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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#281 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:58 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:What's your absolute max offer for Mikal Bridges IF your goal is to add him to the existing rotation? I think he will be made available at current level of play.

Fournier salary is enough. So here's the list of every pick we own and owe

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

My assumption is it would push Grimes to the bench since they don't see to want to bench RJ from the tipoff, but will bench him if he's playing bad to close games.

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I would love Mikal on the Knicks, although I doubt the Nets trade him to us for our offer; however, maybe a 3 team trade where Mikal comes to us, Spida goes to Nets & our package headed by RJ/Grimes/draft picks goes to Clev? I haven't played with salary matching yet, but I will.


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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#282 » by sol537 » Thu Nov 2, 2023 4:32 pm

Randle for Caruso, P Williams, Drummond

or

Randle for Isaac, Ingles, late 1st
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#283 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Thu Nov 2, 2023 5:00 pm

KNICKFAN374 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:What's your absolute max offer for Mikal Bridges IF your goal is to add him to the existing rotation? I think he will be made available at current level of play.

Fournier salary is enough. So here's the list of every pick we own and owe

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

My assumption is it would push Grimes to the bench since they don't see to want to bench RJ from the tipoff, but will bench him if he's playing bad to close games.

Brunson
Mikal
RJ
Randle
Mitch

IQ
DDV
Grimes
Hart
Hartenstein


I would love Mikal on the Knicks, although I doubt the Nets trade him to us for our offer; however, maybe a 3 team trade where Mikal comes to us, Spida goes to Nets & our package headed by RJ/Grimes/draft picks goes to Clev? I haven't played with salary matching yet, but I will.


The Nets would need to send out another $4m in salary, and it's not that easy to see how to do that before Dec 15 without putting one of their 2023 first round picks into the deal.

Edit: I guess the Nets could send Royce O'Neale to the Cavs if they like their rookies + DFS as a PF rotation. That was somewhat mooted at one point. Not sure that they would think Mitchell for Mikal+O'Neale was fair value. Maybe?
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#284 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Nov 2, 2023 5:09 pm

KNICKFAN374 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:What's your absolute max offer for Mikal Bridges IF your goal is to add him to the existing rotation? I think he will be made available at current level of play.

Fournier salary is enough. So here's the list of every pick we own and owe

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

My assumption is it would push Grimes to the bench since they don't see to want to bench RJ from the tipoff, but will bench him if he's playing bad to close games.

Brunson
Mikal
RJ
Randle
Mitch

IQ
DDV
Grimes
Hart
Hartenstein


I would love Mikal on the Knicks, although I doubt the Nets trade him to us for our offer; however, maybe a 3 team trade where Mikal comes to us, Spida goes to Nets & our package headed by RJ/Grimes/draft picks goes to Clev? I haven't played with salary matching yet, but I will.



They aren't trading for Mitchell to pair him up with Spencer Dinwiddie, there's no world in which Mikal isn't part of their long term plans.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#285 » by Jeffrey » Thu Nov 2, 2023 6:11 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
KNICKFAN374 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:What's your absolute max offer for Mikal Bridges IF your goal is to add him to the existing rotation? I think he will be made available at current level of play.

Fournier salary is enough. So here's the list of every pick we own and owe

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

My assumption is it would push Grimes to the bench since they don't see to want to bench RJ from the tipoff, but will bench him if he's playing bad to close games.

Brunson
Mikal
RJ
Randle
Mitch

IQ
DDV
Grimes
Hart
Hartenstein


I would love Mikal on the Knicks, although I doubt the Nets trade him to us for our offer; however, maybe a 3 team trade where Mikal comes to us, Spida goes to Nets & our package headed by RJ/Grimes/draft picks goes to Clev? I haven't played with salary matching yet, but I will.



They aren't trading for Mitchell to pair him up with Spencer Dinwiddie, there's no world in which Mikal isn't part of their long term plans.


Yep and his contract is pretty good right now.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#286 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Nov 3, 2023 11:03 pm

I guess we can strike Embiid from the list along with Giannis. Who does that leave? lol

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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#287 » by Jeffrey » Sat Nov 4, 2023 1:04 am

Giannis
Embiid
Lavine
Mitchell
KAT

Any other star players that might be available by this deadline? We need some serious offensive firepower. I'm going to cry because we finally got a decent squad of support players and now just need a star player. :cry: :cry:
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#288 » by Snacks » Sat Nov 4, 2023 12:47 pm

Jeffrey wrote:Giannis
Embiid
Lavine
Mitchell
KAT

Any other star players that might be available by this deadline? We need some serious offensive firepower. I'm going to cry because we finally got a decent squad of support players and now just need a star player. :cry: :cry:


why scratch off Lavine, Bulls may yet look to rebuild

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Siakam is due a huge extension, which may limit his choices
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#289 » by Wildcat » Sat Nov 4, 2023 4:15 pm

Jeffrey wrote:Giannis
Embiid
Lavine
Mitchell
KAT

Any other star players that might be available by this deadline? We need some serious offensive firepower. I'm going to cry because we finally got a decent squad of support players and now just need a star player. :cry: :cry:


Unfortunately, offensive power means little if you have a coach that doesn't really utilize his pieces correctly. W's should not be such a grind, but that's what his playbook calls for.

I love JB, but he can't always be put in a position to will this team to a W. I really wish the Knicks tinkered with C/PF by going after KP and Siakam. I think Siakam is a better fit for the team because of his adaptivity.

I haven't given up on Randle, though. I think he can bounce back. Hoping it's a combination of rust from offseason surgery and tough starting schedule that's the problem.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#290 » by Wildcat » Sat Nov 4, 2023 4:19 pm

Snacks wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:Giannis
Embiid
Lavine
Mitchell
KAT

Any other star players that might be available by this deadline? We need some serious offensive firepower. I'm going to cry because we finally got a decent squad of support players and now just need a star player. :cry: :cry:


why scratch off Lavine, Bulls may yet look to rebuild

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Siakam

Siakam is due a huge extension, which may limit his choices


76ers are very likely going to overpaid for him. I like Lavine, but not on this team.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#291 » by Snacks » Sat Nov 4, 2023 6:18 pm

Wildcat wrote:
Snacks wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:Giannis
Embiid
Lavine
Mitchell
KAT

Any other star players that might be available by this deadline? We need some serious offensive firepower. I'm going to cry because we finally got a decent squad of support players and now just need a star player. :cry: :cry:


why scratch off Lavine, Bulls may yet look to rebuild

Add
Siakam

Siakam is due a huge extension, which may limit his choices


76ers are very likely going to overpaid for him. I like Lavine, but not on this team.


beggars can't be choosers. Knicks would be lucky to get Lavine.
Anyway, Lavine fits nicely withe the players I would keep - which would be Mitch/Brunson/Grimes --- Check the sig
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#292 » by TKKnicks1 » Sat Nov 4, 2023 6:40 pm

I'd do Ben Simmons for Randle. I said this trade last year too and I'm sticking with it. Unfortunately Randles value is dirt level low right now so we can't expect much in return.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#293 » by Najeem27 » Sat Nov 4, 2023 8:03 pm

We're not winning anything with low IQ Randle on the team. Idc how many points he scores his lack of awareness and defensive help is non existent. He can drop 30pts but it's all bad quality shots and garbage percentages which is why he cant do s*** during playoffs.
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Post#294 » by KnixinSix » Sat Nov 4, 2023 8:16 pm

aliamri1017 wrote:We're not winning anything with low IQ Randle on the team. Idc how many points he scores his lack of awareness and defensive help is non existent. He can drop 30pts but it's all bad quality shots and garbage percentages which is why he cant do s*** during playoffs.


Randle and IHart and 2FRP for KAT and Naz Reid

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Naz Reid (30), KAT (10), Hart
RJ Barrett (30), Hart
Grimes, IQ, Hart, DD
Brunson, DD

IQ,Grimes,Fournier and 3FRPs for Donovan Mitchell

KAT(22),Mitchell Robinson (26)
Naz Reid (30), KAT (10), Hart
RJ Barrett (30), Hart
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#296 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Nov 5, 2023 7:34 am

Do you think that a different head coach would get more out of this particular roster than Thibs does? In other words, is this a roster constructed to fit Thibs's coaching philosophy? If so, then if we fire Thibs, do we have to reconstruct or retool - or whatever you want to call it - the roster? I ask these questions because the team does not look ready to compete with a sense of urgency. In fact, we look like shyt. I just watch a video showing Randle throwing up his arms in disgust and glared at Brunson after JB went ISO (he was on fire against the Bucks) on the left wing instead of getting the ball cross-court to the opposite wing off the 3-point line when Randle, who had a horrible game, thought he should have. Then Randle loafed back on defense ... and Thibs didn't take him out.

If this stuff continues and Randle decides to "upset the apple cart", it may be time for changes. Randle better get his head on straight. He had all summer to heal, train, learn, and meditate on "his mental". And this is how he starts the season?

Maybe there's some BS going on behind the scenes concerning Randle's agent now that he left CAA and we're just not hearing about it (because that wouldn't be good for either side)?
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#297 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Nov 5, 2023 7:36 am

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Yeah, that's bad.
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Post#298 » by 8516knicks » Sun Nov 5, 2023 3:02 pm

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Post#299 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Nov 5, 2023 3:08 pm

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Yeah, that's bad.

He needs to get back in game shape after being off his foot during the offseason. Normally we;d have a back up 4 taking on some of that (like Toppin in the playoffs) but of course we sabotaged ourselves this summer.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#300 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Nov 5, 2023 6:01 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
aliamri1017 wrote:


Yeah, that's bad.

He needs to get back in game shape after being off his foot during the offseason. Normally we;d have a back up 4 taking on some of that (like Toppin in the playoffs) but of course we sabotaged ourselves this summer.

I floated the possibility of the ankle too. I think a lot of us felt that way since we wanted to acquire a real backup at PF this past offseason.

I remember trying to play ball on a sprained ankle. It doesn’t take much to throw off your game both offensively and defensively.
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