Post#884 » by RookieStar » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:57 am

Frustrating... bit expected somewhat. A perfect storm really.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 3: Orlando Magic (2-0) at Los Angeles Lakers (1-2) - 10:30pm 

Post#885 » by Bensational » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:00 am

Rainwater wrote:
D12VCMagic wrote:
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What team takes arguably their best player off the court? lol. That doesn't happen.


Paolo is not our best player. It also comes down to knowing the situation. Leaving your shooters on the bench when you need a three is legitimate madness. Not to mention what kind of play did we even attempt to draw up? Franz just chucked an awful shot from deep when we had plenty of time to run a play. Preferably for the guy that was automatic from three.


Lol, Just saw your first sentence. In your eyes he isn't the best player but to most he is, lol. Can't imagine keeping the number one pick, rookie of the year, Olympic Athlete on the bench for a key moment. This is not reality, lol.


What best player averages 10ppg on 10fgas?

You’ve gotta actually play the best in order to be the best. He wasn’t playing like the best player tonight. You could take out WCJ to protect Paolo’s ego if you have to, but Harris should’ve been on the floor.
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Post#886 » by Rainwater » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:01 am

D12VCMagic wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
D12VCMagic wrote:
Paolo is not our best player. It also comes down to knowing the situation. Leaving your shooters on the bench when you need a three is legitimate madness. Not to mention what kind of play did we even attempt to draw up? Franz just chucked an awful shot from deep when we had plenty of time to run a play. Preferably for the guy that was automatic from three.


Lol, Just saw your first sentence. In your eyes he isn't the best player but to most he is, lol. Can't imagine keeping the number one pick, rookie of the year, Olympic Athlete on the bench for a key moment. This is not reality, lol.


The only case for Paolo being our best player is draft status of being a #1 pick. His efficiency was straight up atrocious last year and he longer has the excuse of being a rookie. Until he becomes a consistent player, he’s not our best player.

Being a #1 pick ROY doesn’t make three pointers going in. Also, he’s not an Olympic athlete. He played in FIBA and I guarantee you team USA wants him nowhere near the Olympic team next year. We left our shooters on the bench for brick layers when we needed a three and surprise surprise we threw up an airball and a brick. But I guess Paolo could just show off his ROY trophy for three points to tie the game! Hell, bring back MCW and he could show off his ROY trophy for an automatic win!


You are debating from YOUR perspective rather than reality. If that is what we are doing there is no point in having this conversation because regardless of what I tell your perspective is reality. At this current Franz and Paolo are arguably our best players, there is very little either one are sitting in that situation, sorry.
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Post#887 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:02 am

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Optimus_Steel wrote:Lack of experience and lack of composure down the stretch were the biggest factors. Rushing plays, questionable decisions. Got to take this lump and learn from it.

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How many more years do they need to get experience? It’s like most of the losses last season were precisely this. At what point do they learn?


We haven't had the talent in the past. We have talent now but it's young talent, top two players 22 or less. Takes time for young guys to learn to close games unless you add a bunch of veterans.

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Post#888 » by D12VCMagic » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:04 am

Rainwater wrote:
D12VCMagic wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
Lol, Just saw your first sentence. In your eyes he isn't the best player but to most he is, lol. Can't imagine keeping the number one pick, rookie of the year, Olympic Athlete on the bench for a key moment. This is not reality, lol.


The only case for Paolo being our best player is draft status of being a #1 pick. His efficiency was straight up atrocious last year and he longer has the excuse of being a rookie. Until he becomes a consistent player, he’s not our best player.

Being a #1 pick ROY doesn’t make three pointers going in. Also, he’s not an Olympic athlete. He played in FIBA and I guarantee you team USA wants him nowhere near the Olympic team next year. We left our shooters on the bench for brick layers when we needed a three and surprise surprise we threw up an airball and a brick. But I guess Paolo could just show off his ROY trophy for three points to tie the game! Hell, bring back MCW and he could show off his ROY trophy for an automatic win!


You are debating from YOUR perspective rather than reality. If that is what we are doing there is no point in having this conversation because regardless of what I tell your perspective is reality. At this current Franz and Paolo are arguably our best players, there is very little either one are sitting in that situation, sorry.


No, the reality is we needed a three point shot and left our shooters on the bench and it literally didn’t work and I have people arguing that this is somehow smart lmao.
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Post#889 » by Rainwater » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:05 am

Bensational wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
D12VCMagic wrote:
Paolo is not our best player. It also comes down to knowing the situation. Leaving your shooters on the bench when you need a three is legitimate madness. Not to mention what kind of play did we even attempt to draw up? Franz just chucked an awful shot from deep when we had plenty of time to run a play. Preferably for the guy that was automatic from three.


Lol, Just saw your first sentence. In your eyes he isn't the best player but to most he is, lol. Can't imagine keeping the number one pick, rookie of the year, Olympic Athlete on the bench for a key moment. This is not reality, lol.


What best player averages 10ppg on 10fgas?

You’ve gotta actually play the best in order to be the best. He wasn’t playing like the best player tonight. You could take out WCJ to protect Paolo’s ego if you have to, but Harris should’ve been on the floor.


You aren't sitting one of your best players on the finally shot just because he played poorly after the 3rd game of the season. This doesn't happen. It doesn't make sense.
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Post#890 » by pepe1991 » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:06 am

Magic's best player is Franz. Magic best player from last year was also - Franz.
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Post#891 » by VFX » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:07 am

Rainwater wrote:
Bensational wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
Lol, Just saw your first sentence. In your eyes he isn't the best player but to most he is, lol. Can't imagine keeping the number one pick, rookie of the year, Olympic Athlete on the bench for a key moment. This is not reality, lol.


What best player averages 10ppg on 10fgas?

You’ve gotta actually play the best in order to be the best. He wasn’t playing like the best player tonight. You could take out WCJ to protect Paolo’s ego if you have to, but Harris should’ve been on the floor.


You aren't sitting one of your best players on the finally shot just because he played poorly after the 3rd game of the season. This doesn't happen. It doesn't make sense.


Like. I get what you are saying, but Paolo was absolutely not the best player on the floor tonight. He wasn’t better than Gary Harris.

It’s situational.
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Post#892 » by VFX » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:07 am

pepe1991 wrote:Magic's best player is Franz. Magic best player from last year was also - Franz.


This is factual
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Post#893 » by Bensational » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:08 am

Rainwater wrote:
Bensational wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
Lol, Just saw your first sentence. In your eyes he isn't the best player but to most he is, lol. Can't imagine keeping the number one pick, rookie of the year, Olympic Athlete on the bench for a key moment. This is not reality, lol.


What best player averages 10ppg on 10fgas?

You’ve gotta actually play the best in order to be the best. He wasn’t playing like the best player tonight. You could take out WCJ to protect Paolo’s ego if you have to, but Harris should’ve been on the floor.


You aren't sitting one of your best players on the finally shot just because he played poorly after the 3rd game of the season. This doesn't happen. It doesn't make sense.


It makes sense - Paolo was not playing like a best player tonight, that’s just facts. Facts make sense. It doesn’t make sense if you blindly support undeserved entitlement though.
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Post#894 » by D12VCMagic » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:10 am

Harden just got traded to the Clippers finally. Looks like they may be short some bodies for our game tomorrow depending on who got moved.
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Post#895 » by Rainwater » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:12 am

D12VCMagic wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
D12VCMagic wrote:
The only case for Paolo being our best player is draft status of being a #1 pick. His efficiency was straight up atrocious last year and he longer has the excuse of being a rookie. Until he becomes a consistent player, he’s not our best player.

Being a #1 pick ROY doesn’t make three pointers going in. Also, he’s not an Olympic athlete. He played in FIBA and I guarantee you team USA wants him nowhere near the Olympic team next year. We left our shooters on the bench for brick layers when we needed a three and surprise surprise we threw up an airball and a brick. But I guess Paolo could just show off his ROY trophy for three points to tie the game! Hell, bring back MCW and he could show off his ROY trophy for an automatic win!


You are debating from YOUR perspective rather than reality. If that is what we are doing there is no point in having this conversation because regardless of what I tell your perspective is reality. At this current Franz and Paolo are arguably our best players, there is very little either one are sitting in that situation, sorry.


No, the reality is we needed a three point shot and left our shooters on the bench and it literally didn’t work and I have people arguing that this is somehow smart lmao.


I don't know what to tell you this is what happens. I remember Kobe's rookie or second season against Utah. Dude kept airballing key shots and they ended up losing the game. If the team thinks you are the guy you will get the shots despite how poorly you played. It is what is.
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Post#896 » by shadrock » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:13 am

This league is honestly fking broken. Disgraceful. A corrupt, fraudulent, disgrace. Im actually embarassed to be a fan of ANY team in this league. Absolutely and utterly COOKED result.
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Post#897 » by Rainwater » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:16 am

Bensational wrote:
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Bensational wrote:
What best player averages 10ppg on 10fgas?

You’ve gotta actually play the best in order to be the best. He wasn’t playing like the best player tonight. You could take out WCJ to protect Paolo’s ego if you have to, but Harris should’ve been on the floor.


You aren't sitting one of your best players on the finally shot just because he played poorly after the 3rd game of the season. This doesn't happen. It doesn't make sense.


It makes sense - Paolo was not playing like a best player tonight, that’s just facts. Facts make sense. It doesn’t make sense if you blindly support undeserved entitlement though.


He is the arguably the teams best player, he just won rookie of the year last year. He is not getting benched in those situations. Its wishful thinking if you think they would. You live and die by their performance regardless of how badly they played. There is no team that would would do such a thing.
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Post#898 » by richi_v25 » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:16 am

I'm surprised how lackluster JI was in this game, I figured he's a starter playing bench and could bully the opponent's second team but tonight he showed he's definitely a bench player with his whole 3 points.
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Post#899 » by thelead » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:19 am

pepe1991 wrote:Magic's best player is Franz. Magic best player from last year was also - Franz.

100%... but Paolo likely needs to become our best player for the team to become contenders one day.
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