Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns?

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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#81 » by Madhouse » Tue Nov 7, 2023 5:39 pm

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I've always felt that Cade would be best in a Middleton role with some extra playmaking ability. A tertiary offensive option ideally, a secondary offensive option at best. Detroit has done a terrible job with roster construction but that doesn't completely absolve Cade or make it so we can't say he never would go #1 in a re-draft. He is pretty firmly a worse prospect at this point than Barnes and Mobley.



Barnes and Mobley have been in FAR better situations. It's an apples and oranges comparison.


Barnes' 'good situation' turned out to be a mess. It's still a team of misfits. Mobley, I agree. He can concentrate on his strengths.
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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#83 » by whitehops » Tue Nov 7, 2023 6:05 pm

cade definitely has to improve in some areas but the combination of coming back from surgery and having very little talent to play with has made it a rough comeback so far.

right now he's playing the majority of his minutes with players that are very underdeveloped offensively. it's not just a matter of shooting for spacing, but also guys that can't create their own offense. teams are happy to help off guys knowing that when they close out they aren't going to get punished. there's a reason alec burks' on/off numbers are off the charts, because this season he's been the only other reliable offensive option. teams are selling out to put bodies in front of him knowing the other guys can't make them pay for it.

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i'm going to wait until the pistons get their vets back (bojan, burks, monte morris) and see how cade plays in more functional lineups.
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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#84 » by breezypeezy » Tue Nov 7, 2023 6:07 pm

His efficiency has concerned me.
That said I think hes only scratched the surface for how good he can become.

Posters claiming he has trouble getting to his spots clearly have not seen Cade play beyond some clips, Cade can get anywhere at anytime on the court, that is not something he struggles at.

He will look improved greatly once Stew and Killian are not causing him to have to play 3 on 5 basketball.
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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#85 » by twolves31 » Tue Nov 7, 2023 6:30 pm

I haven't watch Cade play this season how is his defense? Kat for Cade and whatever pieces are needed on both sides at the deadline?
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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#86 » by vxmike » Tue Nov 7, 2023 6:34 pm

Maverick41 wrote:He's a very good player but not a #1 option type guy on a championship team. He's a good #2 or a great #3.


Agree. He’s also struggling because the team has no other offensive options so defense can swarm him. He’s also a 3rd year player who missed half his games so far….he’s very raw still.
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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#87 » by Saints14 » Tue Nov 7, 2023 6:40 pm

He's still plenty young but I think we're getting to the point in Cade's career where he's telling us who he is and we have to listen, and that is not an efficient engine of an offense. The limitations that his skeptics were worried about when he was drafted are still very much there
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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#88 » by sfernald » Tue Nov 7, 2023 8:02 pm

I gotta question for piston fans:

Ivey hasn't been getting much run. Detroit has so many good guards who seem to be playing better than him: Cade, Ausar, Hayes and even Sasser. Not much room for him really and Monty doesn't seem to like him much. Any chance you think they would be willing to part with him? Not for cheap mind you, but a good asset trade that would help your team's chances today?
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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#89 » by John Murdoch » Tue Nov 7, 2023 8:29 pm

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Post#90 » by Long2_noD » Tue Nov 7, 2023 8:52 pm

Unless he learns to draw fouls, this is who he will be. Rich man's Evan Turner.
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Post#91 » by Chanel Bomber » Tue Nov 7, 2023 10:35 pm

He reminds me a lot of Evan Turner but with a higher usage.

Talented, but he plays too slow and scores too inefficiently for the NBA.

His best role on a winning team will likely be as a bench player or a jack-of-all-trades 4th or 5th option.

If Detroit can get a top 10 pick for him, they have to trade him.

One thing for sure, you don't worry about who can fit with him or not. He should be irrelevant in the team building process. If anything, he should be expected to be able to fit around other players because that's what will be expected of him in a not-so-distant future.
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Post#92 » by vege » Tue Nov 7, 2023 11:31 pm

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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#93 » by BigGargamel » Tue Nov 7, 2023 11:32 pm

Pistons fans? Honestly, are you guys excited about anything? Several years into a lengthy rebuild with a ton of top five picks and I just don't see much to be happy about.
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Post#94 » by MrBigShot » Tue Nov 7, 2023 11:47 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:He reminds me a lot of Evan Turner but with a higher usage.

Talented, but he plays too slow and scores too inefficiently for the NBA.

His best role on a winning team will likely be as a bench player or a jack-of-all-trades 4th or 5th option.

If Detroit can get a top 10 pick for him, they have to trade him.

One thing for sure, you don't worry about who can fit with him or not. He should be irrelevant in the team building process. If anything, he should be expected to be able to fit around other players because that's what will be expected of him in a not-so-distant future.


He might not pan out but Cade is much, much more talented than Evan turner. You are vastly under selling him penciling him as a 4th or 5th option. When Cade is at his best he looks like a legitimate superstar, when Turner was at his best he looked like a fringe all star maybe.
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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#95 » by Chanel Bomber » Wed Nov 8, 2023 12:04 am

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Chanel Bomber wrote:He reminds me a lot of Evan Turner but with a higher usage.

Talented, but he plays too slow and scores too inefficiently for the NBA.

His best role on a winning team will likely be as a bench player or a jack-of-all-trades 4th or 5th option.

If Detroit can get a top 10 pick for him, they have to trade him.

One thing for sure, you don't worry about who can fit with him or not. He should be irrelevant in the team building process. If anything, he should be expected to be able to fit around other players because that's what will be expected of him in a not-so-distant future.


He might not pan out but Cade is much, much more talented than Evan turner. You are vastly under selling him penciling him as a 4th or 5th option. When Cade is at his best he looks like a legitimate superstar, when Turner was at his best he looked like a fringe all star maybe.

Turner was really talented as well.

Cade has a stronger ability to shot create and their profiles are slightly different but the main difference is opportunity.

The Sixers were trying to compete and win games during Turner's rookie season (they won 41 games and made the playoffs). They simply didn't give Turner the usage that Cade has been given. Detroit made Cade the focal point, which has enabled him to have these odd performances where everything clicks and he looks like a rising star on a night. But most NBA players can do that if given the green light for an extended period. What separates them is consistency.

I guess we will see. I just hope Detroit aren't wasting their time here. My suspicion is that Detroit won't win much with him as a featured guy, and then getting him to accept a lesser role will prove difficult (after putting him on a franchise pedestal), so he will eventually get traded and find his niche in a lesser role for a different team. Could be completely wrong though, but it has happened with a lot of guys.
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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#96 » by CptCrunch » Wed Nov 8, 2023 12:27 am

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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#97 » by Hussien Fatal » Wed Nov 8, 2023 1:19 am

Personally I think he’s terrible. He takes a ton of shots to get his 23ppg and he turns the ball over at an unacceptable rate. I think they should trade him for a lottery pick before he’s due for an extension.
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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#98 » by hardenASG13 » Wed Nov 8, 2023 1:41 am

BigGargamel wrote:Pistons fans? Honestly, are you guys excited about anything? Several years into a lengthy rebuild with a ton of top five picks and I just don't see much to be happy about.


I'm not a pistons fan, but have you seen Duren and especially Thompson play? They're both studs.
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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#99 » by zero rings » Wed Nov 8, 2023 2:28 am

I never liked him coming out of college, and he has looked pretty terrible so far in his NBA career. If I’m Detroit I’m trading him before his value is completely shot.
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Re: Cade Cunningham - Any Concerns? 

Post#100 » by Mr Peanut » Wed Nov 8, 2023 6:57 am

The GB never fails to amaze me with the dismissive nature of young players' careers. Cade has played just over a full season of games (84 in total). Guess we're living in the instant gratification era.

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