Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6

[Chandan]

Scottie stats now after the Spurs win

22.6 ppg
9.9 rpg
5.9 apg
2.1 bpg
1.1 spg
FG% 51.3
3FG% 42.1
FT% 75.9

if he gets 20/10/6 for the season... i am sure he would be MIP.

[tdotrep2]

Scottie stats now after the Spurs win

22.6 ppg
9.9 rpg
5.9 apg
2.1 bpg
1.1 spg
FG% 51.3
3FG% 42.1
FT% 75.9

if he gets 20/10/6 for the season... i am sure he would be MIP.

i feel like he should hit around 22 ppg

[sidsid]

I wouldn't worry too much about the shooting efficiency dropping, as it will. The paint effeciency is already unusually low due to the Jak/spacing/low starter bench rotations. His assists should probably also be higher if he was in more of the primary playmaking positions that Jak and Dennis are monopolizing too much of in this offense.

We're only about 50% of the way to optimizing his playstyle. Up from the 0% that Nurse was running, but plenty of room to grow. If the coach made the necessary adjustments he should've been closer to 25 ppg average with assists around 7 with this hot start he's having.

[PhilBlackson]

Scottie stats now after the Spurs win

22.6 ppg
9.9 rpg
5.9 apg
2.1 bpg
1.1 spg
FG% 51.3
3FG% 42.1
FT% 75.9

if he gets 20/10/6 for the season... i am sure he would be MIP.

It’s gonna be really tough to beat Maxey.

Not only is he gonna explode with his scoring numbers, the media narrative is already biased that way with Harden’s departure, meanwhile our team barely exists in the minds of US media. I think it would/will literally take Pascal being traded fairly soon & Scottie averaging like 23+ppg because I think Maxey is gonna near the mid 20s or more unless PHI does in fact trade those picks for Zach or one of our guys.

[DatHomieYouHaTe]

I think his biggest weakness is he doesn't know how good he is.. This game you could see how good he is but i just remember him against Lebron in his rookie year at home and I was like damn, he can do this every game if he wanted. You see him doing stepback jumpers for 3, fade aways, dominating the post and clutch as it gets. For some reason he goes into roleplayer mode at times... Who's gonna let him know he's him? Maybe this is the game for him where it clicks cause I think he can dominate lol

[DemHeavyHands]

Could Scottie win eastern conf player of the week? This week he went for 24/11/5/1.5/1.5

Team only went 2-2 tho. Haven’t looked into it deep enough to see who else would be a candidate, but with all the hype he got today he’s gotta be considered

[Tha Cynic]

This is nuts man, I'm waiting for his shot to regress but he keeps loading those cannons

The shot looks too pure now. Even if he does regress, it's one where you're confident he can get better. The way he runs away like Steph before the basket even goes in on his 3's is hilarious, but he's that confident with that jumper.

[HiJiNX]

Something I've been watching very closely is how he shoots with the clock winding down because on eye test at least, in the second half of last season it always felt like he made late clock jumpers consistently:

This is with 4 seconds or less on the shot clock so far this season:

Restricted area: 2/4
Mid-Range: 3/5
Above the Break 3: 1/2

It's small sample size, but even going back to last season, when he shoots jumpers with the clock winding down, he has a knack for making those.

The reverse Siakam, Siakam has a habit of starting strong and disappears later in games, Barnes can start of badly and just turn it on in the 4th.

I remember last year the media was complaining about why Barnes would only play half the game, that half was in the 4th quarter usually.

Tbh, Barnes started off scoring like crap and I was prepared to shrug my shoulders and chalk it up to the Wemby effect.

Wemby is absurd defensively, so I wouldn't be too worried had Barnes had a bad offensive game today.

It’s wild how quick Barnes figured Wemby out. It didn’t take him to have a bad game and watch the film later to see that he couldn’t score on him at the rim so he resorted to running him around the perimeter instead. Kid is super smart.

[Tha Cynic]

Scottie stats now after the Spurs win

22.6 ppg
9.9 rpg
5.9 apg
2.1 bpg
1.1 spg
FG% 51.3
3FG% 42.1
FT% 75.9

if he gets 20/10/6 for the season... i am sure he would be MIP.

It’s gonna be really tough to beat Maxey.

Not only is he gonna explode with his scoring numbers, the media narrative is already biased that way with Harden’s departure, meanwhile our team barely exists in the minds of US media. I think it would/will literally take Pascal being traded fairly soon & Scottie averaging like 23+ppg because I think Maxey is gonna near the mid 20s or more unless PHI does in fact trade those picks for Zach or one of our guys.

The way the NBA is set up and narratives work, they would even give Cunningham the trophy before Barnes imo. There's a hype machine that can't be beat sometimes, and unfortunately Barnes plays in Canada.

[PhilBlackson]

if he gets 20/10/6 for the season... i am sure he would be MIP.

It’s gonna be really tough to beat Maxey.

Not only is he gonna explode with his scoring numbers, the media narrative is already biased that way with Harden’s departure, meanwhile our team barely exists in the minds of US media. I think it would/will literally take Pascal being traded fairly soon & Scottie averaging like 23+ppg because I think Maxey is gonna near the mid 20s or more unless PHI does in fact trade those picks for Zach or one of our guys.

The way the NBA is set up and narratives work, they would even give Cunningham the trophy before Barnes imo. There's a hype machine that can't be beat sometimes, and unfortunately Barnes plays in Canada.

Seriously smh.

Not that they talk about Cade a lot but they do still do so at times. It’s like Scottie doesn’t exist and I’m certain if he played on a half decent or well known team that he’d be talked about waaaay more. If I honestly put my bias aside and watched Scottie’s highlights I’d be like that dude is gonna be a star, he just plays different and stands out on the court but yet not with American media lol

[HiJiNX]

It’s gonna be really tough to beat Maxey.

Not only is he gonna explode with his scoring numbers, the media narrative is already biased that way with Harden’s departure, meanwhile our team barely exists in the minds of US media. I think it would/will literally take Pascal being traded fairly soon & Scottie averaging like 23+ppg because I think Maxey is gonna near the mid 20s or more unless PHI does in fact trade those picks for Zach or one of our guys.

The way the NBA is set up and narratives work, they would even give Cunningham the trophy before Barnes imo. There's a hype machine that can't be beat sometimes, and unfortunately Barnes plays in Canada.

Seriously smh.

Not that they talk about Cade a lot but they do still do so at times. It’s like Scottie doesn’t exist and I’m certain if he played on a half decent or well known team that he’d be talked about waaaay more. If I honestly put my bias aside and watched Scottie’s highlights I’d be like that dude is gonna be a star, he just plays different and stands out on the court but yet not with American media lol

We keep getting wins and performances like these and they’ll have to notice. Just gotta keep getting dubs.

[Vampirate]

Something I've been watching very closely is how he shoots with the clock winding down because on eye test at least, in the second half of last season it always felt like he made late clock jumpers consistently:

This is with 4 seconds or less on the shot clock so far this season:

Restricted area: 2/4
Mid-Range: 3/5
Above the Break 3: 1/2

It's small sample size, but even going back to last season, when he shoots jumpers with the clock winding down, he has a knack for making those.

The reverse Siakam, Siakam has a habit of starting strong and disappears later in games, Barnes can start of badly and just turn it on in the 4th.

I remember last year the media was complaining about why Barnes would only play half the game, that half was in the 4th quarter usually.

Tbh, Barnes started off scoring like crap and I was prepared to shrug my shoulders and chalk it up to the Wemby effect.

Wemby is absurd defensively, so I wouldn't be too worried had Barnes had a bad offensive game today.

It’s wild how quick Barnes figured Wemby out. It didn’t take him to have a bad game and watch the film later to see that he couldn’t score on him at the rim so he resorted to running him around the perimeter instead. Kid is super smart.

I watched a clip of Barnes going one on one against Wemby, he almost broke Wemby's ankles but didn't quite finish the move.

Barnes stepped back and when he saw Wemby try to contest the three point shot, he probably knew it would've been blocked so he passed it to Schroder, which then had Wemby focus on Schroder.

This gave Barnes an advantage as he slightly moved around the perimiter and as soon as Schroder passed the ball back it was over, Wemby was not in position to contest the drive.

The way to beat Wemby, is to simply get him out of position and have someone capable of capitalizing on it.

Defensively, Wemby is an exaggerated Evan Mobley, but if say Lebron dashes to the net and Wemby is out of position, there's not much he can do.

[Chandan]

The way to beat Wemby, is to simply get him out of position and have someone capable of capitalizing on it.

Defensively, Wemby is an exaggerated Evan Mobley, but if say Lebron dashes to the net and Wemby is out of position, there's not much he can do.

not only that, you have to put your body on him so he doesn't get to run around freelancing. Apply maximum pressure as the ball handler so he cant rotate after the ball is kicked.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[hype_2004]

The way to beat Wemby, is to simply get him out of position and have someone capable of capitalizing on it.

Defensively, Wemby is an exaggerated Evan Mobley, but if say Lebron dashes to the net and Wemby is out of position, there's not much he can do.

not only that, you have to put your body on him so he doesn't get to run around freelancing. Apply maximum pressure as the ball handler so he cant rotate after the ball is kicked.

This kid is what 7'5 220-230 lbs? Put a body on him, shoulders, elbows, knees, to the body. That's the only way to test if he's capable of absorbing contact or he becomes timid and shies away from physical play. Sooner or later he will experience this, too much finessing with Wemby you have to physically challenge him, guys with his body type hate physical play especially on the boards.

[Thaddy]

I wouldn't mind if he chucked 5-8 threes a game if he's open and the look is good. We need him and Siakam to be good three point shooters for the current set of players we have to work.

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[brownbobcat]

The reverse Siakam, Siakam has a habit of starting strong and disappears later in games, Barnes can start of badly and just turn it on in the 4th.

I remember last year the media was complaining about why Barnes would only play half the game, that half was in the 4th quarter usually.

Tbh, Barnes started off scoring like crap and I was prepared to shrug my shoulders and chalk it up to the Wemby effect.

Wemby is absurd defensively, so I wouldn't be too worried had Barnes had a bad offensive game today.

It’s wild how quick Barnes figured Wemby out. It didn’t take him to have a bad game and watch the film later to see that he couldn’t score on him at the rim so he resorted to running him around the perimeter instead. Kid is super smart.

I watched a clip of Barnes going one on one against Wemby, he almost broke Wemby's ankles but didn't quite finish the move.

Barnes stepped back and when he saw Wemby try to contest the three point shot, he probably knew it would've been blocked so he passed it to Schroder, which then had Wemby focus on Schroder.

This gave Barnes an advantage as he slightly moved around the perimiter and as soon as Schroder passed the ball back it was over, Wemby was not in position to contest the drive.

The way to beat Wemby, is to simply get him out of position and have someone capable of capitalizing on it.

Defensively, Wemby is an exaggerated Evan Mobley, but if say Lebron dashes to the net and Wemby is out of position, there's not much he can do.

I was really juiced about this sequence too for so many reasons. Firstly, it takes a varied skillset to pull off those moves cleanly into a credible 3pt shot. Neither Wemby nor anybody else would've been lunging forward if Barnes was a sub-30% shooter. Secondly, the great patience and IQ on display setting up Wemby for the reset and eventual dribble-drive during a tense OT period. Awesome to watch.

[WuTang_CMB]

perfect vid to see how he absolutely took control of the game

this is a superstar

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[metafisical]

Love Scottie. I wish we had more players like him on our team, at the same age. Just trying to think of the best ways to obtain players of his age and calibre...?