Game Thread – Celtics @ Timberwolves – 8:00PM, Mon, Nov. 6, 2023

[BRUNiNHO91]

Well-deserved win by the Wolves. This is still our kryptonite. Face a tough defense, we rely on iso ball.

Doesn’t everybody though? Didn’t the ball movement Gods of the world just get their asses stuffed in against these dudes?

Minny wasn’t moving the ball either, their last 7 pts were all Edwards iso right in our faces lol basketball in the clutch is iso.

[VeryMuchWoke]

I don't mind losing, but the refs made this soooo ugly

The refs made it a loss. It probably would have been ugly either way.

[jfs1000d]

AOS level coaching and execution

Nah. Wasn’t great execution, but Minny is at least a good team.


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[fallguy]

Mazzulla ain't it, kids.

[zoyathedestroya]

Our new guys a combined 9/30, 2/10 from 3. Regroup. We can't keep playing this way and hope we win against the tougher teams with sheer talent.

[Triple M]

I dont think this is directly on the coach the players need to stop this damn iso ball. So far we've been out talenting teams and i was hoping as time goes on we would start to see the guys get a feel for each other and we would see more team ball

[zoyathedestroya]

Well-deserved win by the Wolves. This is still our kryptonite. Face a tough defense, we rely on iso ball.

Doesn’t everybody though? Didn’t the ball movement Gods of the world just get their asses stuffed in against these dudes?

Minny wasn’t moving the ball either, their last 7 pts were all Edwards iso right in our faces lol basketball in the clutch is iso.

The Nuggets don't. The Warriors don't. If we're going iso ball, our stars have to be elite at it. Or at least read defenses better.

[Triple7]

AOS level coaching and execution

Nah. Wasn’t great execution, but Minny is at least a good team.


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Ant man and Mcdaniels was good.

[Hal14]

Mazulla is horrible. Should have went after antman every play. Forced the refs to call

Eh. So take yourself out of any type of offensive rhythm, just run iso plays every trip down the floor which are one of the least efficient play types in basketball.

Also, if we had done that, Minnesota could have easily made adjustments. They could bring a 2nd defender to help Edwards, double teaming whichever one of our guys was going at Edwards. Then what?

Or, they could have switched defensively as soon as our guy started to attack Edwards in isolation. Then what?

[zoyathedestroya]

Well-deserved win by the Wolves. This is still our kryptonite. Face a tough defense, we rely on iso ball.

This is how they've been playing the last few games.

Yep, and my point is, it works against lesser defensive teams. Faced with physical, tough play, we crumble. See Warriors/Heat in the past. Call it confirmation bias but it's what I've been seeing past few years.

[Triple7]

Mazulla is horrible. Should have went after antman every play. Forced the refs to call

Eh. So take yourself out of any type of offensive rhythm, just run iso plays every trip down the floor which are one of the least efficient play types in basketball.

Also, if we had done that, Minnesota could have easily made adjustments. They could bring a 2nd defender to help Edwards, double teaming whichever one of our guys was going at Edwards. Then what?

Or, they could have switched defensively as soon as our guy started to attack Edwards in isolation. Then what?

Doesn’t matter. You still go at him and put pressure. Here you go again defending that turd of a coach.

[fallguy]

Well-deserved win by the Wolves. This is still our kryptonite. Face a tough defense, we rely on iso ball.

This is how they've been playing the last few games.

Yep, and my point is, it works against lesser defensive teams. Faced with physical, tough play, we crumble. See Warriors/Heat in the past. Call it confirmation bias but it's what I've been seeing past few years.

It's not changing until we get a real coach.

[CelticsPride18]

JT got locked up by Mcdaniels. End of story. Wolves won because Edwards made tough buckets

[BK_2020]

:lol: What the **** is Hauser doing there

He felt contact and heaved it up to get 3 free throws except these refs aren't having that.

Zero chance any ref is ever calling that. And even less than 0 when it's Sam **** Hauser shooting in crunch time.

Refs do call that regularly. Don't you remember Jimmy Butler salesmanship at the end of game 6 that put them up by 1? The refs weren't calling anything for us tonight though.

[Hal14]

Mazzulla ain't it, kids.

Why?

Because we lost in overtime, on the road, missing 1 of our best players, to a team that had all of their guys, a team with the top ranked offense in the league, a wolves team that came into this game having won 2 games in a row - both of them blowout wins, with 1 of those wins coming against the defending champs Nuggets?

[BRUNiNHO91]

Well-deserved win by the Wolves. This is still our kryptonite. Face a tough defense, we rely on iso ball.

Doesn’t everybody though? Didn’t the ball movement Gods of the world just get their asses stuffed in against these dudes?

Minny wasn’t moving the ball either, their last 7 pts were all Edwards iso right in our faces lol basketball in the clutch is iso.

The Nuggets don't. The Warriors don't. If we're going iso ball, our stars have to be elite at it. Or at least read defenses better.

They do though. Lol in the clutch teams space out and put the ball in their best players hands. That’s what we did. That’s what they did. Their guy did it better. Nobody is passing the ball around 10 times in order to get Hauser a shot. Don’t complain about iso ball, complain about the fact our two best guys are not good enough to do it at times.

[fallguy]

Mazzulla ain't it, kids.

Why?

Because we lost in overtime, on the road, missing 1 of our best players, to a team that had all of their guys, a team with the top ranked offense in the league, a wolves team that came into this game having won 2 games in a row - both of them blowout wins, with 1 of those wins coming against the defending champs Nuggets?

What are the major mistakes Joe made tonight (and in previous games)?

[Hal14]

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This is how they've been playing the last few games.

Yep, and my point is, it works against lesser defensive teams. Faced with physical, tough play, we crumble. See Warriors/Heat in the past. Call it confirmation bias but it's what I've been seeing past few years.

It's not changing until we get a real coach.

Huh? The issue Zoya is talking about - it was an issue when Udoka and Brad were coaching too.

Let's not overreact here, though. It's our 1st loss of the season. Obviously we weren't going 82-0.

[zoyathedestroya]

Doesn’t everybody though? Didn’t the ball movement Gods of the world just get their asses stuffed in against these dudes?

Minny wasn’t moving the ball either, their last 7 pts were all Edwards iso right in our faces lol basketball in the clutch is iso.

The Nuggets don't. The Warriors don't. If we're going iso ball, our stars have to be elite at it. Or at least read defenses better.

They do though. Lol in the clutch teams space out and put the ball in their best players hands. That’s what we did. That’s what they did. Their guy did it better. Nobody is passing the ball around 10 times in order to get Hauser a shot. Don’t complain about iso ball, complain about the fact our two best guys are not good enough to do it at times.

Yep. They put the ball in the stars hands and they read the defense better, pass when they should, take the shot when they should. Our guys just keep chucking. No need to pass the ball 7x. Set a screen. Draw a double. Something else other than dribble for 10 seconds and chuck from three. Or drive into traffic.

[Hal14]

Mazzulla ain't it, kids.

Why?

Because we lost in overtime, on the road, missing 1 of our best players, to a team that had all of their guys, a team with the top ranked offense in the league, a wolves team that came into this game having won 2 games in a row - both of them blowout wins, with 1 of those wins coming against the defending champs Nuggets?

What are the major mistakes Joe made tonight (and in previous games)?

Why are you asking me? You're the one bashing him - maybe you should answer that.