Safe to say, Chet "Hologram" Holgrem > Paolo Banchero

[CobraCommander]

Too early by far. Trae was the very clear consensus second best player of the 2018 draft for the first 3 years minimum but now pretty much everyone would say it is SGA and some would have Trae behind guys like JJJ, Bridges, Brunson. Chet has played 4 games to mixed, but very promising results.

Your post is both underrated and highly confusing.

I agree with you and assessment and completely disagree with you assessment of Trae...well played

[Roger Murdock]

Does anyone remember how outrageously good Paolo was the first 10-15 games last year. He looked like a sure fire MVP

Let’s cool it a bit

[Frank Dux]

The Magic have been starved for talent. They needed a guy who could come in right away and contribute every night. Chet doesn’t really fit the bill. Already missed a season, and his future remains a question mark due to his slight frame. I really hope Chet stays healthy, he’s a fun player to watch, and he’s really competitive. But Banchero just carries a lot less risk.

[Hoppy1]

Especially with how the NBA is changing over the years.

Advantages Chet over Paolo:
- Can scale well offensively with ball-dominamt teammates
- Can actually shoot 3s at high volume
- Legit rim-protector

Paolo:
- can better create his own offense? But he needs the ball in his hands to have impact on the game.

Paolo is still going to a decent or even great player, but Chet looks "generational", especially if he manages to fill up his frame. Magic done goofed.

Don't know yet, but early returns suggest so. As the league keeps adjusting, any player over 6'9" that cannot consistently hit a 3, will be relegated to being a center.

[GeorgeSears]

I always felt that way. Chet's got the entire package offensively. His only impediment is his size. As Jokic said, he needs to be a "little" fatter. Not too much to take away from his mobility, but enough to absorb some blows in the paint.

I see nothing special in Banchero. He's a high volume, low efficiency small forward in a power forward's body.

[XTC]

His ROY campaign seemed very Tyreke Evans-esque to me. Just by the eye test Franz Wagner seems like the best player on the Magic.

His raw stats where incredible 20/7/4, but he pretty much had the green light to do as he pleased. His team was better with him off the court than on it. He had a below league average PER, and he had mediocre efficiency.

There's tons of stuff to like about him though, he's a very good passer, he's strong, and he's elite at drawing fouls. If he could scale back his shooting, and embrace being a point forward, he's going to take the Magic to another level.

[GeorgeSears]

Chet is a twig atm and I wouldn’t put money on him staying injury free with that frame

Even if he doesn't stay healthy, his impact on a game is so much greater than Banchero's.

Banchero is literally contributing negatively to winning. The more Banchero plays, the worse for the Magic. The less Holmgren plays, the worse for the Thunder.

My least favorite player type is the high volume PF. These are the Julius Randle types, Michael Beasley, and now Banchero. You can't win with those guys.

[MrGoat]

Way too early for this. Neither one of them is close to being a finished product

[zero rings]

Chet was the best college big man since Anthony Davis and should have been the consensus #1 pick. People were so caught up in how skinny he was that they completely ignored how good he was.

Paolo was nothing special at Duke, an inefficient volume scorer with a big body. And that’s exactly what he’s been in the NBA so far.

[TheNewEra]

It's safe to say after one guy has played an entire season and the other guy has played a few games in his entire career?

Not to mention their roles are completely different and one plays on a team with an established superstar and young, upcoming guys while the other is essentially tasked with carrying the team himself

That’s not really true when Franz has been the better player before and now over Banchero. Also the Magic have a great balanced team I wouldn’t say the roster is that far off from OKC. Just SGA is more experienced and established over Wagner.

If nothing else Banchero can hit 75% of his potential the Magic should be a locked in playoff team very soon.

[Rendei]

I see nothing special in Banchero. He's a high volume, low efficiency small forward in a power forward's body.

That's what we're basing it on?
Lebron's rookie season: 20.9 ppg on 48.8% TS.
Banchero's rookie season: 20 ppg on 52.9% TS.

[sodmoraes]

Chet can be bullied down in the post by teenagers. He´s good, but i dont know if he will be able to play center with his anorexic frame in the long term.

[cupcakesnake]

I haven't watched much Banchero's game, is he similar to Tobias Harris?

I'd say he's a rich man's version of Tobias, but with improved ballhandling, passing and playmaking.

But, all of this, comparing a 21-year old with a prime Tobias. So Banchero can (and will) improve on what he is right now.

I like Banchero and I would definitely pick him over Chet. The issue with Chet is durability.

Banchero's archetype (a big, versatile wing who can serve as a team's primary scorer) is very easy to identify as a success mold in the NBA's history. Many champions and contenders had a similar player like him as their best player.

The issue with Banchero is how much better he can get, and if, over time, he could be good enough to be the best player on a contender, or if he would need a better player alongside him. That I still don't know, need to see his development curve, it's too early to tell.

Paolo is 3 inches taller than Tobias Harris (6'9" vs. 6'6.5" no shoe measurement) and on another level athletically. Paolo's game is much more built on force: speed, strength, explosiveness, and a bigger body. Paolo has not figured out his offensive role in the NBA yet, but the one thing people couldn't do in year 1 was keep him out of the paint without fouling (10.6 FTA per 100).

I don't think there is a good player comp for him just because there aren't any guys at his size playing that way. Like he's bigger than Lebron or Julius Randle. Size wise he's closer to Sabonis or Ben Simmons. I don't know what Paolo is yet but I know he's got some rare gifts.

[The Servant]

I am very pleased with how HolmGOAT fits into the Thunder's line up, and all things considered (as long as they are both healthy) I prefer Chet's shot blocking, 3 point shooting, and ability to catch lobs plus his upside for the Thunder.

That being said Paolo is excellent and any team would be more than lucky to take either guy. Paolo's handle is a bit tighter and he is more suited to be a focal point for a team's offence. I also can't blame the Magic for going with someone who looks like they would potentially be less injury prone and more NBA ready.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

I mean Paolo started off the season pretty slow...but he looks like a guy who can maybe get 25 or more in his prime with 5 or so assists, hopefully efficiently...it's pretty early yet. Those guys obviously go at or near the top of drafts in the nba.

I don't love Paolo or anything, but the OP seems to prime people to defend him, so there's my take.

[madmaxmedia]

Chet can be bullied down in the post by teenagers. He´s good, but i dont know if he will be able to play center with his anorexic frame in the long term.

Just the other day I shook him down for his lunch money (and it was a LOT of money.)

[Jadoogar]

I had Chet #1 but it's obviously way too early to determine anything conclusively.

[JRoy]

Chet can be bullied down in the post by teenagers. He´s good, but i dont know if he will be able to play center with his anorexic frame in the long term.

Just the other day I shook him down for his lunch money (and it was a LOT of money.)

Too bad he needs big lunches.

[GWVan]

Chet looks "generational"

After 3 games I think we can pass the baton, Lebron, Steph, and KD can all retire now

[uraverage]

First NBA season 72 vs 0 games played.. which one you picking.