Fake Trade Thread #5

[Walt Cronkite]

Let this sink in.... 19 NBA teams have a minimum $20 million more dollars in contracts on their roster than Hornets.
12 have 40 more million in contracts on their roster than Hornets.

Obviously much easier to make deals when you have more options, assuming more of those options aren't playing.

Miles Bridges has a lot of responsibility here.
edit: Also, Lamelo's extension isn't figured in to this season, but then Haywood will be off the books, but they basically nullify each other, but yea, if you want to make an argument about our finances I think Miles past offseasons has been a bigger issue than letting Kelly Oubre walk.

[Diop]

if Hayward stays healthy, he should be very tradeable towards the deadline. he would be very intriguing to a competitive team

[Diop]

More depressing is that Indiana and Orlando pay less and are better.

Brogden injured his hammy today

[Rich4114]

.............. know I am about to get stoned for this, but trading for Brogdon would be a good move. Problem is we don't have any contracts to trade for him unless we give up one of our top guys. Would be nice to have another contract in the 10-15 range that we could deal... cough cough Oubre.

You won't get stoned by me, I'd love to get Brogdon on this team. It solves two problems in one, maybe three. He's exactly what we need in the backcourt, willing to come off the bench, has experience, is smart, good shooter, etc. Could something be worked out with Terry + prospect to get say Brogdon and another piece or two?

Trading Terry for Brogdon makes us slightly better, but our depth is still lacking. That is why having other tradeable contracts would be so valuable right now. Everyone that can help in a trade is in our top 7 guys.

Not to mention Portland would probably want picks to take on the longer money of Rozier.

That is an issue plus we can’t even really do much with future picks. I think we’d actually need to move someone like Hayward or Terry and take the talent hit to get two lesser rotational guys out of it.

[SWedd523]

Caruso, McDermott, Jerami Grant, Olynyk, Gary Harris are guys I'd target if they become available.

I feel like San Antonio could be a good trade partner for a guy like Gordo

[Rich4114]

Caruso, McDermott, Jerami Grant, Olynyk, Gary Harris are guys I'd target if they become available.

I feel like San Antonio could be a good trade partner for a guy like Gordo

We need to be searching for guys like the above or other quality rotational players who are stuck on the bench because their position is crowded. Depending on who it is, it may just take some seconds and a Bouknight. Gotta look at the tanking teams like the one we just played, Portland, Utah, etc.

[Liver_Pooty]

Caruso, McDermott, Jerami Grant, Olynyk, Gary Harris are guys I'd target if they become available.

I feel like San Antonio could be a good trade partner for a guy like Gordo

Lol I'd give my left but to get Grant. He's over there rotting in Portland just popping off games anywhere between 25 to almost 40 a game

[Diop]

Indiana a performing well and Hayward isn't injured. Small depth move for our crappy point guard rotation

Hayward for Hield and TJ McConnell?
Im not a big Hield fan, but he can shoot and is expiring. TJ is a veteran scrappy point guard off the bench.

Hield is good enough to be punted again later in the season for something.

I like Hayward but Im always holding my breath waiting for him to break

[Rich4114]

Indiana a performing well and Hayward isn't injured. Small depth move for our crappy point guard rotation

Hayward for Hield and TJ McConnell?
Im not a big Hield fan, but he can shoot and is expiring. TJ is a veteran scrappy point guard off the bench.

Hield is good enough to be punted again later in the season for something.

I like Hayward but Im always holding my breath waiting for him to break

Heild for Terry is a much better swap IMO, but the problem with Heild is he wants a bag. However, this improved our three point shooting issue.

[Diop]

Indiana a performing well and Hayward isn't injured. Small depth move for our crappy point guard rotation

Hayward for Hield and TJ McConnell?
Im not a big Hield fan, but he can shoot and is expiring. TJ is a veteran scrappy point guard off the bench.

Hield is good enough to be punted again later in the season for something.

I like Hayward but Im always holding my breath waiting for him to break

Heild for Terry is a much better swap IMO, but the problem with Heild is he wants a bag. However, this improved our three point shooting issue.

cant see them wanting terry, but who knows, im not wanting hield long term.

i wonder if indiana happy are happy to punt McConnell for bouknight and a 2nd

[Benjamin Linus]

How would you feel about bringing Devonte Graham back? I know his DWI would probably turn some people away but at this point we're already a meme so what difference would it make... and I don't think he's a bad locker room guy or anything

Ball, Terry and Graham played well off each other back when he was here. Probably could be had real cheap, like straight up for Bouknight or something

[MPM]

Rando idea after reading Herro may be out for extended time with Heat. Not sure I'm sold on it, but...

Terry + Bouk for Caleb Martin and Duncan Robinson. Basically, Terry for Caleb and Robinson. Oddly, Caleb is dealing with a knee issue now as well (twin voodoo) but appears to be on the mend.

Overloads us at the wings but brings in a consistent three point shooter with size, reunites wonder twins, and if Caleb can replicate his last season gives us more 3/D.

My guess is Heat wouldn't see the charm. Bouk gets them out of Robinson but not sure they'd see Terry as much of an upgrade over Caleb, who methinks they're high on.

Maybe.

[Rich4114]

Rando idea after reading Herro may be out for extended time with Heat. Not sure I'm sold on it, but...

Terry + Bouk for Caleb Martin and Duncan Robinson. Basically, Terry for Caleb and Robinson. Oddly, Caleb is dealing with a knee issue now as well (twin voodoo) but appears to be on the mend.

Overloads us at the wings but brings in a consistent three point shooter with size, reunites wonder twins, and if Caleb can replicate his last season gives us more 3/D.

My guess is Heat wouldn't see the charm. Bouk gets them out of Robinson but not sure they'd see Terry as much of an upgrade over Caleb, who methinks they're high on.

Maybe.

It's an interesting idea. I'm interested in 3pt shooting and defense, plus ball handling. This gives us all of the above. It's not that Terry doesn't offer those things, but he offers those things while dominating the ball and our offense shuts down when he does it so we're fully dependent on him being on with his shot.

[JMAC3]

We need more shooting, more defense, another playmaker.

Ball, Miller, Mark are untouchable. Very unlikely we trade Terry. He has two more years of salary after this year, which just limits the number of teams that are interested. Guys like Thor, Bouknight, Ish Smith just don't carry large enough cap hits to really get any meaningful deals done. Cody Martin has 1 more year of guaranteed money after this year, since 4th year is unguaranteed, given his injury status I think it would be tough to move him unless he is part of a larger deal where we are giving up draft capital ie: player a, Martin, first round pick for Player B. Nick Richards 5 million could be a nice toss in a deal, but we have no depth at Center so that limits are options. Miles Bridges is UFA, so the team acquiring him would really have to see him more as a rental at this point, so he probably isn't returning much in any deal.

IMO our number 1 trade asset is Gordon Hayward. Since he is expiring he has a lot of utility to the acquiring team, they could be dumping a contract for him, they could be viewing him as a 1 year rental for a title trip, Hornets could get aggressive and just use him as a large matching salary and attach multiple assets to him to upgrade a position for the long-term. Lastly, we could just flip him for 2 bench depth pieces that Hornets can see more long term use for.

I am not saying dump him for nothing, but chances we resign him are low IMO. We already gave LaMelo his money essentially, so letting Hayward walk doesn't open a 1 for 1 cap space hole. So chances are if we wait then he walks for nothing.

[JMAC3]

I think maybe a win-win trade could be Hornets trading Gordon Hayward for Gary Harris, Jonathan Issac.

Issac is only playing 12 mpg, but he offers a mobile big who can protect the paint and would be an upgrade over JT Thor. Gives us a small ball center option that Clifford has been talking about the last few weeks. He has 17 million next year that is unguaranteed, so this would be a way for him to showcase us if he is worth picking that up.

Gary Harris is currently banged up with groin injury, but he is playing 18 mpg and shooting 50% from 3 on 3.6 attempts per game. He has made 2 threes per game the prev two years and could give us a lot of what we are missing with Cody Martin. Harris is expiring, but if it works out Hornets could try to bring him back on a reasonable deal.

For Magic... Paolo and Franz could use another half court table setter. Hayward helps there and his shooting would also be an upgrade over Fultz, Suggs, Black. Orlando has cap space if they want to resign Hayward after this year.

Probably lowers our ceiling a bit, but I think it raises our floor getting some quality depth pieces.

[JMAC3]

Hornets depth chart after said deal.
LaMelo-?
Terry- Harris
Miles-Miller
PJ-Issac
Mark- Nick

[fatlever]

Isaac is a toxic nut job who is the least likely player in the league to stay healthy. I'm good passing on his upside.

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[JMAC3]

Isaac is a toxic nut job who is the least likely player in the league to stay healthy. I'm good passing on his upside.

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What makes him a nut job? I know he hasn't stayed healthy but it appears he is on the mend and he is only 26. When healthy he is a top 15 defender in the NBA. It is a risk for sure, but again good chance we let a 33 yr old Hayward walk in FA and get nothing back.

Gary Harris would be similar to when we traded for Courtney Lee.

[JustBuzzin]

Not sure we should make any major trades with Clifford as HC.

I'm more on the let Hayward expire see if we can trade Rozier for a expiring.

Then we go into the off-season with cap space for a vet piece who can help teach the young guys win. Someone like Paul George in FA would be nice.

[SWedd523]

No way you let Gordo expire. He's one of the better trade assets in the league. He has to be moved at the deadline