Who is Paolo Banchero?

[Skybox]

SAS needs a bruiser next to Wemby and has an abundance of wings. We have a PF at Center (call him a combo big-which is a good thing) in WCJ. Let's make a deal that's a win-win.

[zaymon]

Mosley is not giving Banchero any favours. He the most minutes next to Fultz and WCJ who are both scared to shoot right now. You would think perfect partner is Ingles but nope only 7 minutes together.
As much as i like Mosley and his positive energy i would think about changing coach next year.

Ingles is the most scared to shoot of everybody... shooting 1.7 attempts a game.

I won't address coach thing I've spoken on it before. Let's not repeat past 10 years of changing coaches and then realizing "Oh, roster just sucked no matter who the coach is" when people don't like rotations. I look at every reddit or message board after teams lose.. saw OKC coach (Mark something), Carlisle, Monty Williams tonight all get called out for "trash rotation" or "not playing rookies" or "losing the game" and every fanbase thinks coaching is just some "find guy who yells a lot because that means they care more" and voila, rotation and shooting is fixed. Kerr looked hopeless the year Curry was out but looks like an offensive wizard when he's there.

Roster isn't doing him favors - two vets on expiring contracts who probably don't have a future here but probably need to play because of spacing, 2 rookies in an already crowded young rotation, Suggs who is playing his ass off and a huge part of us being a great defense, and Fultz, who has glaring weaknesses in shooting and FT but isn't a sieve on defense like Cole who isn't a natural PG and Suggs can't exactly dribble.

If season's hope rest on Gary Harris starting or not, we're more **** than anyone imagined... people need to be patient with 2nd year Paolo but also hold him accountable too. He made good plays when he was doubled, especially the first game, didn't mind him being less aggressive there.. but since then.. yuck.

If he can't hit OPEN jumpers or three or free throws, you can't blame the coach or others for that.. suddenly he is not doing his job as a proclaimed three level scorer. I saw him brick open shots and easy close to the basket plays and it''s not like he was getting swarmed by defenders and taking Doncic level contested threes and no easy baskets.

No young star has a perfectly built team around them in their first few years. Scottie Barnes has awkward fits on the team, OKC fans are begging for Chet to play next to a bruiser, Cade has spacing issues with Ausar/Killian/Duren.. Wemby has guys that don't know how to feed him easy buckets yet..

I'm pro young players more than anyone on this team, but damn sure not going to coddle them and make excuses when they play worse than I've seen them play and point at everything else. It starts with Paolo and Franz, even if there are small things to make them do better in the most optimal settings.

He needs to play better in spite of not an ideal backcourt yet.

Joe Ingles strikes you as shy guy ? I think you wrote it just to disagree with me. First you dont blame spot up shooter he doesnt create looks for himself, second Ingles is one of few players opposing teams actually defend on the perimeter. After first game Cole Anthony forgot he has teammates.

I dont use coaching argument lightly, last time i used it 6 years ago. Mosley repeats same mistakes every year. Yes roster doesnt do him any favors, but i critized him even after 2 wins so its not my immature emotional reaction.

[G-Heel]

man some of this stuff is hilarious....this all it takes to turn on our 2nd year player after game 4 of 82? we gave AG 7 seasons and some of us are like "i'd trade banchero today".....foh

People are being so dramatic. Are we disappointed Paolo has started out slow? Yes, of course we want our guys to succeed. But it's a growing process. I can't think of any players that didn't have bad stretches, especially early in their career. Our GM/coach aren't doing him a favor by putting these noncomplimentary pieces around him.

Right now he's hitting a rough patch. The FT is concerning, it's like he's losing confidence, and he needs to figure out if he's going to be great. I'm just going to enjoy the ride and hope we're watching an all time great maturing in front of us.

[Rainwater]

man some of this stuff is hilarious....this all it takes to turn on our 2nd year player after game 4 of 82? we gave AG 7 seasons and some of us are like "i'd trade banchero today".....foh

Lol, that is a really good point. Same fan base who gave AG and Fultz season after season of slack is now calling for Paolo’s head 5 games into his second season.

If this were happening in year 3 or 4 I would be concerned but give this man a chance, lol.

[VFX]

man some of this stuff is hilarious....this all it takes to turn on our 2nd year player after game 4 of 82? we gave AG 7 seasons and some of us are like "i'd trade banchero today".....foh

Lol, that is a really good point. Same fan base who gave AG and Fultz season after season of slack is now calling for Paolo’s head 5 games into his second season.

If this happening in year 3 or 4 I would be concerned but give this man a chance, lol.

I dont think anyone serious should be calling to trade Banchero. That is absurd.

People just have to lower their expectations and realize that he needs to develop an actual game. How quickly that happens will depend on how Mosely and the FO decide to utilize him with the available personnel.

I've just come to realize that Paolo isn't like Franz in how they operate on offense. You can't just hand him the ball and watch him takeover. He isn't that guy. He will require an actual system to thrive in. Maybe he proves me wrong in that assessment. Hopefully.

[Rainwater]

man some of this stuff is hilarious....this all it takes to turn on our 2nd year player after game 4 of 82? we gave AG 7 seasons and some of us are like "i'd trade banchero today".....foh

Lol, that is a really good point. Same fan base who gave AG and Fultz season after season of slack is now calling for Paolo’s head 5 games into his second season.

If this happening in year 3 or 4 I would be concerned but give this man a chance, lol.

I dont think anyone serious should be calling to trade Banchero. That is absurd.

People just have to lower their expectations and realize that he needs to develop an actual game. How quickly that happens will depend on how Mosely and the FO decide to utilize him with the available personnel.

I've just come to realize that Paolo isn't like Franz in how they operate on offense. You can't just hand him the ball and watch him takeover. He isn't that guy. He will require an actual system to thrive in. Maybe he proves me wrong in that assessment. Hopefully.

I just personally think he will be fine and people are overreacting. It’s only been 4 games I feel like we need to give a young guy at least 3 to 4 years before we determine what type of player he will be.

I feel like the same thing happened to Cade last year. Before he got hurt, 4 games in, he started off poorly and people started to question him. Then he went off. I wish people were just patient.

[Darth Magic]

man some of this stuff is hilarious....this all it takes to turn on our 2nd year player after game 4 of 82? we gave AG 7 seasons and some of us are like "i'd trade banchero today".....foh

I'm glad you brought up AG cause I didn't want him either. And I could tell you from year 1 he would never be what we wanted him to be. And that we were using him incorrectly. Please don't give me flashbacks talking about 7 seasons of AG. The trauma is still real.

[Darth Magic]

Not exactly wide open spaces for paolo....i mean he has to be better and he has to make shots but man....we're not making it easy for the kid....one thing i'm wondering now in hindsight is why didn't mose experiment just a bit more with with different lineups in the preseason....didn't get to see jett or AB play with the starters.....maybe Cole/Jett/Houstan/Franz/Paolo....Fultz/Gary/Franz/Paolo/JI....Cole/Suggs/AB/Moe/Goga.....never got to see it.....there's interesting lineups that i would've been interested in just seeing it live....

What a sad image

[Blue_and_Whte]

The league has adjusted to Paolo, it’s on him and the coaching staff to counter. We’re 4 games in, anyone calling for a trade of our 2nd year player should pick up another sport. This fan base has give much less talented players more than 2 years. I like Markelle’s game outside of his complete inability to spread the floor. It’s annoying more than it has in the past.

[KillMonger]

man some of this stuff is hilarious....this all it takes to turn on our 2nd year player after game 4 of 82? we gave AG 7 seasons and some of us are like "i'd trade banchero today".....foh

Lol, that is a really good point. Same fan base who gave AG and Fultz season after season of slack is now calling for Paolo’s head 5 games into his second season.

If this happening in year 3 or 4 I would be concerned but give this man a chance, lol.

I dont think anyone serious should be calling to trade Banchero. That is absurd.

People just have to lower their expectations and realize that he needs to develop an actual game. How quickly that happens will depend on how Mosely and the FO decide to utilize him with the available personnel.

I've just come to realize that Paolo isn't like Franz in how they operate on offense. You can't just hand him the ball and watch him takeover. He isn't that guy. He will require an actual system to thrive in. Maybe he proves me wrong in that assessment. Hopefully.

He can be an engine offensively, he's just not where he needs to be just yet in terms of development.....what he's doing now is just off raw physicality and skill.....As of now he just needs to be better and the coaching staff has to help him there....how many times have i beat the drum that we need to run set plays for paolo? you can look up my post history i've been saying this since last season, where i noticed that everything with paolo is just him creating in isolation or him getting buckets in transition.....new year same ish.....every year people expect players to get better in the offseason but you should also hold coaching to that same standard

[D12VCMagic]

Nobody should want to trade the guy, but people definitely are right to be concerned. Even though he won ROY he did so on absolute horrible efficiency and he’s even more inefficient to start the season this year. Jalen Green is a punching bag for many NBA fans but he is a more efficient scorer than Paolo.

Paolo does have size and playmaking, but he HAS to start figuring out how to score efficiently or else he won’t be the star people want him to be. He needs to work on finishing at the rim and stop looking for contact. Especially since he’s been unreliable at the foul line when he gets calls anyways. This FO and coaching staff can help him with some actual spacing and attempt to run a modern NBA offense too.

[Last Guardian]

Paolo is our future and we should be lenient but we don't need to make bad excuses for him either. He's missing shots he should be making. He's missing FREE THROWS. This isn't on Fultz and Suggs because they can't shoot lol. Paolo can make the shots he's taken lets not act like anyone else is at fault here. It will never be super easy for him...he's the #1 option...teams defensive strategy will be to stop him. His own critique of himself may be super obvious but it is the only correct one "I just have to make shots".

If Paolo needs 4 shooters around him like Dwight Howard did...then he's simply not good enough as a #1 option. T-Mac averaged 30 on a team that had no talent outside of him and didn't have the spacing that todays game has and played against MUCH better defenses. The whole point of KD like scoring is that it doesn't matter who his teammates are or what your defensive strategy is, there is nothing that can really be done to stop him. This is what we need Paolo to be. And then we can build the proper team around that.

[Bakomagic]

The league has adjusted to Paolo, it’s on him and the coaching staff to counter. We’re 4 games in, anyone calling for a trade of our 2nd year player should pick up another sport. This fan base has give much less talented players more than 2 years. I like Markelle’s game outside of his complete inability to spread the floor. It’s annoying more than it has in the past.

The adjustment the league has made is simple, crowd Paolo.

3P %
Fultz- ZERO
Suggs- 30%
Franz- 33%
Wendell- 20%
J.Ingles- ZERO
J. Isaac- 29%

Even Giannis and Zion would struggle if this is what they were surrounded by!

End the Markelle Fultz era, he has regressed, he has not tried the pull-up 3 that he has stated he would this year and is no longer even attempting 3s at all, averaging less than 1 a game.

[ibraheim718]

The league has adjusted to Paolo, it’s on him and the coaching staff to counter. We’re 4 games in, anyone calling for a trade of our 2nd year player should pick up another sport. This fan base has give much less talented players more than 2 years. I like Markelle’s game outside of his complete inability to spread the floor. It’s annoying more than it has in the past.

The adjustment the league has made is simple, crowd Paolo.

3P %
Fultz- ZERO
Suggs- 30%
Franz- 33%
Wendell- 20%
J.Ingles- ZERO
J. Isaac- 29%

Even Giannis and Zion would struggle if this is what they were surrounded by!

End the Markelle Fultz era, he has regressed, he has not tried the pull-up 3 that he has stated he would this year and is no longer even attempting 3s at all, averaging less than 1 a game.

This is ridiculous. They can sag off of him because HE can't shoot. Y'all want to blame it on other players but the truth is HE can stretch the defense himself if he could be even a little threat from even just the mid-range he could make the defense respect his j and it would make it easier for him to drive.

Like that other screenshot.. they can sag on him because they know he ain't passing it out.. he has his back turned to one half of the floor. Look at it.. it's right there.

[eyriq]

Paolo is our future and we should be lenient but we don't need to make bad excuses for him either. He's missing shots he should be making. He's missing FREE THROWS. This isn't on Fultz and Suggs because they can't shoot lol. Paolo can make the shots he's taken lets not act like anyone else is at fault here. It will never be super easy for him...he's the #1 option...teams defensive strategy will be to stop him. His own critique of himself may be super obvious but it is the only correct one "I just have to make shots".

If Paolo needs 4 shooters around him like Dwight Howard did...then he's simply not good enough as a #1 option. T-Mac averaged 30 on a team that had no talent outside of him and didn't have the spacing that todays game has and played against MUCH better defenses. The whole point of KD like scoring is that it doesn't matter who his teammates are or what your defensive strategy is, there is nothing that can really be done to stop him. This is what we need Paolo to be. And then we can build the proper team around that.

Hmmm, I hadn't considered this angle. Interesting stuff, you are on point lately.

[VFX]

Paolo is our future and we should be lenient but we don't need to make bad excuses for him either. He's missing shots he should be making. He's missing FREE THROWS. This isn't on Fultz and Suggs because they can't shoot lol. Paolo can make the shots he's taken lets not act like anyone else is at fault here. It will never be super easy for him...he's the #1 option...teams defensive strategy will be to stop him. His own critique of himself may be super obvious but it is the only correct one "I just have to make shots".

If Paolo needs 4 shooters around him like Dwight Howard did...then he's simply not good enough as a #1 option. T-Mac averaged 30 on a team that had no talent outside of him and didn't have the spacing that todays game has and played against MUCH better defenses. The whole point of KD like scoring is that it doesn't matter who his teammates are or what your defensive strategy is, there is nothing that can really be done to stop him. This is what we need Paolo to be. And then we can build the proper team around that.

It isnt their fault for not being shooters that Paolo isnt thriving in this offense. Thats a part of a larger problem for the offense as a whole.

It's Fultz lack of shooting that limits him from being able to run action with Paolo in a completely set half court. I'm not going to regurgitate the clips people have already posted showing why its ineffective. We all see it and it isnt 100% a "Paolo problem" It's the FO's fault for not putting a roster together capable of getting Paolo in these set-plays to highlight his strengths.

Lets for a second assume Paolo IS NOT the #1 option on offense (whatever that means) and say its Franz (who it most likely is). They play completely different games as well as does TMAC (your example). They are tasking a second year player to operate in a clogged paint defensively. The only thing he can do with that is learn how to hit outside shots off the catch... That doesn't completely solve the offense. Even Dallas had to figure out who to put next to Doncic, who can create offense out of thin air.

[Bensational]

Paolo is entirely capable of playing himself out of the poor performances he’s been having, and it just comes down to two simple principles: make shots and make smarter plays.

People are bending over backwards at the moment trying to pretend Paolo hasn’t looked like PG AG, and has been making the same moves and mistakes that infuriated them then. Struggling to beat his man off the dribble, driving into clogged lanes, turnaround fadeaways from midrange. “Oh what, does AG need an entire team to space the floor for him just so he can get to the hoop?” has now become “Paolo needs an entire team to space the floor for him so he can get to the hoop!”

If Paolo cuts down on unforced errors, looks to move the ball and looks to get shots within the flow of the offense then his efficiency will pick back up, plus his confidence, and his effective forms of creation will emerge from that.

[pepe1991]

Paolo is already better player than Gordon will ever be.

[SOUL]

I don't get the "freeze frame on open players" - happens to literally every NBA player in the league. I clicked a random video and this was the first 3 seconds, Booker still shot it despite having three guys who shoot over 35% from three as options to kick it to.. the best team in the league still left all of them wide ass open because Booker himself is a threat.



Not arguing against spacing or three pointers at all, we need it.. but if the argument is that defenses pack the paint against Paolo and dare him to pass it, it happens to every player in the league. HE needs to play better as well because I can post about 15 plays where he has space to do whatever he wants.

[RookieStar]

SAS needs a bruiser next to Wemby and has an abundance of wings. We have a PF at Center (call him a combo big-which is a good thing) in WCJ. Let's make a deal that's a win-win.

Collins + ______ for Fultz and WCJ? They get a bruising big plus a PG they really need.