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OrlChamps2030 wrote:When is someone going to start the “Who Is Jalen Suggs” thread?
His 3 point shooting has been bad and he’s shown some questionable decision making with the ball in his hands. Only averaging 25 mpg right now. His defense is elite and he makes a lot of plays with his nonstop motor.
If his shooting never becomes average, how does he fit next to Paolo and Franz as a starter? He’d be great next to an alpha-scoring PG.. but is that who we think Anthony Black becomes?
pepe1991 wrote:If he continues like this, Maxey will be allstar. Maxes was drafted with pick we gave up to get Fultz.
It's funny how Maxey turned into execlly what Fultz was supposed to be.
Time will tell how our guards hold and can Black continue to shoot well. At least he is rotation now.
jezzerinho wrote:pepe1991 wrote:If he continues like this, Maxey will be allstar. Maxes was drafted with pick we gave up to get Fultz.
It's funny how Maxey turned into execlly what Fultz was supposed to be.
Time will tell how our guards hold and can Black continue to shoot well. At least he is rotation now.
We could have had Maxey with the Cole pick too. Ironically, you talked me out of wanting to draft Maxey right before the draft, with me having been pushing for him for a long time. You (rightfully) were concerned about his inconsistency, iirc. But it turned out not to have been an issue.
I also went off Cole late in the draft. Just some stuff that led me to think he might come in very entitled, which also turned out not to be an issue!
Conclusion, drafting is hard.
OrlChamps2030 wrote:When is someone going to start the “Who Is Jalen Suggs” thread?
His 3 point shooting has been bad and he’s shown some questionable decision making with the ball in his hands. Only averaging 25 mpg right now. His defense is elite and he makes a lot of plays with his nonstop motor.
If his shooting never becomes average, how does he fit next to Paolo and Franz as a starter? He’d be great next to an alpha-scoring PG.. but is that who we think Anthony Black becomes?
tiderulz wrote:jezzerinho wrote:pepe1991 wrote:If he continues like this, Maxey will be allstar. Maxes was drafted with pick we gave up to get Fultz.
It's funny how Maxey turned into execlly what Fultz was supposed to be.
Time will tell how our guards hold and can Black continue to shoot well. At least he is rotation now.
We could have had Maxey with the Cole pick too. Ironically, you talked me out of wanting to draft Maxey right before the draft, with me having been pushing for him for a long time. You (rightfully) were concerned about his inconsistency, iirc. But it turned out not to have been an issue.
I also went off Cole late in the draft. Just some stuff that led me to think he might come in very entitled, which also turned out not to be an issue!
Conclusion, drafting is hard.
i dont remember, it might have been you (and im not diving deep to find those threads) but i remember someone bringing up how many Kentucky guards have succeeded. I remember it being brought up again on the recent draft for Cason Wallace.
eyriq wrote:What is Cole's path to being our 3rd option on offense in the starting unit? He's undersized and gives up a lot defensively but he's shooting well, 43% from 3, and he's a bucket. I think he's playing himself back into the conversation at least.
OrlChamps2030 wrote:tiderulz wrote:jezzerinho wrote:
We could have had Maxey with the Cole pick too. Ironically, you talked me out of wanting to draft Maxey right before the draft, with me having been pushing for him for a long time. You (rightfully) were concerned about his inconsistency, iirc. But it turned out not to have been an issue.
I also went off Cole late in the draft. Just some stuff that led me to think he might come in very entitled, which also turned out not to be an issue!
Conclusion, drafting is hard.
i dont remember, it might have been you (and im not diving deep to find those threads) but i remember someone bringing up how many Kentucky guards have succeeded. I remember it being brought up again on the recent draft for Cason Wallace.
I mentioned it.. I’m sure others did too. It’s a trend that’s hard to ignore.
2022: Shaedon Sharpe
2020: Tyrese Maxey & Immanuel Quickley
2019: Tyler Herro
2018: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
2017: De’Aaron Fox & Malik Monk
2016: Jamal Murray
2015: Devin Booker
From what I’ve seen thus far, I expect Cason Wallace to continue the trend
Yeah, this resonates.Knightro wrote:eyriq wrote:What is Cole's path to being our 3rd option on offense in the starting unit? He's undersized and gives up a lot defensively but he's shooting well, 43% from 3, and he's a bucket. I think he's playing himself back into the conversation at least.
Sometimes it's better to just accept that a guy has found the perfect role for himself IMO.
Cole's not a good enough defender, passer or off ball player to be a starting point guard on a team with any sort of winning aspirations.
When he's in the game, the ball is in his hands or else he's pretty useless. He's an ideal 6th man. Come into the game, play the majority of your minutes against backup guards and backup bigs and just get buckets (and by extension assists too because you'll be on the ball so much).
tiderulz wrote:OrlChamps2030 wrote:tiderulz wrote:i dont remember, it might have been you (and im not diving deep to find those threads) but i remember someone bringing up how many Kentucky guards have succeeded. I remember it being brought up again on the recent draft for Cason Wallace.
I mentioned it.. I’m sure others did too. It’s a trend that’s hard to ignore.
2022: Shaedon Sharpe
2020: Tyrese Maxey & Immanuel Quickley
2019: Tyler Herro
2018: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
2017: De’Aaron Fox & Malik Monk
2016: Jamal Murray
2015: Devin Booker
From what I’ve seen thus far, I expect Cason Wallace to continue the trend
i dont think you can count Sharpe, he never played a game for Kentucky and was only with them a few months
Furinkazan wrote:what have you done to him?:D
https://www.basketballnetwork.net/latest-news/jason-williams-says-orlando-magic-are-the-worst-organization-in-nba?fbclid=IwAR2jOcU_d6xJDEwFBNl-KsvCRJEnnEi7LYHgKq-bBK8aO3DAPWwlFO-eot4
"You see the garbage truck driving around, right?" Williams said. "You see the juice that's dripping from the back? That's the Magic. The organization, not the team. The organization just got the wrong people running it, man. That's my opinion. What do I know? I'm just putting levels and tiers. I can only tell you what I know, right?"
Furinkazan wrote:what have you done to him?:D
https://www.basketballnetwork.net/latest-news/jason-williams-says-orlando-magic-are-the-worst-organization-in-nba?fbclid=IwAR2jOcU_d6xJDEwFBNl-KsvCRJEnnEi7LYHgKq-bBK8aO3DAPWwlFO-eot4
"You see the garbage truck driving around, right?" Williams said. "You see the juice that's dripping from the back? That's the Magic. The organization, not the team. The organization just got the wrong people running it, man. That's my opinion. What do I know? I'm just putting levels and tiers. I can only tell you what I know, right?"
Knightro wrote:eyriq wrote:What is Cole's path to being our 3rd option on offense in the starting unit? He's undersized and gives up a lot defensively but he's shooting well, 43% from 3, and he's a bucket. I think he's playing himself back into the conversation at least.
Sometimes it's better to just accept that a guy has found the perfect role for himself IMO.
Cole's not a good enough defender, passer or off ball player to be a starting point guard on a team with any sort of winning aspirations.
When he's in the game, the ball is in his hands or else he's pretty useless. He's an ideal 6th man. Come into the game, play the majority of your minutes against backup guards and backup bigs and just get buckets (and by extension assists too because you'll be on the ball so much).
Furinkazan wrote:what have you done to him?:D
https://www.basketballnetwork.net/latest-news/jason-williams-says-orlando-magic-are-the-worst-organization-in-nba?fbclid=IwAR2jOcU_d6xJDEwFBNl-KsvCRJEnnEi7LYHgKq-bBK8aO3DAPWwlFO-eot4
"You see the garbage truck driving around, right?" Williams said. "You see the juice that's dripping from the back? That's the Magic. The organization, not the team. The organization just got the wrong people running it, man. That's my opinion. What do I know? I'm just putting levels and tiers. I can only tell you what I know, right?"