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steger_3434 · Post #841 » by **steger_3434** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:06 pm

tedbrogen wrote:Are people legitimately arguing we can’t evaluate Beasily because the system might have flaws?

How about all the prior teams that evaluated him, pulled him from their rotations, got better by doing so, and were happy to get rid of him?

Sounds like all the teams that interviewed griffen and were happy they didn’t sign him. It’s possible both are horrible for this team. One is an easy cut and he’s gone. The other is year for at least a year

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tedbrogen · Post #842 » by **tedbrogen** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:09 pm

steger_3434 wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:Are people legitimately arguing we can’t evaluate Beasily because the system might have flaws?

How about all the prior teams that evaluated him, pulled him from their rotations, got better by doing so, and were happy to get rid of him?

Sounds like all the teams that interviewed griffen and were happy they didn’t sign him. It’s possible both are horrible for this team. One is an easy cut and he’s gone. The other is year for at least a year

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I agree that Beasily is easy to get rid of, it’s just concerning his is currently third on the team in minutes.

I’d argue AG can get the boot at any point because you can roll with Prunty or hilariously bring in Stotts as the head coach. I’d just like to evaluate AG without Beasily wrecking everything, but AG is the one giving him minutes so if the only way to end that is ditch AG before the all star break, it is what it is.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #843 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:19 pm

Beasley is the perfect example of a guy who if you just kind of check the box score or watch him for short bursts on another team he'll seem kind of interesting and you might wonder why he doesn't play more.

Then when he's on your team and you watch him closer you realize why.

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soxperry · Post #844 » by **soxperry** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:25 pm

Beasley is really trying, hes just not a guy we can use if we are serious about winning imo.

Daver · Post #845 » by **Daver** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:51 pm

tedbrogen wrote:
neiLz wrote:It'd be in thing if this team looked cohesive and Beasley was out there running around like he is now... But everyone looks lost on defense. It's as if Joe Barry is the DC. Gonna give it some time but the Team needs to get acquainted to each other.

Beasily looks lost on both ends. The team looks way better in the few minutes each game they are allowed to play without him anchoring the team into stagnation.

You could instantly have a more cohesive team on both ends by removing him from the rotation entirely.

And yet people were saying after the 1st gsme how much better the O looked without giannis on the floor

Diggr14 · Post #846 » by **Diggr14** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 12:03 am

Would Miami trade Herro/filler for Middleton / filler?

I think you gotta get off Khash ASAP (after the date he can be traded). He's old, injury prone, and just not very good anymore.

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drone3 · Post #848 » by **drone3** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 12:16 am

Diggr14 wrote:Would Miami trade Herro/filler for Middleton / filler?

I think you gotta get off Khash ASAP (after the date he can be traded). He's old, injury prone, and just not very good anymore.

Midds ages like wine he's still really good. Hopefully he fully recovers

RogerMurdock · Post #849 » by **RogerMurdock** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 12:46 am

Diggr14 wrote:Would Miami trade Herro/filler for Middleton / filler?

I think you gotta get off Khash ASAP (after the date he can be traded). He's old, injury prone, and just not very good anymore.

FrieAaron · Post #850 » by **FrieAaron** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 12:46 am

Fair to question or be dubious about his health, but gotta question if someone has seen Middleton's (albeit limited) minutes so far this year or his playoff performance if you're saying he's no longer good.

Edit: And besides that, Miami was allegedly refusing to offer Herro as part of a package for Lillard so I don't see why they'd suddenly d o so to acquire Midds.

Post #851 » by **Prez** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 12:48 am

FrieAaron wrote:Fair to question or be dubious about his health, but gotta question if someone has seen Middleton's (albeit limited) minutes so far this year or his playoff performance if you're saying he's no longer good.

Yeah, his play in limited minutes might literally be the *most* promising thing this season lol. It’s just a matter of can he stay healthy when he gets ramped up to 28-30+ mpg.

blazza18 · Post #852 » by **blazza18** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 1:07 am

Saying he's not very good is **** crazy regardless of the injury stuff.

Since his last comeback stint he's been really good in his reduced minutes role. Think even once he's back back we should seriously consider only playing him 25-28 a night unless we really need him to play more.

tedbrogen · Post #853 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 1:57 am

Midds was their best player in the playoffs last year. Easily.

Jez2983 · Post #854 » by **Jez2983** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 2:20 am

blazza18 wrote:Saying he's not very good is **** crazy regardless of the injury stuff.

Since his last comeback stint he's been really good in his reduced minutes role. Think even once he's back back we should seriously consider only playing him 25-28 a night unless we really need him to play more.

If we are winning, that would be a really interesting idea. We should stagger the line ups too, so teams will never know when they'll get smashed by our death line up :lol:

drone3 · Post #855 » by **drone3** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 3:27 am

Can't stop thinking how crazy the FO office has to be to hire Griff. The only logical take is that Giannis wanted him and they had Stotts as a fall back. With Stotts disappearing act we need to find a Stotts replacement.

bucksfansince88 · Post #856 » by **bucksfansince88** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 3:30 am

drone3 wrote:Can't stop thinking how crazy the FO office has to be to hire Griff. The only logical take is that Giannis wanted him and they had Stotts as a fall back. With Stotts disappearing act we need to find a Stotts replacement.

Joe prunty is worthy and capable

BroncoBuck · Post #857 » by **BroncoBuck** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 4:31 am

bucksfansince88 wrote:
drone3 wrote:Can't stop thinking how crazy the FO office has to be to hire Griff. The only logical take is that Giannis wanted him and they had Stotts as a fall back. With Stotts disappearing act we need to find a Stotts replacement.

“Joe prunty is worthy and capable”

-Joe Prunty

-Jragon- · Post #858 » by **-Jragon-** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 5:23 am

Not sure I'd say Crowder "can't" start at the 2.. worst case he gets blown by sometimes which happens to our starting 2 anyways.

giannis and 1 · Post #859 » by **giannis and 1** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 5:34 am

Beasly can have a place in a playoff rotation. We all saw what Forbes did to the Heat during our championship run.

He might not play in every series, but there are certain matchups where he should be part of the rotation and can help us a lot.

He should never be starting though, complete opposite of what we need from our starting sg.

soxperry · Post #860 » by **soxperry** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 5:41 am

giannis and 1 wrote:Beasly can have a place in a playoff rotation. We all saw what Forbes did to the Heat during our championship run.

He might not play in every series, but there are certain matchups where he should be part of the rotation and can help us a lot.

He should never be starting though, complete opposite of what we need from our starting sg.

i'm going to keep saying it until it happens.. but we need a younger version of Wes Matthews at 2 guard.