(LOCK THREAD) The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Thread - 40K POINTS+(Part 1)(NO INSULTING)

[dcstanley]

I'll just say that Christian Wood is wayyyyy better defensively than I thought he'd be.

He's actually quite mobile for a big guy and a good rebounder. Playing with Lebron obviously simplifies reads for him on D and that's why those bench lineups with him and Bron have been dominating.

Similar to how JR Smith looked amazing defensively as Cav when before he was just known as an offensive player.

He looks genuinely good on wings and servicable on centers

He's seems like the perfect guy to put next to Davis who oversees the entire defense

Also helps that he could man the backline and grab boards when AD is out contesting. AD is probably the team's best option to guard KD and even Kawhi so Wood's size and rebounding ability makes AD as a wing defender a genuine option.

[Thaatsitfrom93]

I remember checking this thread religiously back in 2010-2011 because people were noticing his athletic decline and had me convinced the man would be washed by 2015.


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He appeared heavier in 11. The thing is LBJ 09 and 10 was so damn athletic that even a slight more weight is noticeable.

He then lost some weight and looked better by 12 and 13. Then he sustained.

I believe now with age/injuries the decline is bigger, but even with that he's still a freak. Just not as much of a freak as he once was.

Call me crazy but I think he'll still be very capable of 25/7/7 type of lines until 2025.

Very true. Dude was extremely athletic and we over analyzed a bit because the man wasn’t getting his forehead above the rim on a couple dunks. Just funny looking back 12 years later as we near the finishline

[Heej]

Didn't see the full game but it seems like Bron started slow again.

4th quarter stats are mind blowing. 5-6 FG and a bunch of rebounds and assists.

Good he can keep his energy for late in the game, it's just concerning that LA is always losing at the half. They need to figure out ways to be better when not playing Bron ball, cause Bron ball might get em far but not the promised land.

The most encouraging part of the game by far to me is that there was a stretch in the second half where LeBron went to the bench and the players went on a 13-4 run and cut down the Clipper lead while LeBron was sitting.

The offense is annoying to me because I like to see a lot of the off-ball stuff that other teams do but the Lakers never run. But I find that off-ball stuff is gimmicky in a sense in that they get gameplanned easier against in a series and get shuts down often late in games. The pick and roll heavy offense looks janky but at least it provides a baseline level of offensive consistency when they use the right sets vs the current defensive alignment

The three big lineup went hard lol

Our spacing can be a bit off at times when we run 5 out and don’t do any weakside stuff and they stunt on our drives, but brons so good at operating out of that alignment in general

Lmao they def cloned Ham and replaced him cuz ain't no way we ran that . Tell me how Lakers Reddit hates him so much they call him Darvin Hamas LMFAO

[AEnigma]

Good on him then for showing solidarity and turning that into a compliment.

[MyUniBroDavis]

The most encouraging part of the game by far to me is that there was a stretch in the second half where LeBron went to the bench and the players went on a 13-4 run and cut down the Clipper lead while LeBron was sitting.

The offense is annoying to me because I like to see a lot of the off-ball stuff that other teams do but the Lakers never run. But I find that off-ball stuff is gimmicky in a sense in that they get gameplanned easier against in a series and get shuts down often late in games. The pick and roll heavy offense looks janky but at least it provides a baseline level of offensive consistency when they use the right sets vs the current defensive alignment

The three big lineup went hard lol

Our spacing can be a bit off at times when we run 5 out and don’t do any weakside stuff and they stunt on our drives, but brons so good at operating out of that alignment in general

Lmao they def cloned Ham and replaced him cuz ain't no way we ran that . Tell me how Lakers Reddit hates him so much they call him Darvin Hamas LMFAO

Pockets is hilarious lol

I generally like Ham, he’s not the best coach in the league or anything but other than weird rotations sometimes he’s solid

[Joao Saraiva]

The three big lineup went hard lol

Our spacing can be a bit off at times when we run 5 out and don’t do any weakside stuff and they stunt on our drives, but brons so good at operating out of that alignment in general

Lmao they def cloned Ham and replaced him cuz ain't no way we ran that . Tell me how Lakers Reddit hates him so much they call him Darvin Hamas LMFAO

Pockets is hilarious lol

I generally like Ham, he’s not the best coach in the league or anything but other than weird rotations sometimes he’s solid

I still believe LA made a mistake by replacing Vogel. But that's just me.

[rk2023]

Lmao they def cloned Ham and replaced him cuz ain't no way we ran that . Tell me how Lakers Reddit hates him so much they call him Darvin Hamas LMFAO

Pockets is hilarious lol

I generally like Ham, he’s not the best coach in the league or anything but other than weird rotations sometimes he’s solid

I still believe LA made a mistake by replacing Vogel. But that's just me.

I prefer Ham, as I think Vogel's offensive strategy with a declining James and Davis could get ugly more often than not. While not a Princeton offense - esque innovator by any means, Ham has actually been solid when it comes to the offensive playbook. The team is just shooting decently under E(V) right now (which might be more a referendum if it doesn't regress after a while of play though).

[Joao Saraiva]

Pockets is hilarious lol

I generally like Ham, he’s not the best coach in the league or anything but other than weird rotations sometimes he’s solid

I still believe LA made a mistake by replacing Vogel. But that's just me.

I prefer Ham, as I think Vogel's offensive strategy with a declining James and Davis could get ugly more often than not. While not a Princeton offense - esque innovator by any means, Ham has actually been solid when it comes to the offensive playbook. The team is just shooting decently under E(V) right now (which might be more a referendum if it doesn't regress after a while of play though).

I liked Vogel for defense. But I think LA messed up with the players they let go after being champions and the Westbrook trade. I hardly fault him for what happened next, I think he just didn't have the correct pieces to be successfull.

[McBubbles]

I think most of the talks of Lebron's decline came from him being injured in 2015 and no one caring enough to bring up the fact he was injured because it's Lebron lol. He's 30 + his stats declining + general Lebron has no bag nonsense = he'll age horribly.

[trickshot]

Lakers are a bad OT team. LeBron in particular has a weird OT phobia.

This is about to be a terrible loss for LA. This team is so bad with leads late.

this post aged well.

Lakers have actually been clutch since the trade, all the way from the end of the season to the first and second rounds before the Denver series. Was Westbrook's Lakers he must have had in mind.

[Homer38]

I think most of the talks of Lebron's decline came from him being injured in 2015 and no one caring enough to bring up the fact he was injured because it's Lebron lol. He's 30 + his stats declining + general Lebron has no bag nonsense = he'll age horribly.

I remember this like yesterday....I also remember in the 2014 season when some people thought his days of scoring 40 points in a game were almost over...4 years later he had 8 40 game points in a playoff run, the most since Jerry West in the 1960s!

[McBubbles]

I think most of the talks of Lebron's decline came from him being injured in 2015 and no one caring enough to bring up the fact he was injured because it's Lebron lol. He's 30 + his stats declining + general Lebron has no bag nonsense = he'll age horribly.

I remember this like yesterday....I also remember in the 2014 season when some people thought his days of scoring 40 points in a game were almost over...4 years later he had 8 40 game points in a playoff run, the most since Jerry West in the 1960s!

Most sports fans just aren't interested in sports at all man. The Miami Heat were consistently one of the slowest paced teams in the league, AND Lebron had Wade and Bosh to share the ball with. Despite that, Lebron was so disgustingly efficient that in 2014 he was averaging 27 points a game on 17 and a half shots. That season Lebron was 10th in Field Goal Attempts and 3RD in Points Scored. That was literally Lebron at his offensive peak.

But yeah nah he's not a streaky gunner like Kobe so he's obviously declining Hell people were saying Canelo was a better scorer than Lebron up until about 2018.

Even when I was at my most casual and just only got into basketball I looked at stats. It amazes me that 90% + of fans don't, especially considering basketball is of the most information heavy and stat friendly sports on the planet.

[MyUniBroDavis]

I think most of the talks of Lebron's decline came from him being injured in 2015 and no one caring enough to bring up the fact he was injured because it's Lebron lol. He's 30 + his stats declining + general Lebron has no bag nonsense = he'll age horribly.

I remember this like yesterday....I also remember in the 2014 season when some people thought his days of scoring 40 points in a game were almost over...4 years later he had 8 40 game points in a playoff run, the most since Jerry West in the 1960s!

Most sports fans just aren't interested in sports at all man. The Miami Heat were consistently one of the slowest paced teams in the league, AND Lebron had Wade and Bosh to share the ball with. Despite that, Lebron was so disgustingly efficient that in 2014 he was averaging 27 points a game on 17 and a half shots. That season Lebron was 10th in Field Goal Attempts and 3RD in Points Scored. That was literally Lebron at his offensive peak.

But yeah nah he's not a streaky gunner like Kobe so he's obviously declining Hell people were saying Canelo was a better scorer than Lebron up until about 2018.

Even when I was at my most casual and just only got into basketball I looked at stats. It amazes me that 90% + of fans don't, especially considering basketball is of the most information heavy and stat friendly sports on the planet.

Baseball lol


I think people thinking he’d decline were fair

[McBubbles]

I remember this like yesterday....I also remember in the 2014 season when some people thought his days of scoring 40 points in a game were almost over...4 years later he had 8 40 game points in a playoff run, the most since Jerry West in the 1960s!

Most sports fans just aren't interested in sports at all man. The Miami Heat were consistently one of the slowest paced teams in the league, AND Lebron had Wade and Bosh to share the ball with. Despite that, Lebron was so disgustingly efficient that in 2014 he was averaging 27 points a game on 17 and a half shots. That season Lebron was 10th in Field Goal Attempts and 3RD in Points Scored. That was literally Lebron at his offensive peak.

But yeah nah he's not a streaky gunner like Kobe so he's obviously declining Hell people were saying Canelo was a better scorer than Lebron up until about 2018.

Even when I was at my most casual and just only got into basketball I looked at stats. It amazes me that 90% + of fans don't, especially considering basketball is of the most information heavy and stat friendly sports on the planet.

Baseball lol


I think people thinking he’d decline were fair

I said one of the most!

And everyone declines, that is fair. Thinking he'd fall off a cliff from 29-31 and age worse than Carmelo was ridiculous however.

[Heej]

I think most of the talks of Lebron's decline came from him being injured in 2015 and no one caring enough to bring up the fact he was injured because it's Lebron lol. He's 30 + his stats declining + general Lebron has no bag nonsense = he'll age horribly.

I remember this like yesterday....I also remember in the 2014 season when some people thought his days of scoring 40 points in a game were almost over...4 years later he had 8 40 game points in a playoff run, the most since Jerry West in the 1960s!

Most sports fans just aren't interested in sports at all man. The Miami Heat were consistently one of the slowest paced teams in the league, AND Lebron had Wade and Bosh to share the ball with. Despite that, Lebron was so disgustingly efficient that in 2014 he was averaging 27 points a game on 17 and a half shots. That season Lebron was 10th in Field Goal Attempts and 3RD in Points Scored. That was literally Lebron at his offensive peak.

But yeah nah he's not a streaky gunner like Kobe so he's obviously declining Hell people were saying Canelo was a better scorer than Lebron up until about 2018.

Even when I was at my most casual and just only got into basketball I looked at stats. It amazes me that 90% + of fans don't, especially considering basketball is of the most information heavy and stat friendly sports on the planet.

I saw someone on Twitter say most NBA fans just watch it so they can have something to gossip about. Few truly understand what's happening schematically or the intricacies of the moves that players do

[homecourtloss]

Didn't see the full game but it seems like Bron started slow again.

4th quarter stats are mind blowing. 5-6 FG and a bunch of rebounds and assists.

4th quarter stats per 36 minutes:

34 ppg., 9 rebs., 7 assists on 69/44/71 shooting splits

+29 per 100 on court, +113 on-off per 100

[Heej]

Didn't see the full game but it seems like Bron started slow again.

4th quarter stats are mind blowing. 5-6 FG and a bunch of rebounds and assists.

4th quarter stats per 36 minutes:

34 ppg., 9 rebs., 7 assists on 69/44/71 shooting splits

+29 per 100 on court, +113 on-off per 100

Traumatized cuz all I think looking at that is "is that good enough to beat Joker"?

Truly hoping all the little lucky factors in the Nuggets favor last series was actually the difference and not the fact that they're simply head and shoulders the better team with the better players.

[Mos_Heat]

Glad that his shot is coming back, sans FTs

Even if Reaves and Rui bounce back I still feel this roster is limited in several key spots(POA defense, wings, shooting, shot creation). Not sure they can solve offensive problems via trade, so I would choose zimpy's route and go heavy on defense. Get Caruso and DFS or at least those type of players prototypically

[MyUniBroDavis]

Didn't see the full game but it seems like Bron started slow again.

4th quarter stats are mind blowing. 5-6 FG and a bunch of rebounds and assists.

4th quarter stats per 36 minutes:

34 ppg., 9 rebs., 7 assists on 69/44/71 shooting splits

+29 per 100 on court, +113 on-off per 100

Traumatized cuz all I think looking at that is "is that good enough to beat Joker"?

Truly hoping all the little lucky factors in the Nuggets favor last series was actually the difference and not the fact that they're simply head and shoulders the better team with the better players.

We were also injured as hell lol

[Heej]

4th quarter stats per 36 minutes:

34 ppg., 9 rebs., 7 assists on 69/44/71 shooting splits

+29 per 100 on court, +113 on-off per 100

Traumatized cuz all I think looking at that is "is that good enough to beat Joker"?

Truly hoping all the little lucky factors in the Nuggets favor last series was actually the difference and not the fact that they're simply head and shoulders the better team with the better players.

We were also injured as hell lol

Were we though? Only LeBron was seriously injured as far as I remember. Don't think that turns a sweep into a W. Just means the Lakers get blown out in Game 6 lol