Zinger and Jrue look AMAZING out there. We are legit.

[dans1230]

It wasn't rocket science.

Getting rid of Smart ass addition by subtraction.

Replacing him with a guy who could actually score?

C'mon now.

Thats a bold take, one i completely disagree with. If the Celtics lost Smart for nothing, the Celtics would not be better off.
Smart is scoring 17ppg on 53%fg, 40% 3pfg. Hes also at 3 steals through his first 4 games in Memphis. Will it continue..Of course not, but hes not a negative player overall.
Im glad to have Jrue and Porzingis on this team even at the expense of Smart, Williams, and Brogdon, but addition by subtraction doesnt apply to any of the guys we lost.

[ConstableGeneva]

Even in an alternate universe where you had Smart + Timelord getting us Holiday but we never traded for Porzingis (so we get to keep Brogdon), Cs would be better but not that much better. Porzingis -- and how he changes the dynamics of our offense -- is what significantly elevates this team. Never in the Brad era has the Cs had a big who can post up and score inside the way KP can. Even 2017 Horford who posted a bit couldn't score at KP's efficieny level. 2017 Horford also didn't take as many threes as KP does now.

2017 Horford: 4 possessions / game, 28.2% frequency, 0.93 PPP, 67.9 percentile.
2024 Porzingis*: 3.3 possessions / game, 21.3% frequency, 1.40 PPP, 89.5 percentile.

*super small sample

[The Corey's]

It wasn't rocket science.

Getting rid of Smart ass addition by subtraction.

Replacing him with a guy who could actually score?

C'mon now.

Thats a bold take, one i completely disagree with. If the Celtics lost Smart for nothing, the Celtics would not be better off.
Smart is scoring 17ppg on 53%fg, 40% 3pfg. Hes also at 3 steals through his first 4 games in Memphis. Will it continue..Of course not, but hes not a negative player overall.
Im glad to have Jrue and Porzingis on this team even at the expense of Smart, Williams, and Brogdon, but addition by subtraction doesnt apply to any of the guys we lost.

They didn't lose Smart for nothing. In fact they killed that trade.

Two first AND KP

As for the addition by subtraction.

Well there's those who didn't understand that Smart was a problem on offense and then there are those who understand that every shot he doesnt take that KP or Tatum takes is a slam dunk, why we debating this home run.

Smart ran his course. Like 3 seasons ago.

Good riddance.

[ddb]

One thing I'll say about Brad is that he has a good grip on how players/skill-sets blend together. A lot of that probably comes from coaching. He knows what worked, what didn't work, and he's very familiar with the players across the league.
I say this because it's pretty clear when you look at his moves. He knew he inherited a star foundation in Tatum & Brown, but a roster that was broken. He immediately started building by bringing in players that would help bring out the best in JT/JB. Horford was brought back. DWhite was brought in. Now Porzingis and Jrue. The 1 common theme with those 4 guys is they're all team first, connective tissue type of players. Porzingis wasn't that type of guy 2-3 years ago, but he is now. He's loving this situation he's in.

Brad also brought in length and versatility on the cheap with guys like Stevens, Walsh, OB, Banton, Svi, Hauser. Brad knows that out of that group a couple will emerge as effective role players. Or it may end up being a rotation of that group depending on who's earning the time.

His final move will come later this season when he finds a way to bring in a legitimate 3rd big. The "PJ Brown" type. Probably, a veteran who knows how to play and is at the point in his career where he won't care about how many minutes he plays. Someone capable and trustworthy if thrown into a playoff game because of foul trouble or injury.

The 1 player that keeps coming to mind as a PERFECT fit for the Celtics is Xavier Tillman. I predicted before the season started that Memphis was going to struggle this year. It's a bridge year for them. They need to get through the Ja Morant saga. So far, that's been exactly the case. Now, it's WAY too early for them to panic and fold....But later in the season they will realize this isn't their year. At which point Brad needs to offer 2-4 second round picks for Tillman. He's the IDEAL 3rd big for this team. An unselfish, tough, defensive minded 4/5 that is afraid of the big moment. He's played in playoff games filling in for Steven Adams. Only 1.9 on the cap. Expiring contract. He's perfect.

[ddb]

It wasn't rocket science.

Getting rid of Smart ass addition by subtraction.

Replacing him with a guy who could actually score?

C'mon now.

Thats a bold take, one i completely disagree with. If the Celtics lost Smart for nothing, the Celtics would not be better off.
Smart is scoring 17ppg on 53%fg, 40% 3pfg. Hes also at 3 steals through his first 4 games in Memphis. Will it continue..Of course not, but hes not a negative player overall.
Im glad to have Jrue and Porzingis on this team even at the expense of Smart, Williams, and Brogdon, but addition by subtraction doesnt apply to any of the guys we lost.

They didn't lose Smart for nothing. In fact they killed that trade.

Two first AND KP

As for the addition by subtraction.

Well there's those who didn't understand that Smart was a problem on offense and then there are those who understand that every shot he doesnt take that KP or Tatum takes is a slam dunk, why we debating this home run.

Smart ran his course. Like 3 seasons ago.

Good riddance.

I was SOOOOO over Marcus Smart. He peaked in his DPOTY season in helping Boston reach the finals. But even then, he drove me crazy. But I'll admit that during that run I thought to myself that I may be wrong about Smart. I love Marcus, I wish him well. But it was simply time. The fact that Brad landed Porzingis AND picks in that deal is incredible.

[Bad-Thoma]

Getting rid of Smart ass addition by subtraction.

Historical footage of The Corey's working on math.



That's such a bad take, it was a good trade that balanced the roster and added talent that became a great trade when Jrue later became available. If the Jrue trade didn't happen it still would have been an upgrade in overall talent but our back court would be defensively thin which would have put a ton more pressure on KP when Derrick was off the floor.

In a vacuum losing Marcus didn't make us better though.

[KillahGhostface]

Knew this thread would be filled with Smart slander.

You god damn heathens.

[GoCeltics123]

One thing I'll say about Brad is that he has a good grip on how players/skill-sets blend together. A lot of that probably comes from coaching. He knows what worked, what didn't work, and he's very familiar with the players across the league.
I say this because it's pretty clear when you look at his moves. He knew he inherited a star foundation in Tatum & Brown, but a roster that was broken. He immediately started building by bringing in players that would help bring out the best in JT/JB. Horford was brought back. DWhite was brought in. Now Porzingis and Jrue. The 1 common theme with those 4 guys is they're all team first, connective tissue type of players. Porzingis wasn't that type of guy 2-3 years ago, but he is now. He's loving this situation he's in.

Brad also brought in length and versatility on the cheap with guys like Stevens, Walsh, OB, Banton, Svi, Hauser. Brad knows that out of that group a couple will emerge as effective role players. Or it may end up being a rotation of that group depending on who's earning the time.

His final move will come later this season when he finds a way to bring in a legitimate 3rd big. The "PJ Brown" type. Probably, a veteran who knows how to play and is at the point in his career where he won't care about how many minutes he plays. Someone capable and trustworthy if thrown into a playoff game because of foul trouble or injury.

The 1 player that keeps coming to mind as a PERFECT fit for the Celtics is Xavier Tillman. I predicted before the season started that Memphis was going to struggle this year. It's a bridge year for them. They need to get through the Ja Morant saga. So far, that's been exactly the case. Now, it's WAY too early for them to panic and fold....But later in the season they will realize this isn't their year. At which point Brad needs to offer 2-4 second round picks for Tillman. He's the IDEAL 3rd big for this team. An unselfish, tough, defensive minded 4/5 that is afraid of the big moment. He's played in playoff games filling in for Steven Adams. Only 1.9 on the cap. Expiring contract. He's perfect.

Xavier Tillman would be a phenomenal fit here for sure

[Smart2Nesmith43]

One thing I'll say about Brad is that he has a good grip on how players/skill-sets blend together. A lot of that probably comes from coaching. He knows what worked, what didn't work, and he's very familiar with the players across the league.
I say this because it's pretty clear when you look at his moves. He knew he inherited a star foundation in Tatum & Brown, but a roster that was broken. He immediately started building by bringing in players that would help bring out the best in JT/JB. Horford was brought back. DWhite was brought in. Now Porzingis and Jrue. The 1 common theme with those 4 guys is they're all team first, connective tissue type of players. Porzingis wasn't that type of guy 2-3 years ago, but he is now. He's loving this situation he's in.

Brad also brought in length and versatility on the cheap with guys like Stevens, Walsh, OB, Banton, Svi, Hauser. Brad knows that out of that group a couple will emerge as effective role players. Or it may end up being a rotation of that group depending on who's earning the time.

His final move will come later this season when he finds a way to bring in a legitimate 3rd big. The "PJ Brown" type. Probably, a veteran who knows how to play and is at the point in his career where he won't care about how many minutes he plays. Someone capable and trustworthy if thrown into a playoff game because of foul trouble or injury.

The 1 player that keeps coming to mind as a PERFECT fit for the Celtics is Xavier Tillman. I predicted before the season started that Memphis was going to struggle this year. It's a bridge year for them. They need to get through the Ja Morant saga. So far, that's been exactly the case. Now, it's WAY too early for them to panic and fold....But later in the season they will realize this isn't their year. At which point Brad needs to offer 2-4 second round picks for Tillman. He's the IDEAL 3rd big for this team. An unselfish, tough, defensive minded 4/5 that is afraid of the big moment. He's played in playoff games filling in for Steven Adams. Only 1.9 on the cap. Expiring contract. He's perfect.

Xavier Tillman would be a phenomenal fit here for sure

Also worth noting that Stevens has a good relation with the Grizzlies front office. He has done the Smart trade and the Juancho Hernangomez for Carsen Edwards/Kris Dunn trade with them.

If the Grizzlies collapse, Tillman should be priority number one. Konchar is another intriguing guy. He's making only 2.4 million this year before his extension kicks in (6 millions per year for 3 years). Not necessarily a playoff contributor but he could be a decent depth piece (+5 net rating, +2.2 on/off for his career) with an affordable long term contrat which this team also needs.

[Parliament10]

Smart, Rob, Grant, and Brogdon, were all good. -- We also Traded Gallinari & Muscala.
But Fact is, we got a Lot better. (May we not be plagued by injuries.)

Jrue has been on 5 x All-Defensive Teams.
Porzingis is 7'3" and can shoot the 3, among a ton of other things.

I do miss Smart, and Rob, and Grant. Don't get Wrong.
But, that was last year. Time to move along.

[Parasite]

It wasn't rocket science.

Getting rid of Smart ass addition by subtraction.

Replacing him with a guy who could actually score?

C'mon now.

Thats a bold take, one i completely disagree with. If the Celtics lost Smart for nothing, the Celtics would not be better off.
Smart is scoring 17ppg on 53%fg, 40% 3pfg. Hes also at 3 steals through his first 4 games in Memphis. Will it continue..Of course not, but hes not a negative player overall.
Im glad to have Jrue and Porzingis on this team even at the expense of Smart, Williams, and Brogdon, but addition by subtraction doesnt apply to any of the guys we lost.

And the Grizzlies are 0-4. This has always been the fatal flaw with people evaluating Marcus’ game. He is just not a winning player. I’m sorry but he isn’t. Is he a dog? Yes. That’s valuable. But he makes too many boneheaded plays and mistakes in critical parts of the game. Always has always will. If we have Holiday instead of Smart last year we are in tne Finals and give Denver all they can handle.

[The Corey's]

Getting rid of Smart ass addition by subtraction.

Historical footage of The Corey's working on math.



That's such a bad take, it was a good trade that balanced the roster and added talent that became a great trade when Jrue later became available. If the Jrue trade didn't happen it still would have been an upgrade in overall talent but our back court would be defensively thin which would have put a ton more pressure on KP when Derrick was off the floor.

In a vacuum losing Marcus didn't make us better though.

Smart didn't make us better but it's a bad take from me saying we got better by trading him.

Wonderful take.

[Bad-Thoma]

Getting rid of Smart ass addition by subtraction.

Historical footage of The Corey's working on math.



That's such a bad take, it was a good trade that balanced the roster and added talent that became a great trade when Jrue later became available. If the Jrue trade didn't happen it still would have been an upgrade in overall talent but our back court would be defensively thin which would have put a ton more pressure on KP when Derrick was off the floor.

In a vacuum losing Marcus didn't make us better though.

Smart didn't make us better but it's a bad take from me saying we got better by trading him.

Wonderful take.

"Addition by subtraction" is when you get better by getting rid of someone without getting something in return. You apparently not knowing that kind of explains the take though, and I don't mean that in a condescending way.

[The Corey's]

Historical footage of The Corey's working on math.



That's such a bad take, it was a good trade that balanced the roster and added talent that became a great trade when Jrue later became available. If the Jrue trade didn't happen it still would have been an upgrade in overall talent but our back court would be defensively thin which would have put a ton more pressure on KP when Derrick was off the floor.

In a vacuum losing Marcus didn't make us better though.

Smart didn't make us better but it's a bad take from me saying we got better by trading him.

Wonderful take.

"Addition by subtraction" is when you get better by getting rid of someone without getting something in return. You apparently not knowing that kind of explains the take though, and I don't mean that in a condescending way.

Smart was subtracted.

He gone.

Hope he enjoys Memphis.

[Bad-Thoma]

Smart didn't make us better but it's a bad take from me saying we got better by trading him.

Wonderful take.

"Addition by subtraction" is when you get better by getting rid of someone without getting something in return. You apparently not knowing that kind of explains the take though, and I don't mean that in a condescending way.

Smart was subtracted.

He gone.

Hope he enjoys Memphis.

No, he was traded. Google that shot if you don't believe me.

[King Of The 4th]

We're so money and we don't even know it

[SLCceltic]

don't want to jinx it, Zinger is 4-0 on opening tip !! he wins EASILY

[The Corey's]

"Addition by subtraction" is when you get better by getting rid of someone without getting something in return. You apparently not knowing that kind of explains the take though, and I don't mean that in a condescending way.

Smart was subtracted.

He gone.

Hope he enjoys Memphis.

No, he was traded. Google that shot if you don't believe me.

Meanwhile. Celtics continue to excell without him taking up all the jays shots.

Addition by subtraction. Good riddance.

[Jaqua92]

Smart was subtracted.

He gone.

Hope he enjoys Memphis.

No, he was traded. Google that shot if you don't believe me.

Meanwhile. Celtics continue to excell without him taking up all the jays shots.

Addition by subtraction. Good riddance.

"Sometimes I told ya so, just doesn't quite cut it"

That's years in the making baby. The team is loose, and free and the attitude is entirely different. I'm all in on this team now. Seeing more atittude here in these 4 games than in ANY single game these last 4 years.

Yup..good riddance.

Edit: it's clear you aren't referencing roster and talent construction. It's a cultural positive.

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[lon3lytoaster]

Smart was subtracted.

He gone.

Hope he enjoys Memphis.

No, he was traded. Google that shot if you don't believe me.

Meanwhile. Celtics continue to excell without him taking up all the jays shots.

Addition by subtraction. Good riddance.

I know a lot of people really love Marcus Smart but may have taken your original comment a little too literally. The team absolutely needed to move on from Marcus. He very much felt like it was his team to run it seemed and JT deferred to him way, way too much. It was like Dumb & Dumber with him and Jaylen together and that was a huge part of some of this team’s mental collapses over the years.

Being able to then dump Black Hole Brogdon for Jrue was icing on the cake.

I’ll also never forget Marcus Smart throwing a half court heave with a full shot clock. He was an absolute train wreck at times.