GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST

[JDR720]

I ducked out after we got outscored 41-17 in the second quarter

So why the hell did Mark Williams only play 18 minutes? He's the only guy on the team with meaningful minutes that had a positive +/-

Gallinari was playing C and instead of attacking him on offense, we went small to guard him on defense. Nick only played 16 minutes too.

Another one of these games when Cliff reacts to what the other team is doing, not the other way around.

[Braggins]

They have to fire Clifford imo.

[Benjamin Linus]

I hear that if you lose back to back games to the Washington Wizards, Adam Silver will morph back into Pinhead and will tear your head coach's soul apart

[amcoolio]

I honestly can't believe we beat the Hawks and Pacers. They should be ashamed of themselves

[SWedd523]

Help us Oubre-Wan, you're our only hope.

[Braggins]

Borregos last season here he had basically the same core roster, but with a worse shooting wing (Miles) instead of Miller and no Mark Williams, and they averaged 38.2 3pt attempts and were 5th in the league in makes. This season they are at 28.2 3pt attempts and are ranked 30th in both attempts and makes. They were 18th in attempts and 27th in makes last season, although the roster wasn't really comparable.

[JustBuzzin]

They have to fire Clifford imo.

Honestly I rather wait it out.

At least we get a top 5 pick and a new HC in the offseason.


Future is bright we just have to tough it out this last year with Clifford.

[fatlever]

so who gets fired first, mitch or cliff?
it should be mitch. this trashfire is all his doing. nobody could win with this mess.

[SWedd523]

so who gets fired first, mitch or cliff?
it should be mitch. this trashfire is all his doing. nobody could win with this mess.

If ownership doesn't clean house from top to bottom at the end of the year then it says everything we need to hear about how they view the franchise.

Everyone in the FO needs to be shown the door and they need a complete managerial restart

[Liver_Pooty]

Just need to keep developing Miller Mark and Lamelo. My God that game was a travesty.

[KingCat]

Just need to keep developing Miller Mark and Lamelo. My God that game was a travesty.

Reaally the only reason to keep watching at the moment.

[fatlever]

so, we are definitely the worst team in the league. well done mitch! take a bow.

[Diop]

he talked ish smith out of retirement, that was his master move

[Rich4114]

What a surprise. All of the things we all complained about all summer are the reasons we can’t win games. Mitch insisted all summer that we are a good team. What moves did he make to help make sure we’d win this season? Resigned PJ? Good job. Now we’ll be unstoppable.

If you think this offense is bad, imagine what it would’ve been with Frank playing 20mpg?

Mitch has done a job worthy of being fired by January. Clifford is almost as guilty with these lineup and rotation choices.

Theo at SG? Ish mins? Thor playing more than Mark and Nick? Meanwhile the only scoring threat we have on the bench is NSJ and he won’t play because he’s a rookie not drafted top 4

[MPM]

“Preparation,” LaMelo Ball said. “I feel like we didn’t come out ready. I felt we should’ve won and we just didn’t come out ready.”

Subtle shot across the bow?

(of course, this presupposes LaMelo is capable of subtlety.)

[JMAC3]

Bench got outscored 23 pts to 72 pts. You can scream fire Clifford all you want, but what coaching change was he supposed to make last night to prevent that?

We were literally playing 1 real NBA rotation player off our bench last night.

JT Thor -21 in 21 mins
Theo -21 in 18 mins

Ish, Thor and McGowens played 46 mins combined and scored 2 pts.

[JMAC3]

Anyone is capable of scoring 20. The point you guys keep missing among others is Oubre shouldn't be one of your main scorers, unless you have an Embiid level player who can make up for Oubre when he doesn't score. Like in their last game, Oubre scored 3 and Embiid almost scored 50.

Oubre is the weirdest hill to die on.

McGowens can score 20? Theo can score 20? Richards can score 20? Thor can score 20?

Maybe combined LOL.

All of them, besides Thor, have scored at least 20 before. Maledon actually scored a career high 33 his rookie year to go along with several other 20+ point games.

You sound like a 2nd grader here.
Yay they combined for 18 pts, but hey lets just pretend them scoring is nightly possibility. GTFOH.

Meanwhile Oubre scored 20+ in 24/48 games last year. but let's pretend it is the same thing because those guys have done it 4 times combined their entire careers. lol

[Liver_Pooty]

Well, on a lighter note at least Lamelo appears to have gotten back in rhythm.

[Braggins]

so who gets fired first, mitch or cliff?
it should be mitch. this trashfire is all his doing. nobody could win with this mess.

Firing Mitch and then letting the new GM look for their coach makes sense.

Its so annoying that Ime Udoka, Nick Nurse, and Quinn Snyder, were all available in the last year and the front office was just like "nah, Clifford is the guy". Obviously Charlotte isn't a top destination for coaches, but Udoka went to Houston, which was a bigger dumpster fire than Charlotte last season, and Atlanta isn't considered a particularly good job either and they managed to get Quinn Snyder. Odds are they probably don't get one of those guys, but just rolling with Clifford had no upside and was obviously not going to work, and it doesn't appear that Charlotte even looked into the possibility of a coaching change.

It looks like everyone in the organization just hopes that things will get better and everyone will be happy once the most despised player in the NBA returns to the team from their suspension (will Miles be booed by the home crowd lol?).

[Rich4114]

Bench got outscored 23 pts to 72 pts. You can scream fire Clifford all you want, but what coaching change was he supposed to make last night to prevent that?

We were literally playing 1 real NBA rotation player off our bench last night.

JT Thor -21 in 21 mins
Theo -21 in 18 mins

Ish, Thor and McGowens played 46 mins combined and scored 2 pts.

We cannot move forward playing that many 3rd stringers together. Something has to give. Clifford will need to figure out how to stagger lineups better, he can't just take 3 starters out at once right now. LaMelo is going to have to play until the 3 min mark and before that maybe sub out Hayward or PJ for one of our bench turds then bring them back in when LaMelo sits. Just spit balling here, but we can't empty the bench right now, it's going to result in giving up 40 point quarters.