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Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM

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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#261 » by TimberKat » Tue Nov 7, 2023 4:18 pm

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To follow up shrink, you are right to defend him. Let's remember Kat is being asked to do different things at a different position. He's struggling to get it there.

Give him time and cut him some slack. You guys are brutal.

What are you going to say next game when Kat kills it? You'd sound pretty pathetic ten.

I'm not saying your points aren't valid either. Just put them in perspective.

Kat is an upper echelon player no doubt.


Naz is being asked to do the same thing and is killing it


No he isn't!

It's light years different. Kat got 3 ticky fouls on him right away which took him out of the game! That was the biggest problem. Look.. Towns could fart and they'd call a foul on him. I agree Towns is his worst enemy. Nevertheless.

The roll is totally different too.

Problem is he kicks his leg out when fart. If he just do what normal people do in an elevator just stand straight up and don't make noise then no one even know you did it. Just be subtle going about you business and you won't get so many calls against you.
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#262 » by Klomp » Tue Nov 7, 2023 4:47 pm

PeeDee wrote:Also let's not forget to lift up NAW. I believe the Wolves are undefeated when NAW volunteers for a technical free throw and misses. :wink:

:lol:
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#263 » by younggunsmn » Tue Nov 7, 2023 5:07 pm

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shrink wrote:If making unnecessary fouls is a bad basketball move, it’s a bad basketball move, regardless of your salary.

Read what I said. I think we give Naz a pass, and you are proving my point, justifying WHY you give him a pass.

Whatever salary we have the players signed for it's spent money and nothing is going to change. I hold every wolves player to the same standard. Play as well as you can and help us win games. :o


Its not spent money when its on the books for the next 4 years! Especially considering the raise he gets starting next year.

And of course it can change - by moving him.


KAT's supermax will likely cost us Conley and/or Slomo next summer and Naz Reid the year after, along with any money to spend to replace them. Whether or not that contract is money well spent is a VERY VERY important issue moving forward.

I never would have thought it coming into the year, but right now it very much looks like Gobert is a better fit for this team right now.
Naz is getting closer and closer to surpassing KAT with every game that goes by.
Luckily we still have 3 months until the trading deadline to let it play out.

KAT very much let his team down again, but this time they were able to pick him up.
Jim Pete had a good point about how all the "stray voltage" affects the rest of the team too.
Attitude and composure are contagious, in both a good and bad way.
None of the fouls KAT got were wrongly issued, and he probably could have been called for a couple more.
He should have been apologizing to his teammates not pulling the "why me?" routine again.
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#264 » by younggunsmn » Tue Nov 7, 2023 5:13 pm

Klomp wrote:
PeeDee wrote:Also let's not forget to lift up NAW. I believe the Wolves are undefeated when NAW volunteers for a technical free throw and misses. :wink:

:lol:


You laugh but that was completely boneheaded and selfish for a 2nd game in a row and cost us winning the game in regulation.
Where is Finch there? Can he not even make that decision for the players?
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#265 » by younggunsmn » Tue Nov 7, 2023 5:18 pm

The most interesting comment that came out of Finch's presser was about how defensively Gobert is playing our scheme this year, switching, chasing on the perimeter and everything, and fully embracing that

He made a comment about how last year we funneled everything to Gobert and didn't ask him to step away from the basket, and how that was not fun to watch.

This may be a key to the big leap our defense has taken this year.
We are much more versatile defensively and harder to gameplan against because we can switch up our coverages, something we rarely did last year.
We were straight up switching the pick and rolls they were putting Gobert in with the other defender veering back, and it was very effective because Tatum/Brown couldn't get to the rim effectively against Rudy, and this led to the Celtics going to a lot of ISO ball instead.

We need Gobert to stay healthy to keep this up though, his mobility looks so much better this year.
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#266 » by Klomp » Tue Nov 7, 2023 7:58 pm

younggunsmn wrote:KAT's supermax will likely cost us Conley and/or Slomo next summer and Naz Reid the year after, along with any money to spend to replace them. Whether or not that contract is money well spent is a VERY VERY important issue moving forward.

To be fair, that's conjecture, based on a franchise that has never really been worthy of going into the luxury tax, along with the fact that we have no clue what the spending habits of the new ownership group will be.
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#267 » by Klomp » Tue Nov 7, 2023 8:01 pm

younggunsmn wrote:
Klomp wrote:
PeeDee wrote:Also let's not forget to lift up NAW. I believe the Wolves are undefeated when NAW volunteers for a technical free throw and misses. :wink:

:lol:


You laugh but that was completely boneheaded and selfish for a 2nd game in a row and cost us winning the game in regulation.
Where is Finch there? Can he not even make that decision for the players?

That I can't answer because I'm not in the huddle or on the sideline. I don't know what the players and/or coaches are seeing or thinking.
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#268 » by Calinks » Tue Nov 7, 2023 10:54 pm

PeeDee wrote:Jaylen Brown giving the Wolves their due.


We are about to take the Lakers spots as Boston's most heated and hated rivals this decade. :nod:
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#269 » by KGdaBom » Tue Nov 7, 2023 11:15 pm

Calinks wrote:
PeeDee wrote:Jaylen Brown giving the Wolves their due.


We are about to take the Lakers spots as Boston's most heated and hated rivals this decade. :nod:

That would be so cool.
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#270 » by Biff Cooper » Wed Nov 8, 2023 3:38 pm

Big game tonight. Wolves of last season would be losing tonight after a big win two nights ago. Need to take care of business on a nightly basis with enough effort and maturity.
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#271 » by Shaka_Zulu » Wed Nov 8, 2023 4:29 pm

younggunsmn wrote:
Klomp wrote:
PeeDee wrote:Also let's not forget to lift up NAW. I believe the Wolves are undefeated when NAW volunteers for a technical free throw and misses. :wink:

:lol:


You laugh but that was completely boneheaded and selfish for a 2nd game in a row and cost us winning the game in regulation.
Where is Finch there? Can he not even make that decision for the players?




Its actually very confusing, why does a bad free throw taker take the technical fouls free throws for us? Like legit makes no sense.

Is it a running joke, a confidence thing they want to improve on for him, or he is awesome in practice at it then just sucks in game? because we just giving away free points. In a game already have Gobert shooting what must been his worst free throws shooting game in a long while, since they were doing a hack a shaq routine with him.
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#272 » by Klomp » Wed Nov 8, 2023 7:49 pm

Shaka_Zulu wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:
Klomp wrote: :lol:


You laugh but that was completely boneheaded and selfish for a 2nd game in a row and cost us winning the game in regulation.
Where is Finch there? Can he not even make that decision for the players?




Its actually very confusing, why does a bad free throw taker take the technical fouls free throws for us? Like legit makes no sense.

Is it a running joke, a confidence thing they want to improve on for him, or he is awesome in practice at it then just sucks in game? because we just giving away free points. In a game already have Gobert shooting what must been his worst free throws shooting game in a long while, since they were doing a hack a shaq routine with him.

I've honestly wondered if there's some sort of science around if shooting the free throw with no one around you affects the conversion rate, so they send over someone else who they can "sacrifice" percentage points for without destroying their confidence. I know it sounds really out there, but it has crossed my mind.
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#273 » by KGdaBom » Wed Nov 8, 2023 8:30 pm

Klomp wrote:
Shaka_Zulu wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:
You laugh but that was completely boneheaded and selfish for a 2nd game in a row and cost us winning the game in regulation.
Where is Finch there? Can he not even make that decision for the players?




Its actually very confusing, why does a bad free throw taker take the technical fouls free throws for us? Like legit makes no sense.

Is it a running joke, a confidence thing they want to improve on for him, or he is awesome in practice at it then just sucks in game? because we just giving away free points. In a game already have Gobert shooting what must been his worst free throws shooting game in a long while, since they were doing a hack a shaq routine with him.

I've honestly wondered if there's some sort of science around if shooting the free throw with no one around you affects the conversion rate, so they send over someone else who they can "sacrifice" percentage points for without destroying their confidence. I know it sounds really out there, but it has crossed my mind.

Who's our best FT shooter percentage wise? KAT or Conley perhaps? They should take the technicals when possible.
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#274 » by frankenwolf » Wed Nov 8, 2023 9:54 pm

KGdaBom wrote:Who's our best FT shooter percentage wise? KAT or Conley perhaps? They should take the technicals when possible.


Per NBA.com: JMac 2-2 100%, MC 2-2 100%, TBJ 4-4 100%, NAZ REID 13-14 92.9% and KAT 18-20 90%.

Ant is at 82.8. NAW is 0-4
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#275 » by KGdaBom » Wed Nov 8, 2023 11:16 pm

frankenwolf wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Who's our best FT shooter percentage wise? KAT or Conley perhaps? They should take the technicals when possible.


Per NBA.com: JMac 2-2 100%, MC 2-2 100%, TBJ 4-4 100%, NAZ REID 13-14 92.9% and KAT 18-20 90%.

Ant is at 82.8. NAW is 0-4

That's this year only and super small sample size for many. Naz has historically been bad, but that's an amazing start. Ant is also way improved so far. Seems like KAT should get the assignment whenever possible.
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Re: Game 6 Celtics and Timberwolves 11/6 7PM 

Post#276 » by younggunsmn » Thu Nov 9, 2023 12:04 am

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younggunsmn wrote:KAT's supermax will likely cost us Conley and/or Slomo next summer and Naz Reid the year after, along with any money to spend to replace them. Whether or not that contract is money well spent is a VERY VERY important issue moving forward.

To be fair, that's conjecture, based on a franchise that has never really been worthy of going into the luxury tax, along with the fact that we have no clue what the spending habits of the new ownership group will be.


Without dumping another contract, as things currently stand, bringing back Conley or Anderson will cost 4 to 5 times their salary in real world money when the luxury tax is taken into account.

That can get even worse because Ant meeting supermax criteria would cost another ~35 million in luxury tax and not getting a max cap bump would hurt too.
If you think Lore and ARod are willing to lose big money like Steve Ballmer, I admire the optimism, but I don't think that is a realistic outlook.

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