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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1061 » by JMAC3 » Sat Nov 4, 2023 8:44 pm

JDR720 wrote:OKC trade.

Charlotte trades = Nick Richards, Thor, 2nd.

OKC trades = Jaylin Williams, Pokusevski.

Why for us? We get a 3&D PF/SF and take a swing on Poku (who for some reason is out of OKC's rotation this year).
Why for them? They get a C that isn't a human twig.


Can't see OKC really caring to do that deal.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1062 » by JMAC3 » Sat Nov 4, 2023 8:46 pm

SWedd523 wrote:Yeah I would absolutely be targeting Caruso when Chicago implodes


Rumor was Chicago wanted 2 firsts for him, which is wild and nobody was doing that.

He has this year and next at 9.6 million per. Assuming he costs a future first is that really worth to you?

To me I am on the fence.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1063 » by JMAC3 » Sat Nov 4, 2023 8:49 pm

yosemiteben wrote:If we're looking for random depth, I like the idea of swapping Bouk for Jalen McD.


McDaniels has been awful since leaving, I am not sure I would even do that deal given his salary is guaranteed next year.

Averaging 1ppg on 18% shooting right now for Raptors in 5 games. :falloff:
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1064 » by JMAC3 » Sat Nov 4, 2023 8:53 pm

SWedd523 wrote:I don't think Miles has any trade value. Aside from the PR aspect, he's a serious flight risk moving into FA since he'll be unrestricted (I think?)


He would have more value to a team that is projected to have no to little cap space.

Teams like Cleveland, Miami, Lakers, Bucks, Suns who other wise have no hope are the market.

Philly, Detroit, Indy, Spurs, Raptors are all teams that could make a realistic run at him FA and probably don't value him in a deal nearly as much.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1065 » by JMAC3 » Sat Nov 4, 2023 8:58 pm

Would Knicks consider an RJ Barrett and Gordon Hayward type of deal?

Barrett isn't super efficient but he has the tools to be a good defender and maybe playing with LaMelo would help unleash him.

Would be risky for sure.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1066 » by JMAC3 » Sat Nov 4, 2023 9:01 pm

Landry Shamet could be a decent Cody Martin replacement.
Washington might value taking a flyer on Bouknight along with some filler and a 2nd maybe.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1067 » by JMAC3 » Mon Nov 6, 2023 3:05 pm

.............. know I am about to get stoned for this, but trading for Brogdon would be a good move. Problem is we don't have any contracts to trade for him unless we give up one of our top guys. Would be nice to have another contract in the 10-15 range that we could deal... cough cough Oubre.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1068 » by JDR720 » Tue Nov 7, 2023 1:33 am

Small trade.

Charlotte trades: Bouknight or McGowans + 2nd round pick.

Nets trade: Dennis Smith Jr.

Why for us? Get Dennis back, he only plays 13mpg for the Nets.

Why for them? Get another prospect and a draft pick for someone they barely play.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1069 » by GoBobs » Tue Nov 7, 2023 2:58 am

JDR720 wrote:Small trade.

Charlotte trades: Bouknight or McGowans + 2nd round pick.

Nets trade: Dennis Smith Jr.

Why for us? Get Dennis back, he only plays 13mpg for the Nets.

Why for them? Get another prospect and a draft pick for someone they barely play.


Sounds good to me
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1070 » by GoBobs » Tue Nov 7, 2023 3:06 am

JDR720 wrote:OKC trade.

Charlotte trades = Nick Richards, Thor, 2nd.

OKC trades = Jaylin Williams, Pokusevski.

Why for us? We get a 3&D PF/SF and take a swing on Poku (who for some reason is out of OKC's rotation this year).
Why for them? They get a C that isn't a human twig.


Nick Richards is to valuable to trade. Mark Williams is leading the league in FG% and has excellent True Shooting %(0.82), but Nick Richards is not very far behind him in true shooting %(0.79).

Nick Richards has also been leading the league in block rate through these 6 games if he had enough minutes to qualify. So far this season he is giving us 2 blocks per game in only 17 min :o That is over 4 blks per 36

Probably what is happening is when Mark is coming out of the game the other team is thinking this is our chance to go to the basket, but Richards has been swatting everything in his minutes.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1071 » by MPM » Tue Nov 7, 2023 3:42 am

Random considerations - just food for thought after casually monitoring benches. Not an exhaustive list of realistic bench gets but a list. Sure, I'd love a guy like Brogdon but tough trade. Actually tough trades all around - even in the dregs zone below - maybe some teams see value in Bouk's expiring, or taking a flyer on a very young project under contract in McGowens, a 2nd or 2nds as sweetener, etc.

Backup PG depth

Tyus Jones – only because he doesn’t make a lot of sense for Wiz. Good backup playing as a starter on an expiring for a rebuilder probably eying lottery balls.

Kira Lewis – forgotten man in NO

Dosunmu – tougher get but Carter, Caruso seem to be seeing the bulk of bench minutes. Combo guy but will put him here.


Wing depth

AJ Griffin – mystery.

Reggie Bullock Jr. – old man on young team.

Svi Mykhailiuk – loved Svi when he was here – not playing much in Boston. Not sure Celts would move him – cheap one year deal for a smart shooter.

Kenyon Martin Jr – athletic, rim runner – good cutter, strong weakside defender. Seems to be a man without minutes and an easier get.


End of bench bigs/3rd string centers

Jericho Sims – no real minutes this year

Bamba – no real minutes this year

Richuan Holmes – no real minutes this year

Bruno Fernando – no real minutes this year

Aleksej Pokusevski – seems to have been moved to bench. Likely not as cheap as above.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1072 » by JMAC3 » Tue Nov 7, 2023 1:32 pm

JDR720 wrote:Small trade.

Charlotte trades: Bouknight or McGowans + 2nd round pick.

Nets trade: Dennis Smith Jr.

Why for us? Get Dennis back, he only plays 13mpg for the Nets.

Why for them? Get another prospect and a draft pick for someone they barely play.


Hilarious Dennis isn't playing after he thought he would play more there than here. I say let him rot on their bench.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1073 » by JMAC3 » Tue Nov 7, 2023 1:40 pm

MPM wrote:Random considerations - just food for thought after casually monitoring benches. Not an exhaustive list of realistic bench gets but a list. Sure, I'd love a guy like Brogdon but tough trade. Actually tough trades all around - even in the dregs zone below - maybe some teams see value in Bouk's expiring, or taking a flyer on a very young project under contract in McGowens, a 2nd or 2nds as sweetener, etc.

Backup PG depth

Tyus Jones – only because he doesn’t make a lot of sense for Wiz. Good backup playing as a starter on an expiring for a rebuilder probably eying lottery balls.

Kira Lewis – forgotten man in NO

Dosunmu – tougher get but Carter, Caruso seem to be seeing the bulk of bench minutes. Combo guy but will put him here.


Wing depth

AJ Griffin – mystery.

Reggie Bullock Jr. – old man on young team.

Svi Mykhailiuk – loved Svi when he was here – not playing much in Boston. Not sure Celts would move him – cheap one year deal for a smart shooter.

Kenyon Martin Jr – athletic, rim runner – good cutter, strong weakside defender. Seems to be a man without minutes and an easier get.


End of bench bigs/3rd string centers

Jericho Sims – no real minutes this year

Bamba – no real minutes this year

Richuan Holmes – no real minutes this year

Bruno Fernando – no real minutes this year

Aleksej Pokusevski – seems to have been moved to bench. Likely not as cheap as above.


Not a bad list, I don't think of the centers on this list are better than Richards though, so if we are talking about 3rd centers then sure. I also think we can probably just grab a 3rd center from the Gleague at some point this year and put him on a 2way.

Hawks probably would want a first for Griffin still, only 20 years old. Probably not in a rush to trade him whether he is playing or not. Svi, KJ and Bullock don't feel like they are making us any better. If we are going to make a trade for a wing I would want a clear cut top 8 type of guy. I like all 3 pg options, but Washington basically traded KP for Tyus Jones when all was said and done. Doubt they are ready to sell low on him, he also would be taking a pretty large step backwards in role as he is playing 9 more mpg than Theo right now and starting.

Kira has been pretty bad, maybe Bouknight and 2nd would be enough to just give each a fresh start.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1074 » by MPM » Tue Nov 7, 2023 1:48 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Not a bad list, I don't think of the centers on this list are better than Richards though, so if we are talking about 3rd centers then sure. I also think we can probably just grab a 3rd center from the Gleague at some point this year and put him on a 2way.

Hawks probably would want a first for Griffin still, only 20 years old. Probably not in a rush to trade him whether he is playing or not. Svi, KJ and Bullock don't feel like they are making us any better. If we are going to make a trade for a wing I would want a clear cut top 8 type of guy. I like all 3 pg options, but Washington basically traded KP for Tyus Jones when all was said and done. Doubt they are ready to sell low on him, he also would be taking a pretty large step backwards in role as he is playing 9 more mpg than Theo right now and starting.

Kira has been pretty bad, maybe Bouknight and 2nd would be enough to just give each a fresh start.


Yeah, apart from Jones, Griffin, and Dosunmu basically looking at in-a-pinch players. Agree that Nick should be fixed as our backup - list of centers are ones I'd hope we could pick up for pennies in the case one our 5's goes down or foul trouble a la Pistons game.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1075 » by LofJ » Tue Nov 7, 2023 4:44 pm

I still want us to trade for Delon Wright. He should come cheap and give us exactly what we need - POA defense and enough playmaking and shooting to not be a liability.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1076 » by MPM » Tue Nov 7, 2023 5:18 pm

LofJ wrote:I still want us to trade for Delon Wright. He should come cheap and give us exactly what we need - POA defense and enough playmaking and shooting to not be a liability.


I'm a fan as well. The scuttle had us eyeing him back in July when DSJ left and that Delon might be had for a couple of seconds. If we could pry him away for Bouk and a second, I'd be very happy.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1077 » by luciano-davidwesley » Tue Nov 7, 2023 9:50 pm

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JDR720 wrote:Small trade.

Charlotte trades: Bouknight or McGowans + 2nd round pick.

Nets trade: Dennis Smith Jr.

Why for us? Get Dennis back, he only plays 13mpg for the Nets.

Why for them? Get another prospect and a draft pick for someone they barely play.


Hilarious Dennis isn't playing after he thought he would play more there than here. I say let him rot on their bench.

Yeah that idiot left a better situation in his home state with more money because he got in his feels we didn't stroke his ego the moment free agency opened.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1078 » by Rich4114 » Wed Nov 8, 2023 6:59 pm

JMAC3 wrote:.............. know I am about to get stoned for this, but trading for Brogdon would be a good move. Problem is we don't have any contracts to trade for him unless we give up one of our top guys. Would be nice to have another contract in the 10-15 range that we could deal... cough cough Oubre.


You won't get stoned by me, I'd love to get Brogdon on this team. It solves two problems in one, maybe three. He's exactly what we need in the backcourt, willing to come off the bench, has experience, is smart, good shooter, etc. Could something be worked out with Terry + prospect to get say Brogdon and another piece or two?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1079 » by JMAC3 » Wed Nov 8, 2023 11:06 pm

Rich4114 wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:.............. know I am about to get stoned for this, but trading for Brogdon would be a good move. Problem is we don't have any contracts to trade for him unless we give up one of our top guys. Would be nice to have another contract in the 10-15 range that we could deal... cough cough Oubre.


You won't get stoned by me, I'd love to get Brogdon on this team. It solves two problems in one, maybe three. He's exactly what we need in the backcourt, willing to come off the bench, has experience, is smart, good shooter, etc. Could something be worked out with Terry + prospect to get say Brogdon and another piece or two?


Trading Terry for Brogdon makes us slightly better, but our depth is still lacking. That is why having other tradeable contracts would be so valuable right now. Everyone that can help in a trade is in our top 7 guys.

Not to mention Portland would probably want picks to take on the longer money of Rozier.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#1080 » by JMAC3 » Wed Nov 8, 2023 11:19 pm

Let this sink in.... 19 NBA teams have a minimum $20 million more dollars in contracts on their roster than Hornets.
12 have 40 more million in contracts on their roster than Hornets.

Obviously much easier to make deals when you have more options, assuming more of those options aren't playing.

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