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Re: Official NBA General Discussion 2022-23 V5.0 

Post#1741 » by ItsDanger » Sun Nov 5, 2023 3:50 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:It must be exhausting criticizing other posters non stop. Other GMs obviously agree with having actual bench pieces that are useful when injuries occur. I interpret your comments as the bench doesn't need to be filled with competent backups. It also means you're perfectly content with the end of bench players that the Raps currently have AND each of the 3 two-ways.

Where did I say that?

You just scroll through other teams stats and find outlier performances and "WHY DID WE NOT SIGN THIS GUY?" and ignore the other dozens of pathetic performances to understand why Goga signed a MASSIVE 2 year, 2.6M deal.

Here you go, take a read through the Pacers reddit thread from when he was waiver, in the middle of a season, on a rookie deal:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pacers/comments/10y04vq/shams_pacers_are_waiving_goga_bitadze_sources_said/

The highlight of his time here was when he nearly got into a fight with the coaches.

Didn’t he try to attacking someone outside of a locker room at a FIBA event?

About time. Another wasted first rounder.


This highlights the importance of actually watching basketball games. I cannot stress enough the importance in doing so.

Honestly, I’m actually a bit stunned that he’s pumping up Goga. He’s just taking this way too far. :lol:

The tag team doesn't want a 3rd string C in case of injury. Bench? What's that for? Lets overpay some cheerleaders who can't play at all. Now apply your logic to the current bench.
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Re: Official NBA General Discussion 2022-23 V5.0 

Post#1742 » by YogurtProducer » Sun Nov 5, 2023 3:57 pm

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YogurtProducer wrote:Where did I say that?

You just scroll through other teams stats and find outlier performances and "WHY DID WE NOT SIGN THIS GUY?" and ignore the other dozens of pathetic performances to understand why Goga signed a MASSIVE 2 year, 2.6M deal.

Here you go, take a read through the Pacers reddit thread from when he was waiver, in the middle of a season, on a rookie deal:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pacers/comments/10y04vq/shams_pacers_are_waiving_goga_bitadze_sources_said/





This highlights the importance of actually watching basketball games. I cannot stress enough the importance in doing so.

Honestly, I’m actually a bit stunned that he’s pumping up Goga. He’s just taking this way too far. :lol:

The tag team doesn't want a 3rd string C in case of injury. Bench? What's that for? Lets overpay some cheerleaders who can't play at all. Now apply your logic to the current bench.

If you are relying on your 3rd stringers in any case you are in trouble.

Is Goga a better 3rd string center that provides more value than scaling down and playing small ball if we have injuries to Jakob/Boucher/Precious/Koloko simultaneously?
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Re: Official NBA General Discussion 2022-23 V5.0 

Post#1743 » by 2019nbachamps » Sun Nov 5, 2023 3:59 pm

FVV still trash. Highest paid player on the team and 8th highest shooting percentage. Gonna get exposed all season.
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Post#1744 » by ItsDanger » Sun Nov 5, 2023 4:00 pm

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This highlights the importance of actually watching basketball games. I cannot stress enough the importance in doing so.

Honestly, I’m actually a bit stunned that he’s pumping up Goga. He’s just taking this way too far. :lol:

The tag team doesn't want a 3rd string C in case of injury. Bench? What's that for? Lets overpay some cheerleaders who can't play at all. Now apply your logic to the current bench.

If you are relying on your 3rd stringers in any case you are in trouble.

Is Goga a better 3rd string center that provides more value than scaling down and playing small ball if we have injuries to Jakob/Boucher/Precious/Koloko simultaneously?

Then by your quote, EVERY team is in trouble at various points during the season. Some more than others if they have no legit backups on the bench. I get you don't believe in depth, but this just shows your true colours.
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Re: Official NBA General Discussion 2022-23 V5.0 

Post#1745 » by YogurtProducer » Sun Nov 5, 2023 4:04 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
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ItsDanger wrote:The tag team doesn't want a 3rd string C in case of injury. Bench? What's that for? Lets overpay some cheerleaders who can't play at all. Now apply your logic to the current bench.

If you are relying on your 3rd stringers in any case you are in trouble.

Is Goga a better 3rd string center that provides more value than scaling down and playing small ball if we have injuries to Jakob/Boucher/Precious/Koloko simultaneously?

Then by your quote, EVERY team is in trouble at various points during the season. Some more than others if they have no legit backups on the bench. I get you don't believe in depth, but this just shows your true colours.


I don't believe in depth :lol:
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Post#1746 » by ItsDanger » Sun Nov 5, 2023 4:06 pm

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YogurtProducer wrote:If you are relying on your 3rd stringers in any case you are in trouble.

Is Goga a better 3rd string center that provides more value than scaling down and playing small ball if we have injuries to Jakob/Boucher/Precious/Koloko simultaneously?

Then by your quote, EVERY team is in trouble at various points during the season. Some more than others if they have no legit backups on the bench. I get you don't believe in depth, but this just shows your true colours.


I don't believe in depth :lol:

Good comeback. You don't value depth on the bench. That's obvious.
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Post#1747 » by BHF » Sun Nov 5, 2023 4:07 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Damn man, Mobley hasn't improved at all since his rookie year. Same exact player.


He reminds me of a young Myles Turner. Very good but not a star.
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Re: Official NBA General Discussion 2022-23 V5.0 

Post#1748 » by YogurtProducer » Sun Nov 5, 2023 4:17 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:Then by your quote, EVERY team is in trouble at various points during the season. Some more than others if they have no legit backups on the bench. I get you don't believe in depth, but this just shows your true colours.


I don't believe in depth :lol:

Good comeback. You don't value depth on the bench. That's obvious.

Oh yes - that is why I have been advocating to move Siakam for bench depth, or last year I spoke about moving FVV for benhc pieces. It is because I don't value depth!

Goga =/= depth by the way. He sucks.
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Post#1749 » by YogurtProducer » Sun Nov 5, 2023 4:22 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:It must be exhausting criticizing other posters non stop. Other GMs obviously agree with having actual bench pieces that are useful when injuries occur. I interpret your comments as the bench doesn't need to be filled with competent backups. It also means you're perfectly content with the end of bench players that the Raps currently have AND each of the 3 two-ways.

Where did I say that?

You just scroll through other teams stats and find outlier performances and "WHY DID WE NOT SIGN THIS GUY?" and ignore the other dozens of pathetic performances to understand why Goga signed a MASSIVE 2 year, 2.6M deal.

Here you go, take a read through the Pacers reddit thread from when he was waiver, in the middle of a season, on a rookie deal:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pacers/comments/10y04vq/shams_pacers_are_waiving_goga_bitadze_sources_said/

The highlight of his time here was when he nearly got into a fight with the coaches.

Didn’t he try to attacking someone outside of a locker room at a FIBA event?

About time. Another wasted first rounder.

All these people online are not paid $15M. All these people online shouldn't be expected to explain every detail of every possible outcome for your convenience.

Your comments 100% indicate that you don't feel having backup players as injury insurance is important. I can find other examples of players around the league so refencing some minor off the court stuff is just immaterial.

This has been an ongoing pattern with the current management in recent seasons, its just a fact that can't be denied. Poor bench, ignoring obvious skill deficits on the roster.

Are you paid $15M? Why is your opinion somehow superior to other random online posters?

Edit: I would love to see if you were commenting on how we need Goga last year. You seem to love bringing up what we should have done after the fact, but you never do beforehand. Captain Hindsight over here :crazy:
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Post#1750 » by Los_29 » Sun Nov 5, 2023 4:28 pm

2019nbachamps wrote:FVV still trash. Highest paid player on the team and 8th highest shooting percentage. Gonna get exposed all season.


12 assists and their team has a better record than us. Lol.
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Post#1751 » by Spates » Sun Nov 5, 2023 6:07 pm

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2019nbachamps wrote:FVV still trash. Highest paid player on the team and 8th highest shooting percentage. Gonna get exposed all season.


12 assists and their team has a better record than us. Lol.

Before we attribute anything to FVV look at how well Brooks is shooting. Memphis might be missing him right now.
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Post#1752 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Nov 5, 2023 6:10 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
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ItsDanger wrote:The tag team doesn't want a 3rd string C in case of injury. Bench? What's that for? Lets overpay some cheerleaders who can't play at all. Now apply your logic to the current bench.

If you are relying on your 3rd stringers in any case you are in trouble.

Is Goga a better 3rd string center that provides more value than scaling down and playing small ball if we have injuries to Jakob/Boucher/Precious/Koloko simultaneously?

Then by your quote, EVERY team is in trouble at various points during the season. Some more than others if they have no legit backups on the bench. I get you don't believe in depth, but this just shows your true colours.


Moreover, we are currently relying on a 3rd string PG, at best, to be our 2nd string PG. Not because of injury but because of lack of any other PG on the roster, let alone a decent #2 PG.
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Post#1753 » by HumbleRen » Sun Nov 5, 2023 6:19 pm

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Post#1754 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Nov 5, 2023 6:22 pm

Watching replay of GSW OKC game from Friday. 3rd quarter, just tuned in and within 5 minutes Curry does two flailing flops as he releases a 3. And wasn't touched. No foul called on the D either time thankfully, and Steph made both. But what he did is the exact definition of the new anti-flopping rule, exaggerated overly dramatic reaction. I wonder if he'll be called for the new rule even once this year.

Then Chris Paul flops catching an inbound pass after a basket, gets the call. OKC announcer properly called it out, putting him on the line totally undeserved.

Between the two floppers and the behaviour Draymond gets away with, GSW are becoming very unlikeable to me.

OKC playing great without Shae early 4th as I'm watching
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Post#1755 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Nov 5, 2023 6:23 pm

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Post#1756 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Nov 5, 2023 6:30 pm

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This should be an easy suspension. This dude is always looking to injure people. They gave him a flagrant 1 only. He even flopped after doing this :lol:

And clearly Embiid knows what he's doing, has control of his own elbow. Like when Lebron smashed Ish Stewart with an elbow to the nose a couple years ago, definitely not inadvertent
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Post#1757 » by Vampirate » Sun Nov 5, 2023 6:36 pm

2019nbachamps wrote:FVV still trash. Highest paid player on the team and 8th highest shooting percentage. Gonna get exposed all season.


Tbh, the biggest problem with FVV and that contract is not so much the years or money, it's that FVV is good enough to take touches away from the young guys and has the ego to do it. He's not really going to take a step back for anyone.

The sooner the Rockets get rid of him the better as that'll give more opportunities to Sengun who should be the Rockets primary scoring option at this point.

They need to focus developing Sengun first and foremost, and FVV counters that. At least with Brooks, he's not going to act more than a role player.


In other words, FVV needs to be on a team where he can clearly tell there are Star players way better than him, otherwise he holds your team back.
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Post#1758 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Nov 5, 2023 7:03 pm

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2019nbachamps wrote:FVV still trash. Highest paid player on the team and 8th highest shooting percentage. Gonna get exposed all season.


Tbh, the biggest problem with FVV and that contract is not so much the years or money, it's that FVV is good enough to take touches away from the young guys and has the ego to do it. He's not really going to take a step back for anyone.

The sooner the Rockets get rid of him the better as that'll give more opportunities to Sengun who should be the Rockets primary scoring option at this point.

They need to focus developing Sengun first and foremost, and FVV counters that. At least with Brooks, he's not going to act more than a role player.


In other words, FVV needs to be on a team where he can clearly tell there are Star players way better than him, otherwise he holds your team back.

That team with Star players would not pay Fred $43M.

Fwiw, much as I'm a Fred critic and am glad he's gone, every time I watch parts of Rockets games he seems to have good chemistry with Sengun.
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Post#1759 » by Vampirate » Sun Nov 5, 2023 7:21 pm

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2019nbachamps wrote:FVV still trash. Highest paid player on the team and 8th highest shooting percentage. Gonna get exposed all season.


Tbh, the biggest problem with FVV and that contract is not so much the years or money, it's that FVV is good enough to take touches away from the young guys and has the ego to do it. He's not really going to take a step back for anyone.

The sooner the Rockets get rid of him the better as that'll give more opportunities to Sengun who should be the Rockets primary scoring option at this point.

They need to focus developing Sengun first and foremost, and FVV counters that. At least with Brooks, he's not going to act more than a role player.


In other words, FVV needs to be on a team where he can clearly tell there are Star players way better than him, otherwise he holds your team back.

That team with Star players would not pay Fred $43M.

Fwiw, much as I'm a Fred critic and am glad he's gone, every time I watch parts of Rockets games he seems to have good chemistry with Sengun.


FVV is the leading shot taker on that team at 17 FGA, Sengun who's imo much better is at 13 FGA.

Yes, FVV has alot of assists as well, the issue is running your team through him for a rebuilding team like the Rockets is bad is not because FVV has a low BBIQ, it's because FVV has an ego. To an extent, that ego got to where he is at so kudos, but yeah.

I'm saying, forget contract, the team FVV would be best suited for are teams with Star players that would tell FVV to do his role, such as the Clippers.

The Rockets are not one of those teams and the Raptors post Kawhi weren't one of those teams either.
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Post#1760 » by Tha Cynic » Sun Nov 5, 2023 8:10 pm

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This should be an easy suspension. This dude is always looking to injure people. They gave him a flagrant 1 only. He even flopped after doing this :lol:

And clearly Embiid knows what he's doing, has control of his own elbow. Like when Lebron smashed Ish Stewart with an elbow to the nose a couple years ago, definitely not inadvertent


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