Around The NBA - Regular Season version (Harden traded...now what?)

[MrDollarBills]

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I would go OG if I were them. They can find random 3PT bombers.

Masai will ask for Maxey and multiple 1sts/swaps.

Two teams i wouldn't bother dealing with unless they call first: Toronto and Utah.

[DOT]

The prior moves were bad, and hanging on to those contracts too long was terrible (and seems like a pattern with Leon), but whether it wound up being Duren or any number of other players people like, none of them would have been better than ending draft night in a position to sign Jalen Brunson.

But we could have had both the 11th pick and the cap space to sign Brunson is the point

Leon and co. made a series of unforced errors and managed to nepotism their way out of it. That does not bode well for their ability to handle the roster going forward.

[thebuzzardman]

Since someone brought up Duren, I think we should re-litigate the 2022 draft night

We originally had the 11th pick, we traded it for 3 future 1sts, all conditional, two of which haven't transferred, the other was the 27th pick in 2023. So far, not great especially because the other 2 firsts are Washington and Detroit picks, both heavily protected

We then traded the pick which ended up 27th in 2023 (became Nick Smith Jr., too early to judge anyone here) along with 3 future 2nds which became the 39th, 41st, and 53rd picks for the 13th pick

So far, we sent out the 11th pick, a future 39th, 41st, and 53rd pick for 13 and two future heavily protected 1sts

We then traded pick 13 for Milwaukee's 2025 pick (protected 1-4) and to get rid of 1 year, 9 million dollars of Kemba's salary

So to sum up, we traded the 11th pick, a future 39th, 41st, and 53rd pick, and a 1 year, 9 million dollar contract for Detroit and Washington's 1sts top 10 protected for at least 3 more years and Milwaukee's 2025 first, top 4 protected (and if it is in the top 4, it goes to Nola and we get nothing)

It shouldn't be Jalen Duren we're talking about, we also missed out on Jalen Williams, Mark Williams, AJ Griffin, and Tari Eason to name a few. All would be key rotation guys

And before we get into the "we had to trade a 1st to get rid of Kemba's salary to sign Brunson, Leon is elite!" Leon is the one who gave Kemba that contract in the first place, same with Noel, Rose, Burks, Fournier, Hart, and DiVincenzo.

Not losing sleep over future 39th, 41st, and 53rd pick.

Kemba and trading the 1st is bad asset management. I'll give the FO credit for at least being able to pivot off of bad moves into a clearly good one in Brunson.

Mixed bag. This FO has been far from excellent, but have been decent in pivoting away from mistakes.

Jury is still out on Hart and Donte, even though I know "I LUV THE DRAFT" fanboys are against them.

They don't make the playoffs last year without Hart. Solid move, even for a pick.
His contract? Eh. Not wild about it, but maybe it's not so bad either. It's not Fournier bad.

Donte? Again, the contract, after signing Hart, and with IQ coming, hard to defend, but he's played all of two games and building up some guard depth IF they make a trade, might be a good thing.

Then again, everyone hoped there would be better moves after Burks/Noel etc, and there weren't, other than, again, unf*cking themselves from those deals and Kemba etc, when Brunson was available.

I started this post 2 hours ago, so I know some of this was covered already.

[thebuzzardman]

The prior moves were bad, and hanging on to those contracts too long was terrible (and seems like a pattern with Leon), but whether it wound up being Duren or any number of other players people like, none of them would have been better than ending draft night in a position to sign Jalen Brunson.

But we could have had both the 11th pick and the cap space to sign Brunson is the point

Leon and co. made a series of unforced errors and managed to nepotism their way out of it. That does not bode well for their ability to handle the roster going forward.

Better I guess they didn't leverage one of the few players they had a relationship so the Knicks could trot the likes of Kemba or Elf again.

[j4remi]

The prior moves were bad, and hanging on to those contracts too long was terrible (and seems like a pattern with Leon), but whether it wound up being Duren or any number of other players people like, none of them would have been better than ending draft night in a position to sign Jalen Brunson.

But we could have had both the 11th pick and the cap space to sign Brunson is the point

Leon and co. made a series of unforced errors and managed to nepotism their way out of it. That does not bode well for their ability to handle the roster going forward.

Absolutely, but there are two discussions to be had. First there's getting the best return that they could with they had on draft night (this I'd categorize as good). The second is the process that got them to draft night with the limitations they had (this was terrible).

That they were quick to cut losses and turned the move into a franchise PG is nice. But everything that got them there is frustrating as all hell. They coulda dumped Burks and Noel at the deadline and probably even picked slightly higher. Although that could have been a disaster if it's true that they would have picked Johnny Davis, so they might have stumbled their way into the one move that saved everyone's neck by making a series of dumb mistakes

[thebuzzardman]

The prior moves were bad, and hanging on to those contracts too long was terrible (and seems like a pattern with Leon), but whether it wound up being Duren or any number of other players people like, none of them would have been better than ending draft night in a position to sign Jalen Brunson.

But we could have had both the 11th pick and the cap space to sign Brunson is the point

Leon and co. made a series of unforced errors and managed to nepotism their way out of it. That does not bode well for their ability to handle the roster going forward.

Absolutely, but there are two discussions to be had. First there's getting the best return that they could with they had on draft night (this I'd categorize as good). The second is the process that got them to draft night with the limitations they had (this was terrible).

That they were quick to cut losses and turned the move into a franchise PG is nice. But everything that got them there is frustrating as all hell. They coulda dumped Burks and Noel at the deadline and probably even picked slightly higher. Although that could have been a disaster if it's true that they would have picked Johnny Davis, so they might have stumbled their way into the one move that saved everyone's neck by making a series of dumb mistakes

This isn't the completely binary answer most are looking for

[thebuzzardman]

Morris and Kockmarz for Fournier and a 2nd rounder. GET IT DONE LEON.

[j4remi]

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[NoDopeOnSundays]

The Sixers will have room for 2 max players, I expect them to get one of the Raptors guys, and try to trade for LaVine.

[DaGawd]

The Sixers will have room for 2 max players, I expect them to get one of the Raptors guys, and try to trade for LaVine.

rip embiid to the knicks pipe dream

[Galvationknicks]

Listened to a lil bit of Hahn today. He said philly now has the ammunition to get Donovan and maybe Levine. I can see the Cavs trading to Mitchell to the sixers to spite us again and they can get value for him now instead of waiting to next year for lesser value.

Come this deadline things will get interesting around the league

[Galvationknicks]

The Sixers will have room for 2 max players, I expect them to get one of the Raptors guys, and try to trade for LaVine.

rip embiid to the knicks pipe dream

Stars only go if you trade by giving up the house, drafting one or the Star wants to leave. The free agent era is over

[Galvationknicks]

Winning those games at the end of the season 2 years ago hurt us. We wasn't making the playoffs then. I hope Leon and company are getting better over time but they did make alot of errors, but did get us to respectability

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[NoDopeOnSundays]

The Sixers will have room for 2 max players, I expect them to get one of the Raptors guys, and try to trade for LaVine.

rip embiid to the knicks pipe dream

Building a team around trading for a star has always been a dumb idea.

[3toheadmelo]

i like there's a lot more stacked nba teams this year. playoffs should be very competitive

clippers
celtics
nuggets
suns
bucks



should be interesting to see who wins it all

[MrDollarBills]

Morris and Kockmarz for Fournier and a 2nd rounder. GET IT DONE LEON.

In all seriousness, trying to pry one of Morris or Covington from Philly to provide depth at 4 should be a no brainer move.

[MrDollarBills]

The Sixers will have room for 2 max players, I expect them to get one of the Raptors guys, and try to trade for LaVine.

rip embiid to the knicks pipe dream

yeah that 65m in space can be used to absorb big salary in a trade. If I'm Philly I'm dangling that '28 Clippers 1st to multiple teams.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

i like there's a lot more stacked nba teams this year. playoffs should be very competitive

clippers
celtics
nuggets
suns
bucks



should be interesting to see who wins it all

What's cool is that they all have different styles and weaknesses too.

[Capn'O]

Morris and Kockmarz for Fournier and a 2nd rounder. GET IT DONE LEON.

In all seriousness, trying to pry one of Morris or Covington from Philly to provide depth at 4 should be a no brainer move.

Absolutely. Or even Batum.

I'm legit in on Buzz's trade.