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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#201 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Nov 3, 2023 10:13 pm

Melo and Anthony Edwards are the guys to keep an eye on I think. Both are reaching that territory where we are all going to see how good they will eventually be. Years 3/4/5 is when the great ones really start to turn the corner in this league. After that, winning starts to become a priority for these guys and if it's not happening by the time they hit those years they usually end up being traded for another rebuild. You can add Morant's name to that list too, but I personally hope that we have no interest in that clownshoe. Jaren Jackson is a player I would love to see paired with Embiid.

Aside from the names mentioned, I do see some buy low names out there right now that could help us out.

Jalen Suggs- However, if Orlando is good enough to be in the playoff conversation this year, I don't see them moving him.

Coby White- Underutilized in Chicago and they may possible suck again this year. Who knows? Maybe they sell him this year?

Killian Hayes- again, I think this depends on how Detroit does in the early going. I don't think Hayes is a good fit with Cunningham on that team.

Tre Mann- If there was ever a way to pry him from the clutches of OKC.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#202 » by the_process » Fri Nov 3, 2023 10:14 pm

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Melo doesn’t play a drop of defense. But he had already signed his 5 yr max extension with Charlotte.


LaMelo does defend, does shoot, does playmake. He has signed his extension, which just means it's too hard to make the money work during the season. Off season, however, he goes right into cap space.

Other stars will come available. But do they want to come here? Can the Sixers outbid the competition? And do we really want another soon to be washed guy who used to be good? Let's gamble the other way, on a kid who has all the potential and shown some of it but hasn't fully realized it yet.


Yea if we can get Melo, we might as well go for Anthony Edwards.


While I get your point... there's a far greater chance Charlotte would be willing to deal.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#203 » by the_process » Fri Nov 3, 2023 10:24 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Melo and Anthony Edwards are the guys to keep an eye on I think. Both are reaching that territory where we are all going to see how good they will eventually be. Years 3/4/5 is when the great ones really start to turn the corner in this league. After that, winning starts to become a priority for these guys and if it's not happening by the time they hit those years they usually end up being traded for another rebuild. You can add Morant's name to that list too, but I personally hope that we have no interest in that clownshoe. Jaren Jackson is a player I would love to see paired with Embiid.

Aside from the names mentioned, I do see some buy low names out there right now that could help us out.

Jalen Suggs- However, if Orlando is good enough to be in the playoff conversation this year, I don't see them moving him.

Coby White- Underutilized in Chicago and they may possible suck again this year. Who knows? Maybe they sell him this year?

Killian Hayes- again, I think this depends on how Detroit does in the early going. I don't think Hayes is a good fit with Cunningham on that team.

Tre Mann- If there was ever a way to pry him from the clutches of OKC.


Wonder if DET would take Morris, Korkmaz, and 2-3 2nds for Wiseman and Hayes? Have to wait until New Year's but that deal could potentially help.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#204 » by Negrodamus » Fri Nov 3, 2023 10:32 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Melo and Anthony Edwards are the guys to keep an eye on I think. Both are reaching that territory where we are all going to see how good they will eventually be. Years 3/4/5 is when the great ones really start to turn the corner in this league. After that, winning starts to become a priority for these guys and if it's not happening by the time they hit those years they usually end up being traded for another rebuild. You can add Morant's name to that list too, but I personally hope that we have no interest in that clownshoe. Jaren Jackson is a player I would love to see paired with Embiid.

Aside from the names mentioned, I do see some buy low names out there right now that could help us out.

Jalen Suggs- However, if Orlando is good enough to be in the playoff conversation this year, I don't see them moving him.

Coby White- Underutilized in Chicago and they may possible suck again this year. Who knows? Maybe they sell him this year?

Killian Hayes- again, I think this depends on how Detroit does in the early going. I don't think Hayes is a good fit with Cunningham on that team.

Tre Mann- If there was ever a way to pry him from the clutches of OKC.


Killian Hayes was definitely an interesting buy low candidate to me. Big guard with passing chops are interesting to me, but dude cannot finish at the rim and has been dreadful from three, an area thought to be a strong point from him early on.

I think he might unfortunately be too far gone. Will probably lose his minutes to Sasser and Ivey soon.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#205 » by Monix » Fri Nov 3, 2023 10:51 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Aside from the names mentioned, I do see some buy low names out there right now that could help us out.

Jalen Suggs- However, if Orlando is good enough to be in the playoff conversation this year, I don't see them moving him.

Coby White- Underutilized in Chicago and they may possible suck again this year. Who knows? Maybe they sell him this year?

Killian Hayes- again, I think this depends on how Detroit does in the early going. I don't think Hayes is a good fit with Cunningham on that team.

Tre Mann- If there was ever a way to pry him from the clutches of OKC.

White has at least shown that he can score a little but he's been moving backwards, his extension isn't terrible for a bench guard

Suggs and Hayes stink - just play Springer if you're looking for a defender with shaky scoring

Tre Mann = a "scorer" that doesn't score
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#206 » by FlyingArrow » Fri Nov 3, 2023 10:52 pm

What's the conventional wisdom on Luka? Will he want to leave Dallas, and if so can we get him?
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#207 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Nov 3, 2023 11:01 pm

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Aside from the names mentioned, I do see some buy low names out there right now that could help us out.

Jalen Suggs- However, if Orlando is good enough to be in the playoff conversation this year, I don't see them moving him.

Coby White- Underutilized in Chicago and they may possible suck again this year. Who knows? Maybe they sell him this year?

Killian Hayes- again, I think this depends on how Detroit does in the early going. I don't think Hayes is a good fit with Cunningham on that team.

Tre Mann- If there was ever a way to pry him from the clutches of OKC.

White has at least shown that he can score a little but he's been moving backwards, his extension isn't terrible for a bench guard

Suggs and Hayes stink - just play Springer if you're looking for a defender with shaky scoring

Tre Mann = a "scorer" that doesn't score


You make a good point about Suggs and Hayes. I also want to see Springer play, but he's got shaky handles for a guard. I think right now we need another guard that can at least create for others. I think that's why Beverly is getting so many minutes for the time being. He's probably the closest thing to a traditional point guard that we have on this team. I think not having a second primary setup type of guard on this team is going to be our doom of the postseason (barring an Embiid injury).
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#208 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Nov 3, 2023 11:01 pm

FlyingArrow wrote:What's the conventional wisdom on Luka? Will he want to leave Dallas, and if so can we get him?


I don't think he ever leaves Dallas at all. I'm going to call it and say that he plays his entire career there.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#209 » by Kobblehead » Fri Nov 3, 2023 11:46 pm

OG and Jerami Grant are the only guys that make sense to me.

Maxey is your G, so wipe all the other G targets off the board.
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Post#210 » by M2J » Sat Nov 4, 2023 1:09 am

Kobblehead wrote:OG and Jerami Grant are the only guys that make sense to me.

Maxey is your G, so wipe all the other G targets off the board.


You also have to factor in that Oubre won't be around ongoing. Offense is needed. I like Grant better than OG.

Bridges is definitely not an untouchable player. He is actually the perfect fit if at all possible. May require that draft day trade though, so that 2024 pick factors in as they have theirs to Houston.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#211 » by Skates » Sat Nov 4, 2023 1:26 am

Kobblehead wrote:OG and Jerami Grant are the only guys that make sense to me.

Maxey is your G, so wipe all the other G targets off the board.


Can probably get Brogdon and Grant as a pair from Portland.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#212 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Nov 4, 2023 1:35 am

Skates wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:OG and Jerami Grant are the only guys that make sense to me.

Maxey is your G, so wipe all the other G targets off the board.


Can probably get Brogdon and Grant as a pair from Portland.


This would be quite an underwhelming use of our cap space.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#213 » by SixthStreet » Sat Nov 4, 2023 2:02 am

What's our trade every asset package for Doncic?

Is it Maxey, 4 picks and 4 swaps?
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#214 » by Skates » Sat Nov 4, 2023 2:05 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:
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Kobblehead wrote:OG and Jerami Grant are the only guys that make sense to me.

Maxey is your G, so wipe all the other G targets off the board.


Can probably get Brogdon and Grant as a pair from Portland.


This would be quite an underwhelming use of our cap space.



A lot of the suggested options are underwhelming is you are hunting a third superstar. Grant fills a big need as a wing defender and rim protector who can score if he accepts being a second tier option behind Maxey and Embiid. Brogdon is a big combo guard with excellent skills to match with Maxey.

They will cost less drag capital than some worse options, and they use up your cap space if you keep Tobi, but then maybe you sign him to a deal, get assets back in a sign and trade or move him this season and Brogdon and Grant only take up a bit more cap space than Harris accounted for with his contract. Doesn’t leave you max cap space, but enough to trade for or outright sign another quality depth piece this summer

Are Brogdon and Grant my first choice? No, but they are cost controlled vets with known skill sets and possibly a real nice fit on a deep team that leave you a few assets in your holster to add more.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#215 » by FlyingArrow » Sat Nov 4, 2023 2:25 am

SixthStreet wrote:What's our trade every asset package for Doncic?

Is it Maxey, 4 picks and 4 swaps?

Probably Springer, too.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#216 » by 76ciology » Sat Nov 4, 2023 3:05 am

Kobblehead wrote:OG and Jerami Grant are the only guys that make sense to me.

Maxey is your G, so wipe all the other G targets off the board.


Yeah!

Those wings are gonna ease up Biid’s load on defense.

OG, Jerami, Tobi and Oubre at the wings? Damn
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#217 » by 76ciology » Sat Nov 4, 2023 3:07 am

FlyingArrow wrote:
SixthStreet wrote:What's our trade every asset package for Doncic?

Is it Maxey, 4 picks and 4 swaps?

Probably Springer, too.


Probably have to also add Will Smith and Meek Mill.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#218 » by 76ciology » Sat Nov 4, 2023 3:10 am

Im watching this Grizz-Blazers team.

Blazers actually look good without scoot.

Brogdon
Sharpe
Camara
Jerami Grant
Ayton

But this is against league worst Grizz and with the refs wanting close games in this in game season tournament BS
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#219 » by eyeatoma » Sat Nov 4, 2023 3:17 am

Kobblehead wrote:OG and Jerami Grant are the only guys that make sense to me.

Maxey is your G, so wipe all the other G targets off the board.


I like that idea, I still worry about scoring a little, but I think if Maxey and Embiid fire we'd be fine.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#220 » by eyeatoma » Sat Nov 4, 2023 3:18 am

Can we please stop talking about Brogdon. His knees are made of tissue paper, he is unbelievably injury prone.

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