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Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6

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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1281 » by Vampirate » Fri Nov 3, 2023 4:51 am

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What's interesting is he hasn't yet had a 25+ point game yet but has been so consistent. Still a small sample size but to do this in 4 games in 6 nights is impressive nonetheless.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1282 » by HKBOY » Fri Nov 3, 2023 5:20 am

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DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
Suggs, THT, Tre Jones, Mathurin, AJ Griffin, Ivey.

These are the list of guys that intrigue me as Scottie's sidekick.



gimme the guys that can shoot 3s no more brick layers they can keep em


Most of those guys are capable 3pt shooters that continue to improve in that department.
They all possess skills that I believe will complement Scottie's game very well. For example - Tre has tremendous upside as a playmaker and can help create for Scottie.
THT is a shifty player that loves to slash to the rim and is a strong finisher - Scottie loves making those passes down low.
Suggs has chemistry with Scottie and mentioned him as his favorite teammate. He's also a great playmaker and continues to make strides as a 3pt shooter. He's got the most potential out of all the guys I listed IMO.


Suggs could be a realistic target, great defender and his 3 point shot is improving. Orlando has too many guards, even Black isn't getting minutes there.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1283 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Nov 3, 2023 5:24 am

HKBOY wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:

gimme the guys that can shoot 3s no more brick layers they can keep em


Most of those guys are capable 3pt shooters that continue to improve in that department.
They all possess skills that I believe will complement Scottie's game very well. For example - Tre has tremendous upside as a playmaker and can help create for Scottie.
THT is a shifty player that loves to slash to the rim and is a strong finisher - Scottie loves making those passes down low.
Suggs has chemistry with Scottie and mentioned him as his favorite teammate. He's also a great playmaker and continues to make strides as a 3pt shooter. He's got the most potential out of all the guys I listed IMO.


Suggs could be a realistic target, great defender and his 3 point shot is improving. Orlando has too many guards, even Black isn't getting minutes there.


If he can be had for cheap, sure. But I doubt Orlando would give him up for a pair of SRPs or whatever we could offer. There is no way I'd offer a FRP for him (which is what Orlando would want).
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1284 » by Scase » Fri Nov 3, 2023 5:25 am

HKBOY wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:

gimme the guys that can shoot 3s no more brick layers they can keep em


Most of those guys are capable 3pt shooters that continue to improve in that department.
They all possess skills that I believe will complement Scottie's game very well. For example - Tre has tremendous upside as a playmaker and can help create for Scottie.
THT is a shifty player that loves to slash to the rim and is a strong finisher - Scottie loves making those passes down low.
Suggs has chemistry with Scottie and mentioned him as his favorite teammate. He's also a great playmaker and continues to make strides as a 3pt shooter. He's got the most potential out of all the guys I listed IMO.


Suggs could be a realistic target, great defender and his 3 point shot is improving. Orlando has too many guards, even Black isn't getting minutes there.

I was calling for this in the offseason, trade for suggs, you can probably get him at a discount. Orlando is likely ready to start making a push to win more. Originally I was hoping we'd send FVV there as they need a vet presence just like the Rockets did.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1285 » by HKBOY » Fri Nov 3, 2023 5:37 am

Scase wrote:
HKBOY wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
Most of those guys are capable 3pt shooters that continue to improve in that department.
They all possess skills that I believe will complement Scottie's game very well. For example - Tre has tremendous upside as a playmaker and can help create for Scottie.
THT is a shifty player that loves to slash to the rim and is a strong finisher - Scottie loves making those passes down low.
Suggs has chemistry with Scottie and mentioned him as his favorite teammate. He's also a great playmaker and continues to make strides as a 3pt shooter. He's got the most potential out of all the guys I listed IMO.


Suggs could be a realistic target, great defender and his 3 point shot is improving. Orlando has too many guards, even Black isn't getting minutes there.

I was calling for this in the offseason, trade for suggs, you can probably get him at a discount. Orlando is likely ready to start making a push to win more. Originally I was hoping we'd send FVV there as they need a vet presence just like the Rockets did.


I don't mind sending Precious + Flynn/a 2nd rounder for Suggs. They can't have Black wasting his rookie season on the bench.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1286 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Nov 3, 2023 6:00 am

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HKBOY wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
Most of those guys are capable 3pt shooters that continue to improve in that department.
They all possess skills that I believe will complement Scottie's game very well. For example - Tre has tremendous upside as a playmaker and can help create for Scottie.
THT is a shifty player that loves to slash to the rim and is a strong finisher - Scottie loves making those passes down low.
Suggs has chemistry with Scottie and mentioned him as his favorite teammate. He's also a great playmaker and continues to make strides as a 3pt shooter. He's got the most potential out of all the guys I listed IMO.


Suggs could be a realistic target, great defender and his 3 point shot is improving. Orlando has too many guards, even Black isn't getting minutes there.


If he can be had for cheap, sure. But I doubt Orlando would give him up for a pair of SRPs or whatever we could offer. There is no way I'd offer a FRP for him (which is what Orlando would want).


I would've given up that first rounder we gave up for Poeltl.
Suggs is 22 with a ton of upside. Definitely worth a first rounder.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1287 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Nov 3, 2023 6:03 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
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HKBOY wrote:
Suggs could be a realistic target, great defender and his 3 point shot is improving. Orlando has too many guards, even Black isn't getting minutes there.


If he can be had for cheap, sure. But I doubt Orlando would give him up for a pair of SRPs or whatever we could offer. There is no way I'd offer a FRP for him (which is what Orlando would want).


I would've given up that first rounder we gave up for Poeltl.
Suggs is 22 with a ton of upside. Definitely worth a first rounder.


I wouldn't say definitely worth it. He's sucked, badly, in his career so far. But yeah, if we didn't trade the pick for Yak, I'd entertain it.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1288 » by HumbleRen » Fri Nov 3, 2023 6:18 am

We need a 3 level scorer beside Scottie.

Not Suggs even though I’m pretty high on him. He’s going to be a monsterous defender at his peak.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1289 » by Boardbreaker » Fri Nov 3, 2023 8:00 am

Vampirate wrote:
DG88 wrote:
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What's interesting is he hasn't yet had a 25+ point game yet but has been so consistent. Still a small sample size but to do this in 4 games in 6 nights is impressive nonetheless.

It almost feels like he's been doing this pretty effortlessly too. If he got even more aggressive I think we see a stretch of him putting up around 30 plus a night.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1290 » by Raptorland23 » Fri Nov 3, 2023 11:41 am

The trick or important part now is that his work and stats translate to wins. We don't want him to become Scottie Westbrook.
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Post#1291 » by deck » Fri Nov 3, 2023 11:47 am

Raptorland23 wrote:The trick or important part now is that his work and stats translate to wins. We don't want him to become Scottie Westbrook.


I don't think there is any question that Scottie is contributing to winning based on what we have seen this season and in fact over his career. He's not putting up empty numbers.

He needs better talent around him and he needs the players we do have to be more consistent.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1292 » by 2019nbachamps » Fri Nov 3, 2023 11:56 am

This is Barnes team. We have a clear #1 since Kawhi. Time to do whatever it takes to build the team around him. Pascal has to go for shooters and draft picks.
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Post#1293 » by anotherhomer » Fri Nov 3, 2023 11:57 am

HumbleRen wrote:We need a 3 level scorer beside Scottie.

Not Suggs even though I’m pretty high on him. He’s going to be a monsterous defender at his peak.


gradey dick will be part of that equation, but i think we definitely need another guard to pair with Scottie long-term

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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1294 » by God Squad » Fri Nov 3, 2023 12:42 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
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HKBOY wrote:Who is a realistic young lead guard that could be a target for us? We really need a guard with high upside to grow with Scottie.

Jaden Ivey? Adrian Griffin? Cason Wallace? Anthony Black?


Jaden Iveys a good one. Another name could be Immanuel quickley.


Suggs, THT, Tre Jones, Mathurin, AJ Griffin, Ivey.

These are the list of guys that intrigue me as Scottie's sidekick.

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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1295 » by God Squad » Fri Nov 3, 2023 12:47 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
Suggs, THT, Tre Jones, Mathurin, AJ Griffin, Ivey.

These are the list of guys that intrigue me as Scottie's sidekick.



gimme the guys that can shoot 3s no more brick layers they can keep em


Most of those guys are capable 3pt shooters that continue to improve in that department.
They all possess skills that I believe will complement Scottie's game very well. For example - Tre has tremendous upside as a playmaker and can help create for Scottie.
THT is a shifty player that loves to slash to the rim and is a strong finisher - Scottie loves making those passes down low.
Suggs has chemistry with Scottie and mentioned him as his favorite teammate. He's also a great playmaker and continues to make strides as a 3pt shooter. He's got the most potential out of all the guys I listed IMO.

I'm still a Suggs fan regardless of the slow start to his career. His defense is elite, just need more progression with his jumper.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1296 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Fri Nov 3, 2023 12:58 pm

No Suggs.. guy will never be a good shooter. We don't need anymore of these type of 1 way players. Haven't we learned?!

Even the shooters on our team turn into bad shooters like Gary Trent.. Dude goes on huge slumps and bricks it up and a lot of them are wide open as well.. What do we gotta do for some good shooters? Maybe advertise "We got wide open shots. Come join our team" Dick really only hit 3s in one game and the rest of the games it's brick central on Wide open looks....
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1297 » by HumbleRen » Fri Nov 3, 2023 1:17 pm

Need Scottie to work with Paolo in the summer in how to grift for fouls.

That might be the one thing that stops Scottie from being an all star player this year. 3-4 FT's a game is not enough from your #1 option if Siakam continues to play like this.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1298 » by traps#10 » Fri Nov 3, 2023 1:45 pm

It took FVV and Nurse to depart for Scottie to be fully unleashed. Coincidence?
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1299 » by tsherkin » Fri Nov 3, 2023 1:45 pm

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tsherkin wrote:Another very strong game, 3pt shooting and mystifying hesitation in the 4th notwithstanding. 7/9 inside the arc, great rebounding on the defensive end, excellent passing, just an all-around strong performance.

I dont know what to say anymore, 6 games in he putting up 21/10/6/0.8/2 on 61% TS%. I keep expecting things to come back down, but even with shooting 28% from 3 tonight, he's avberaging 40% on the season.

Can this be real lol?


Like, objectively we know that some of this is going to settle. But the more we go on, the more it looks like he's going to keep generating shots inside 10 feet and he's shooting a reasonable percentage there, so a lot of that raw FG% may not settle too much more. He absolutely needs to learn how to draw fouls, but even if he starts shooting 35% on those long 2s, that'd only drop his TS% by 2% at this point. It's only 2 or 3 2FG made so far due to the volume. That plus him dropping down to 35% from 3 (oh noez!) would see him down to around 58.5%... which would still be very nice for this season. Over the first 6 games, league average is 56.4%, by about 1.7% from last season, so 58.6% TS would actually be pretty good, especially at volume.

And that doesn't even touch on how he's doing very well with the whole "hitting the defensive boards to key the break" deal.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1300 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Fri Nov 3, 2023 1:52 pm

The crazy part for me, is that if he keeps working on his shot he could be a 36% shooter this year.

If he's an inside out player like that...that's top five(in time).
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