76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

Negrodamus · Post #41 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:11 pm

Jailblazers7 · Post #42 » by **Jailblazers7** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:15 pm

Seems like our only option is to make him dress & collect DNPs if he wants to get paid & we don’t want to get punished by the league.

MVP1992 · Post #43 » by **MVP1992** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:53 pm

Trade harden and Tobias expirings next season for #1 overall pick and grab Cooper Flag.

My first hot take of the season.

the_process · Post #44 » by **the_process** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:00 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Skates wrote:OG fits well and younger than Siakam, but is only a high end 3 and D with injuries a lot of the time. He would be a great fit, until he got handed a Tobias level contract and we all begin to hate him for being massively overpaid when he does not play up to the deal some team is going to give him.

There's a trifecta of factors playing into the hatred the fanbase has for Tobias.

1. Contract
2. Athleticism
3. Defense

OG will definitely be overpaid, but you don't have to worry about him athletically or defensively.

Look at how much we're willing to overlook with Oubre right now...

OG does want an expanded role on offense... but don't have to worry about him pounding the air out of the rock, either.

GoSixersBro · Post #45 » by **GoSixersBro** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:22 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Skates wrote:OG fits well and younger than Siakam, but is only a high end 3 and D with injuries a lot of the time. He would be a great fit, until he got handed a Tobias level contract and we all begin to hate him for being massively overpaid when he does not play up to the deal some team is going to give him.

There's a trifecta of factors playing into the hatred the fanbase has for Tobias.

1. Contract
2. Athleticism
3. Defense

OG will definitely be overpaid, but you don't have to worry about him athletically or defensively.

Look at how much we're willing to overlook with Oubre right now...

Also timidness in big moments. Harris enjoys getting his 20 in low pressure scenarios.

GuideDog · Post #46 » by **GuideDog** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:02 am

At this point, I would trade Harden (throw in Tucker) for Hield and Obi Toppin. We need a better rebounder next to Embiid.

Skates · Post #47 » by **Skates** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:05 am

the_process wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
Skates wrote:OG fits well and younger than Siakam, but is only a high end 3 and D with injuries a lot of the time. He would be a great fit, until he got handed a Tobias level contract and we all begin to hate him for being massively overpaid when he does not play up to the deal some team is going to give him.

There's a trifecta of factors playing into the hatred the fanbase has for Tobias.

1. Contract
2. Athleticism
3. Defense

OG will definitely be overpaid, but you don't have to worry about him athletically or defensively.

Look at how much we're willing to overlook with Oubre right now...

OG does want an expanded role on offense... but don't have to worry about him pounding the air out of the rock, either.

I’ve been a big OG fan for a long time, but guys like that tend to go from under to over rated quickly. Try to break down Tobi being overpaid all you like, but overpaying a high end role player who cannot manufacture their own shot is always going to create an untradeable contract. Different strengths and weaknesses than Tobi, but over paid and clogging up the cap is the same no matter what makes you good being while paid for great.

76ciology · Post #48 » by **76ciology** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:33 am

MVP1992 wrote:Trade harden and Tobias expirings next season for #1 overall pick and grab Cooper Flag.

My first hot take of the season.

Last time i heard is he’s not gonna enter the 2024 draft.

76ciology · Post #49 » by **76ciology** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:42 am

That’s why I’d rather have Siakam than OG.

Siakam is better at creating shots, better play maker and solves a lot of our size problem on defense. He can justify a 40M per year contract alone and is a good fit with our roster.

If Siakam and Biid are together, it will put us over the Celts and put a lot of pressure unto opponents frontcourt.
Both Biid and Siakam have unique combination of size, quickness and skillset that creates mismatch against anyone.

You also can rest Biid with more games and rely on Maxey and Siakam’s scoring where Nurse is familiar with Siakam on offense.

You are paying a very expensive 3&D guy with OG. Where you’d basically just put him at a corner and space the floor for you like what Tucker is doing. OG is a 15ppg guy in today’s NBA. That’s like 10ppg 10 years ago without the inflation.

40M per year for a 15ppg wing?
3-4 first round picks for a 15ppg wing (rumored price during the deadline)?
That’s not gonna happen in today’s scoring driven NBA.

And best of all.. Siakam sounds to be cheaper than OG because of the UFA status and the fit issue with Barnes.

Siakam can also dictate where he wants to go (our secret sauce on why we are in the mix) and thats also the reason why he still isnt traded to the Hawks for mid players and a couple of firsts during the offseason.

mithrandir17 · Post #50 » by **mithrandir17** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:03 am

Read on Twitter

It's happening!

76ciology · Post #51 » by **76ciology** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:04 am

Harden traded!!!

Arsenal · Post #52 » by **Arsenal** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:20 pm

Did we pick up Jaden Springer's option? I think today is the deadline. If not I disagree with the decision, which would be to maximize cap space next summer I assume.

ProcessDoctor · Post #53 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 12:32 pm

Miami Heat off to a 1-3 start. Need to be rooting hard against them leading up to the deadline.

Arsenal · Post #54 » by **Arsenal** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 12:36 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Miami Heat off to a 1-3 start. Need to be rooting hard against them leading up to the deadline.

Their fans are already ripping their cheap owner for refusing to pay any luxury tax, and assuming Jimmy wants out because of that. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Butler wants out this year.

ProcessDoctor · Post #55 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 1:14 pm

Arsenal wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Miami Heat off to a 1-3 start. Need to be rooting hard against them leading up to the deadline.

Their fans are already ripping their cheap owner for refusing to pay any luxury tax, and assuming Jimmy wants out because of that. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Butler wants out this year.

Imagine winning a chip with Maxey, Butler, Covington, and Embiid.

Embiid P · Post #56 » by **Embiid P** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 1:58 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Miami Heat off to a 1-3 start. Need to be rooting hard against them leading up to the deadline.

Their fans are already ripping their cheap owner for refusing to pay any luxury tax, and assuming Jimmy wants out because of that. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Butler wants out this year.

Imagine winning a chip with Maxey, Butler, Covington, and Embiid.

Might as well bring back TJ and ask JJ to come out of retirement for another run. And that guy in Brooklyn...oh wait...nevermind lol.

But for real just a few weeks ago folks were talking about Embiid re-uniting with Jimmy in Miami. Imagine if the exact opposite were to happen before the deadline.

Post #57 » by **Stanford** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 3:16 pm

The Heat were awful in the regular season last year too.

fkd215 · Post #58 » by **fkd215** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 3:58 pm

Given all the forwards on the roster now, I wonder if we try to trade Tobi.

76ciology · Post #59 » by **76ciology** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 4:12 pm

fkd215 wrote:Given all the forwards on the roster now, I wonder if we try to trade Tobi.

No. Who’s gonna be our third option then? Oubre?

Trivia:

2020-2021 Tobias (before Harden trade)
+1.4 RAPTOR +5.4 WAR

2022-2023 OG
+1.4 RAPTOR +5.1 WAR

76ciology · Post #60 » by **76ciology** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 5:04 pm

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