Wendell Carter Out Indefinitely with a Broken Hand (11/28 update: cast is off, 1-2 weeks from return)

[WillyJakkz]

BTW how did he injure it? A jazz player hacked his hand?

He fell on his hand getting a rebound at the end of the game.

Lmao, as expected 3 rotation players go down with injury in the first few weeks of the season for the Magic in a comical fashion

Was it? Cause when I watched the game I saw Hacksaw Kelly Olynyk and his knee or leg lift up and thought that's how it occurred.

But again I'm not giving Olynyk the benefit of the doubt due to his track record.

Either way it sucks to happen with 1sec left in the game.

[Skin]

Blessing in disguise. I want more minutes for Isaac and some looks with Paolo at C.

[RookieStar]

Wish him a speedy recovery. Him avoiding the injury bug seems to be inevitable. Next man up. Actually hope we start Goga so that we do not compromise the bench unit but the synergy between the Wagner brothers is really good so I could see Coach opting for that route to start the game.

THIS.

I prefer not to mess with Moe's ability to score bunches against backups. He might have a harder time against the other team's best players guarding him. OR him guarding them. We need his scoring with 3 guys out. LOL

[RookieStar]

BTW how did he injure it? A jazz player hacked his hand?

He fell on his hand getting a rebound at the end of the game.

Lmao, as expected 3 rotation players go down with injury in the first few weeks of the season for the Magic in a comical fashion

Was it? Cause when I watched the game I saw Hacksaw Kelly Olynyk and his knee or leg lift up and thought that's how it occurred.

But again I'm not giving Olynyk the benefit of the doubt due to his track record.

Either way it sucks to happen with 1sec left in the game.

Same. It was too crowded there. I hope someone has a slow replay we can see.

[RookieStar]

Congrats on predicting a broken metatarsal We don't have good starters at other spots, backup C was not the priority. IF it was easy then, we could still do it now.

The specific injury of course couldn't be predicted, but it was always likely he will miss significant time this year, he's never played more than 62 games in any of his previous 5 NBA seasons.

We have decent backups at this position, Goga is a very solid third centre and Mo is very good on oiffense, but Wendell will surely be missed.

They are decent -backups. But i have my reservations about them being tasked to play against starters and play exstended min.

But we'll see.

All we need is 20mins from Goga to body up the starting C of the opposing teams. Make them work for their points.

Let Paolo JI Moe handle the rest of the mins against mostly backups.

[RookieStar]

ALSO...

I told you guys we shouldve signed Vuc as the backup/starting C!!!! LOL

[YosemiteSam]

I am not usually a "told you so" guy, but if you look through the off season trade ideas threads, several times I proposed ideas to get a backup Center that we could plug in as a starter for the inevitable WCJ long term injury. It was gross negligence from the front office that they have us in this position by game 5 of the season where our options for 2 months are to start either Goga (released last year by Indiana) or Moe (1 dimensional journeyman). This isn't bad luck, this was something that was easy to predict, and most of us did.

Congrats on predicting a broken metatarsal We don't have good starters at other spots, backup C was not the priority. IF it was easy then, we could still do it now.

Of course this seems like an unlucky break (no pun intended), except with him something goes wrong every year (which I think is because of his weight, including this injury), but I would feel better with our bench guards stepping up to start than I do with our bench bigs. At this moment I'd rather have Zubac on our team than Herro or Simons

[Skybox]

Olynyk is actually a guy I wouldn't mind signing...Fultz for Olynyk straight up (both are expiring, but he'd give us a different look)

or, better yet Olynyk and Agbaji for Fultz and DEN 25 frp

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[Skybox]

Good thing I've kept my stock in Moe Island.

This really is a big opportunity for him to show he can play minutes, especially defensively. He and Franz have very real offensive chemistry and he's a big enough guy, if an unconventional Center. I do see the pairing with Isaac making some 2-way sense, if Franz can slide down to 2 or even PG for minutes here and there.

Moe
Paolo
Isaac or get Robert Williams from POR
Suggs
Franz

not full-time, but interesting, maybe even put Black in the Suggs spot for bigger defensive look - more help inside.

I'm really sorry about WCJ and Fultz, but this may be time to look at unconventional lineups (and trades)

[RookieStar]

Good thing I've kept my stock in Moe Island.

This really is a big opportunity for him to show he can play minutes, especially defensively. He and Franz have very real offensive chemistry and he's a big enough guy, if an unconventional Center. I do see the pairing with Isaac making some 2-way sense, if Franz can slide down to 2 or even PG for minutes here and there.

Moe
Paolo
Isaac or get Robert Williams from POR
Suggs
Franz

not full-time, but interesting, maybe even put Black in the Suggs spot for bigger defensive look - more help inside.

I'm really sorry about WCJ and Fultz, but this may be time to look at unconventional lineups (and trades)

Moe and defense in the same sentence? Well if you mean take a charge then sure

[RookieStar]

I am not usually a "told you so" guy, but if you look through the off season trade ideas threads, several times I proposed ideas to get a backup Center that we could plug in as a starter for the inevitable WCJ long term injury. It was gross negligence from the front office that they have us in this position by game 5 of the season where our options for 2 months are to start either Goga (released last year by Indiana) or Moe (1 dimensional journeyman). This isn't bad luck, this was something that was easy to predict, and most of us did.

Congrats on predicting a broken metatarsal We don't have good starters at other spots, backup C was not the priority. IF it was easy then, we could still do it now.

Of course this seems like an unlucky break (no pun intended), except with him something goes wrong every year (which I think is because of his weight, including this injury), but I would feel better with our bench guards stepping up to start than I do with our bench bigs. At this moment I'd rather have Zubac on our team than Herro or Simons

TBF, a lot of his missed games before were due to his eyes getting hit ( hence his goggles ) That's not really on his weight.

[Skybox]

Good thing I've kept my stock in Moe Island.

This really is a big opportunity for him to show he can play minutes, especially defensively. He and Franz have very real offensive chemistry and he's a big enough guy, if an unconventional Center. I do see the pairing with Isaac making some 2-way sense, if Franz can slide down to 2 or even PG for minutes here and there.

Moe
Paolo
Isaac or get Robert Williams from POR
Suggs
Franz

not full-time, but interesting, maybe even put Black in the Suggs spot for bigger defensive look - more help inside.

I'm really sorry about WCJ and Fultz, but this may be time to look at unconventional lineups (and trades)

Moe and defense in the same sentence? Well if you mean take a charge then sure

Moe flexing and jawing with Isaac standing behind him

[anothermagicfan]

Sucks for WCJ hopefully he's healed up quickly and back in the lineup soon.

The injury bug is bigger than just him though. It'll be interesting to see how long fultz and Harris are out as well.

As for the center spot I think it'll be center by committee. I'm guessing depending on the matchup we will see some experimenting, which could be fun to watch or infuriating lol. I could see nights when it's goga and moe picking up the minutes. I could also see nights when Paulo slides over to the center spot. I think Paulo at the 5 with fultz/suggs/franz/okeke could be an interesting group on the defensive end but would probably struggle offensively if they don't force turnovers and get transition buckets. The 1 thing I doubt we see is more minutes by JI. It's not worth losing the 15-18 minutes he gives us. I wish he could play more but I doubt it right now.

As for fultz I'd like to see black thrown into starting if he's out. His playing style and defense is closer to fultz play and might as well see what he can do. Coles play off the bench has been really good and I think he has a bigger impact in his role than filling in as a starter.

Harris injury might be a great time as well to insert Howard in alongside Cole. Let's see what he can do too.

This could turn into an exciting few weeks of basketball. Or put us in a much better position to draft in the lottery and find a future big.

[eyriq]

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[eyriq]

I'm going to stay on theme and highlight that the win engine runs on Paolo Wagner epicness. WCJ is a stud and losing him hurts, but Fultz and Harris are very replaceable. Black's time to shine.

[RookieStar]

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There goes my hope of a payback against the Lakers. We couldve won that 1st game so i was pretty confident in this. With our injuries.... not so much anymore.

[eyriq]

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There goes my hope of a payback against the Lakers. We couldve won that 1st game so i was pretty confident in this. With our injuries.... not so much anymore.

I wonder what the injuries do to our performance. How important is WCJ? Fultz? Harris? Moritz has been better than WCJ, Cole has been better than Fultz, Harris has been good but not essential, Black looked great. Goga is good.

I'm not worried, I actually don't mind injuries making us do the right thing, if that's what it takes.

[SOUL]

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There goes my hope of a payback against the Lakers. We couldve won that 1st game so i was pretty confident in this. With our injuries.... not so much anymore.

I wonder what the injuries do to our performance. How important is WCJ? Fultz? Harris? Moritz has been better than WCJ, Cole has been better than Fultz, Harris has been good but not essential, Black looked great. Goga is good.

I'm not worried, I actually don't mind injuries making us do the right thing, if that's what it takes.

You can't look at it as 1v1 comparisons though, that's not exactly how it works since these guys excelled off of the bench because of certain factors. Also means that other people stepping into roles like rookies or 3rd stringers have to step up too WHILE whoever is replaced in the starting lineup also has to do better in a new role.

They aren't going to easily replace WCJ's defense or Gary's shooting or even a steadying PG on the roster with Fultz out, but they can manage because the depth is decent on the team, but we may have to start depending on 3rd stringers and rookies with even 1 more injury which is never something that coaches want to do early. Using Black in increasing minutes is perfect for his usage, while Jett and company hopefully start getting spot minutes too.

[eyriq]

There goes my hope of a payback against the Lakers. We couldve won that 1st game so i was pretty confident in this. With our injuries.... not so much anymore.

I wonder what the injuries do to our performance. How important is WCJ? Fultz? Harris? Moritz has been better than WCJ, Cole has been better than Fultz, Harris has been good but not essential, Black looked great. Goga is good.

I'm not worried, I actually don't mind injuries making us do the right thing, if that's what it takes.

You can't look at it as 1v1 comparisons though, that's not exactly how it works since these guys excelled off of the bench because of certain factors. Also means that other people stepping into roles like rookies or 3rd stringers have to step up too WHILE whoever is replaced in the starting lineup also has to do better in a new role.

They aren't going to easily replace WCJ's defense or Gary's shooting or even a steadying PG on the roster with Fultz out, but they can manage because the depth is decent on the team, but we may have to start depending on 3rd stringers and rookies with even 1 more injury which is never something that coaches want to do early. Using Black in increasing minutes is perfect for his usage, while Jett and company hopefully start getting spot minutes too.

Yeah, this is true. Going to be a delicate transition, not ideal.

[RookieStar]

There goes my hope of a payback against the Lakers. We couldve won that 1st game so i was pretty confident in this. With our injuries.... not so much anymore.

I wonder what the injuries do to our performance. How important is WCJ? Fultz? Harris? Moritz has been better than WCJ, Cole has been better than Fultz, Harris has been good but not essential, Black looked great. Goga is good.

I'm not worried, I actually don't mind injuries making us do the right thing, if that's what it takes.

You can't look at it as 1v1 comparisons though, that's not exactly how it works since these guys excelled off of the bench because of certain factors. Also means that other people stepping into roles like rookies or 3rd stringers have to step up too WHILE whoever is replaced in the starting lineup also has to do better in a new role.

They aren't going to easily replace WCJ's defense or Gary's shooting or even a steadying PG on the roster with Fultz out, but they can manage because the depth is decent on the team, but we may have to start depending on 3rd stringers and rookies with even 1 more injury which is never something that coaches want to do early. Using Black in increasing minutes is perfect for his usage, while Jett and company hopefully start getting spot minutes too.

I wonder if Goga can replace wcj defense against AD. I meam, AD swiss-cheesed hisbdefense before. Wanna see how Goga does it.

Yeah we willmiss Garys 3pt shooting.