2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

[Knicksfan1992]

Pretty obvious where the hole in our roster is - we go from around a short 6'6" to 6'10" with only Randle in between. We may be the only team in the NBA without a player in the rotation filling that spot (except for Randle).

That's really not the issue. If size was the issue it would manifest itself on the boards and the Knicks are top 5 in the league in RPG.

The issue is RJ and Hartenstein currently are the only major rotation guy shooting the ball well from the field

Randle 27% from the field
Brunson 37%
Somehow Mitch is at 38%
Grimes at 36%
Hart is at 38%

Knicks aren't the most efficient offense, but they aren't this bad either.

We're also not taking advantage of our high free throw rate either because we're shooting 66% from the stripe.

I'm not going to worry unless we get to like game 10 and the percentages stay around these levels.

In a small sample size like this, a lot of times it's just random shooting blips that cause a team to look worse than they really are.

We knew the opening schedule was a gauntlet so they just have to get to like 3-7 or 4-6 and then they get a nice break where they should be able to stack some wins.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Pretty obvious where the hole in our roster is - we go from around a short 6'6" to 6'10" with only Randle in between. We may be the only team in the NBA without a player in the rotation filling that spot (except for Randle).

That's really not the issue. If size was the issue it would manifest itself on the boards and the Knicks are top 5 in the league in RPG.

The issue is RJ and Hartenstein currently are the only major rotation guy shooting the ball well from the field

Randle 27% from the field
Brunson 37%
Somehow Mitch is at 38%
Grimes at 36%
Hart is at 38%

Knicks aren't the most efficient offense, but they aren't this bad either.

We're also not taking advantage of our high free throw rate either because we're shooting 66% from the stripe.

I'm not going to worry unless we get to like game 10 and the percentages stay around these levels.

In a small sample size like this, a lot of times it's just random shooting blips that cause a team to look worse than they really are.

We knew the opening schedule was a gauntlet so they just have to get to like 3-7 or 4-6 and then they get a nice break where they should be able to stack some wins.

It's the issue in a trade related matter though. Seeing how this is the trade thread...

[8516knicks]

Also on D

[KnixinSix]

Pretty obvious where the hole in our roster is - we go from around a short 6'6" to 6'10" with only Randle in between. We may be the only team in the NBA without a player in the rotation filling that spot (except for Randle).

That's really not the issue. If size was the issue it would manifest itself on the boards and the Knicks are top 5 in the league in RPG.

The issue is RJ and Hartenstein currently are the only major rotation guy shooting the ball well from the field

Randle 27% from the field
Brunson 37%
Somehow Mitch is at 38%
Grimes at 36%
Hart is at 38%

Knicks aren't the most efficient offense, but they aren't this bad either.

We're also not taking advantage of our high free throw rate either because we're shooting 66% from the stripe.

I'm not going to worry unless we get to like game 10 and the percentages stay around these levels.

In a small sample size like this, a lot of times it's just random shooting blips that cause a team to look worse than they really are.

We knew the opening schedule was a gauntlet so they just have to get to like 3-7 or 4-6 and then they get a nice break where they should be able to stack some wins.

Schedule makers can really screw teams with early season tough schedules especially back to backers. Teams are still kind of ramping up conditioning and getting in a groove. 3 games in 4 nights was not a nice move by the league.

[bballoctober]

Pretty obvious where the hole in our roster is - we go from around a short 6'6" to 6'10" with only Randle in between. We may be the only team in the NBA without a player in the rotation filling that spot (except for Randle).

That's really not the issue. If size was the issue it would manifest itself on the boards and the Knicks are top 5 in the league in RPG.

The issue is RJ and Hartenstein currently are the only major rotation guy shooting the ball well from the field

Randle 27% from the field
Brunson 37%
Somehow Mitch is at 38%
Grimes at 36%
Hart is at 38%

Knicks aren't the most efficient offense, but they aren't this bad either.

We're also not taking advantage of our high free throw rate either because we're shooting 66% from the stripe.

I'm not going to worry unless we get to like game 10 and the percentages stay around these levels.

In a small sample size like this, a lot of times it's just random shooting blips that cause a team to look worse than they really are.

We knew the opening schedule was a gauntlet so they just have to get to like 3-7 or 4-6 and then they get a nice break where they should be able to stack some wins.

Schedule makers can really screw teams with early season tough schedules especially back to backers. Teams are still kind of ramping up conditioning and getting in a groove. 3 games in 4 nights was not a nice move by the league.

Don’t look now but there’s one this week.

[Montmorencie]

Harden to the Clippers. They really are turning into the second worst org behind Bulls right now.

[WargamesX]

Harden to the Clippers. They really are turning into the second worst org behind Bulls right now.

third behind hornets and bulls.

Lets just be happy were not in that bunch ourselves.

[Knicksfan1992]

Harden to the Clippers. They really are turning into the second worst org behind Bulls right now.

I mean...If they really feel that Harden gives them a meaningful percentage bump on their chances of winning a chip this year, then it makes sense to just go for it and deal with the pick ramifications later. They are not exactly a team built for the future anyway.

That being said, I'm not exactly sure who they were truly bidding against that they had to give up a lot of their depth AND what amounts to essentially 3 1sts for a guy who is known to jet town as soon as things don't go his way.

[WargamesX]

Harden to the Clippers. They really are turning into the second worst org behind Bulls right now.

I mean...If they really feel that Harden gives them a meaningful percentage bump on their chances of winning a chip this year, then it makes sense to just go for it and deal with the pick ramifications later. They are not exactly a team built for the future anyway.

That being said, I'm not exactly sure who they were truly bidding against that they had to give up a lot of their depth AND what amounts to essentially 3 1sts for a guy who is known to jet town as soon as things don't go his way.

Harden's whole career is based on putting teams in bad situations.

[KOA]

I would love for the Knicks to try to get someone like Herbert Jones for IQ + fillers at the deadline.
Pels have loads of SFs with not too many guards and the Knicks have a lot of guards with not too many wing defenders.

Jones can provide similar impact defensively to OG but is signed to a very team friendly deal.

[Knicksfan1992]

I would love for the Knicks to try to get someone like Herbert Jones for IQ + fillers at the deadline.
Pels have loads of SFs with not too many guards and the Knicks have a lot of guards with not too many wing defenders.

Jones can provide similar impact defensively to OG but is signed to a very team friendly deal.

This is kind of the template of trade that I'd be interested to see if the Knicks poke around on for Quickley. I highly doubt they do it because

A) I do believe Thibs loves Quickley
B)Our 2nd unit (and whole team really) desperately needs his perimeter shot creation and ok playmaking
C) I think they want to use him in a trade for a much bigger star instead of a more marginal/asset acquisition move

But a "challenge trade" where we swap Quickley for another team's young player who is on a better contract timeline for us personally could make some sense. Or even targeting someone who has a locked in long term deal that we can be somewhat comfortable with. It could be especially prudent if you can get an extra asset or 2 out of it. It's a tough trade to find because the Knicks probably view Quickley higher than most other teams do.

Some interesting options after looking at the landscape of the league and who needs PG play would be:

Trey Murphy
Patrick Williams
Jalen Suggs
Cole Anthony
Tyler Herro
Austin Reaves
Keldon Johnson
Collin Sexton
Jalen Green
OG Anunoby
Deni Avdija
Ben Mathurin
Aaron Nesmith

[dakomish23]

What's your absolute max offer for Mikal Bridges IF your goal is to add him to the existing rotation? I think he will be made available at current level of play.

Fournier salary is enough. So here's the list of every pick we own and owe

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

My assumption is it would push Grimes to the bench since they don't see to want to bench RJ from the tipoff, but will bench him if he's playing bad to close games.

Brunson
Mikal
RJ
Randle
Mitch

IQ
DDV
Grimes
Hart
Hartenstein

[Jalen Bluntson]

Trade everyone and all of the things!!!!!!!!!!!

[sol537]

I envision a RJ, IQ, iHart plus at least two 1st rounders for Spida trade at the deadline or off-season. Cleveland should reset the clock and keep accumulating under 25 year old talent.

Allen / Mobley / RJ / IQ / Garland with Okoro and iHart off the bench is more time appropriate than trying to grow up too fast with Spida who isn't likely to be there in 1-2 seasons. It could be one of those win-win trades.

[DOT]

I envision a RJ, IQ, iHart plus at least two 1st rounders for Spida trade at the deadline or off-season

Everyone else is out here playing chess, y'all are playing Hungry Hungry Hippos.

[Knicksfan1992]

What's your absolute max offer for Mikal Bridges IF your goal is to add him to the existing rotation? I think he will be made available at current level of play.

Fournier salary is enough. So here's the list of every pick we own and owe

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

My assumption is it would push Grimes to the bench since they don't see to want to bench RJ from the tipoff, but will bench him if he's playing bad to close games.

Brunson
Mikal
RJ
Randle
Mitch

IQ
DDV
Grimes
Hart
Hartenstein

There's very little chance the Nets trade Bridges IMO. He's their most tangible asset from the KD/Kyrie/Harden disaster. From a PR perspective it's what kept them from looking like a complete trainwreck from that. Also, he's the piece that they can sell to a star to come play for them. They lose Mikal for spare parts and what do they have? Basically a bunch of low to mid tier rotation players and whatever the hell Simmons is . They also have zero incentive to tank. They don't have control of their pick until 2027. This same regime were in this exact situation already and they refused to sell off and tank.

On top of all that I find it highly doubtful that they would want to make us, of all teams, better. We'd have to pay 2x more than any other team to get their best player.

[BowlRips]

I envision a RJ, IQ, iHart plus at least two 1st rounders for Spida trade at the deadline or off-season. Cleveland should reset the clock and keep accumulating under 25 year old talent.

Allen / Mobley / RJ / IQ / Garland with Okoro and iHart off the bench is more time appropriate than trying to grow up too fast with Spida who isn't likely to be there in 1-2 seasons. It could be one of those win-win trades.

I could see the Knicks look to make 2 deals at once for two of KAT, Mitchell and OG if they decide to pass on waiting for Embiid.
I could see OG of interest regardless as the 4 next to Embiid.

I think IQ is destined for Toronto. Couldn't be more of a perfect fit and him heading into RFA gives him value to the Raptors.
Is RJ and picks enough for Mitchell?
Really would love to move Randle in these scenarios

[sol537]

I envision a RJ, IQ, iHart plus at least two 1st rounders for Spida trade at the deadline or off-season. Cleveland should reset the clock and keep accumulating under 25 year old talent.

Allen / Mobley / RJ / IQ / Garland with Okoro and iHart off the bench is more time appropriate than trying to grow up too fast with Spida who isn't likely to be there in 1-2 seasons. It could be one of those win-win trades.

I could see the Knicks look to make 2 deals at once for two of KAT, Mitchell and OG if they decide to pass on waiting for Embiid.
I could see OG of interest regardless as the 4 next to Embiid.

I think IQ is destined for Toronto. Couldn't be more of a perfect fit and him heading into RFA gives him value to the Raptors.
Is RJ and picks enough for Mitchell?
Really would love to move Randle in these scenarios

I think there's too much bad blood between TOR and NY and Brooklyn and NY for either team to trade us guys like OG or Bridges, sadly.

We have to look elsewhere and Herb Jones would be a great get but they apparently love him in NO. If I could get Zion + Herb Jones for Mitch, Randle, Grimes, and IQ... you'd have to consider it, at least.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I envision a RJ, IQ, iHart plus at least two 1st rounders for Spida trade at the deadline or off-season. Cleveland should reset the clock and keep accumulating under 25 year old talent.

Allen / Mobley / RJ / IQ / Garland with Okoro and iHart off the bench is more time appropriate than trying to grow up too fast with Spida who isn't likely to be there in 1-2 seasons. It could be one of those win-win trades.

I could see the Knicks look to make 2 deals at once for two of KAT, Mitchell and OG if they decide to pass on waiting for Embiid.
I could see OG of interest regardless as the 4 next to Embiid.

I think IQ is destined for Toronto. Couldn't be more of a perfect fit and him heading into RFA gives him value to the Raptors.
Is RJ and picks enough for Mitchell?
Really would love to move Randle in these scenarios

I think there's too much bad blood between TOR and NY and Brooklyn and NY for either team to trade us guys like OG or Bridges, sadly.

We have to look elsewhere and Herb Jones would be a great get but they apparently love him in NO. If I could get Zion + Herb Jones for Mitch, Randle, Grimes, and IQ... you'd have to consider it, at least.

NOP would not however. They would hang up the phone.

[KNICKFAN374]

What's your absolute max offer for Mikal Bridges IF your goal is to add him to the existing rotation? I think he will be made available at current level of play.

Fournier salary is enough. So here's the list of every pick we own and owe

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

My assumption is it would push Grimes to the bench since they don't see to want to bench RJ from the tipoff, but will bench him if he's playing bad to close games.

Brunson
Mikal
RJ
Randle
Mitch

IQ
DDV
Grimes
Hart
Hartenstein

I would love Mikal on the Knicks, although I doubt the Nets trade him to us for our offer; however, maybe a 3 team trade where Mikal comes to us, Spida goes to Nets & our package headed by RJ/Grimes/draft picks goes to Clev? I haven't played with salary matching yet, but I will.