NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24

[CobraCommander]

Another MVP performance for Joker.

Such a shame he's already out of the race.

Them Philly boyz out here trying to trick us- they might as well work for ESPN - everyone watching basketball knows Embiid ain’t even top 5

[Mrakar]

Again with a Sombor-double. One assist shy of TD. If im not mistaken it is 41st in his career.
I know couple of guys who would go for that assist

[Floody23]

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While resting multiple 4th quarters. MVP.

It’s straight up embarrassing that Sixers fans are even on this thread after all the complaining about Jokic last year only to see their boy stink it up in the playoffs.

Do us all a favour, get off & come back when Embiid actually does something when it counts.

[KyRo23]

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While resting multiple 4th quarters. MVP.

He could average those numbers nightly and the NBA would not give him another MVP this season

[Johnny Firpo]

Embiid is playing well, but not as well as Joker, Curry, Tatum or Luka. His efficiency is actually a lot lower so far than it was last year. Yes, the playmaking is nice, but Joker and Luka beats him there too. He is currently fifth behind Joker, Curry, Luka and Tatum imo.

[Wolfgang630]

Every year there’s different goal posts with these 76ers fans

[Jhawk03]

Every year there’s different goal posts with these 76ers fans

76ers fans outta be ashamed of themselves. Embiid will never win an MVP award.

Please don't attack/bait entire fanbases. They aren't all the same person and comments like this just make threads hostile. Thx. -b

[Exp0sed]

Every year there’s different goal posts with these 76ers fans

76ers fans outta be ashamed of themselves. Embiid will never win an MVP award.

it's not 76ers fans, it's just a couple of chronic obsessive posters.

[Mavrelous]

After Jokic, Tatum is making a strong case, best player on the Celtics, if they do end up with the best record, approach 60 wins, and the Nuggets let go towards the end to save power for the PO like last year, it'll be tight with Jokic.

[Floody23]

After Jokic, Tatum is making a strong case, best player on the Celtics, if they do end up with the best record, approach 60 wins, and the Nuggets let go towards the end to save power for the PO like last year, it'll be tight with Jokic.

I do wonder if the media will favour Tatum simply because their hasn’t been a North American MVP since 2018 ?

[Mavrelous]

After Jokic, Tatum is making a strong case, best player on the Celtics, if they do end up with the best record, approach 60 wins, and the Nuggets let go towards the end to save power for the PO like last year, it'll be tight with Jokic.

I do wonder if the media will favour Tatum simply because their hasn’t been a North American MVP since 2018 ?

This might've been possible if last year debacle didn't happen, no one will bring up anything not basketball related after what happened last year.

[QPR]

After Jokic, Tatum is making a strong case, best player on the Celtics, if they do end up with the best record, approach 60 wins, and the Nuggets let go towards the end to save power for the PO like last year, it'll be tight with Jokic.

I do wonder if the media will favour Tatum simply because their hasn’t been a North American MVP since 2018 ?

It'd have to be the old "best player on the best team" award because he's not close to being as valuable as Jokic. That's not a slight on Tatum either.

[_NoMas]

Already feels like there’s a clear top 5 of Jokic, Tatum, Luka, Steph and Embiid - and they will likely remain in the conversation throughout the year. I expect Giannis is the only other player likely to join the race - with Mitchell as my dark horse pick for a potential top 5 spot if the Cavs can put some wins together

[Woodsanity]

Don't even know how Embiid stans have the gall to post all this nonsense with how he chokes every postseason.

[Exp0sed]

After Jokic, Tatum is making a strong case, best player on the Celtics, if they do end up with the best record, approach 60 wins, and the Nuggets let go towards the end to save power for the PO like last year, it'll be tight with Jokic.

I do wonder if the media will favour Tatum simply because their hasn’t been a North American MVP since 2018 ?

It'd have to be the old "best player on the best team" award because he's not close to being as valuable as Jokic. That's not a slight on Tatum either.

well yeah, but that's been the default for many past MVP's
personally I think those days have gone by. for instance when Booker was getting some 5th place votes on a Suns team that was the clear best rs team with the clear best record, while arguably not even being as important and effective as CP3 - i thought it was pretty wild to consider him for MVP when there are a few candidates who were just a tier or even two tiers above him as a player

Tatum is better than Booker but it's still hard to argue he's actually close to the true top guns and I don't see how a few extra team wins, which are obviously helped by having basically 4 all-stars on the floor - gets u MVP in this and age

Tatum has started red hot and is scoring 30 on 20 FGA and 67.7 ts% which is pretty wild. he'll cool off some but he's entering his prime and teams just can't load up on him at all now with the C's having such quality in their lineup so I Think he should continue to score easily, efficiently and in bunches

and he deserves major props for also upping his rebounding, currently after 5 games he's at a career high mark of 9.6 Rebs
incredible job all in all but still, in a world where guys like Jokic and Luka exist, it just is what it is - it's mazing but still, it's not good enough

Luka still needs to carry Dallas to comparable records which is hard with a weaker roster but there's no reason to think the C's would be that far ahead of the Nuggets when all is said and done, record wise

so a couple of extra wins imo, do not close the gap between Tatum and the top tier

raw stats? 30\9.5\3.5 is awesome but it's hardly comparable to the trip dub brothers, especially since Tatum might edge Luka on efficiency as teams really can't load up on him the way they do Luka but it's unlikely he'll edge the "Big Tipper"

defense? meh, that's very hard to quantify, usually relatively negligble in MVP considerations (historically) and I don't even think Tatum has played some great defense this year, he had no need to as the C's are pummeling opponents

if they were like 5 wins apart, say the Nuggets with 54 wins and the C's with 60 - that'd def make it more of a discussion imo

[CobraCommander]

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While resting multiple 4th quarters. MVP.

He could average those numbers nightly and the NBA would not give him another MVP this season

He could double those numbers and the NBA would not gift him another MVP

[zero rings]

The “anyone but Jokic” crowd is still out there and they will be looking for someone to rally around to deny him the MVP. With how well the Celtics are playing, Tatum is looking like the front runner to soak up these votes.

Don’t be surprised when Perkins and Stephen A become the world’s biggest Tatum fans in the next few months.

[ROballer]

Time to add Haliburton to the poll option as the 10th man, to make it round.

No, he probably won't have a chance at MVP because of team record.

Yes, he will most definitely finish top 10 over some of the guys in the poll if the Pacers do make it to the playoffs.

Averaging 24/4/12 on 49/39/92 shooting splits this season.

No player has ever averaged 20/10 with 50/40/90 shooting splits. He's a lock for the first, he just needs to keep the percentages up.

No player has averaged 25/13. He might get very close to that if he's seeing a tad more of the 33 mpg he's seeing now.

His season low is 11 ast in a game right now, with a 4+:1 assist to turnover ratio.


Pacers are abysmal when he's not on the court, they lost by 51 against the Celtics without him and they are by any advanced metric plain better when he's on the court in every other game. He's a + on every single game he played, except for the Cavs game in which he was a -1 in a 12 point loss.

Pacers currently 3-2 with him playing, they dropped a winnable game last night(+8 for Hali when on the court).

[LordCovington33]

Don't even know how Embiid stans have the gall to post all this nonsense with how he chokes every postseason.

It’s is a regular season award in case you didn’t realise. So, if somebody is playing in the REGULAR season despite their post-season flaws, they shouldn’t be discussed? So fans are not allowed to discuss a certain player even if that player is doing well in the REGULAR season?

[steefP2]

It should be jokic. Only way Tatum gets it is if the Celtics have at least 6 or more wins than the nuggets which will be very hard to pull off. This Celtics team is a wagon but Denver looking like a similarly large regular season monster