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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1801 » by p0peye » Wed Nov 8, 2023 9:14 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:If he continues like this, Maxey will be allstar. Maxes was drafted with pick we gave up to get Fultz.

It's funny how Maxey turned into execlly what Fultz was supposed to be.


Time will tell how our guards hold and can Black continue to shoot well. At least he is rotation now.


We could have had Maxey with the Cole pick too. Ironically, you talked me out of wanting to draft Maxey right before the draft, with me having been pushing for him for a long time. You (rightfully) were concerned about his inconsistency, iirc. But it turned out not to have been an issue.

I also went off Cole late in the draft. Just some stuff that led me to think he might come in very entitled, which also turned out not to be an issue!

Conclusion, drafting is hard.

i dont remember, it might have been you (and im not diving deep to find those threads) but i remember someone bringing up how many Kentucky guards have succeeded. I remember it being brought up again on the recent draft for Cason Wallace.


I was on that Cason Wallace wagon and there was people beside me who agreed on Kentucky guards as good bet.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1802 » by basketballRob » Wed Nov 8, 2023 9:38 pm

I still prefer Black over Wallace, and he was gone for our second pick.

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1803 » by tiderulz » Wed Nov 8, 2023 9:53 pm

basketballRob wrote:I still prefer Black over Wallace, and he was gone for our second pick.

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well, there would have been no reason to take Wallace with our 2nd pick after using the 1st on Black
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1804 » by OrlChamps2030 » Wed Nov 8, 2023 10:00 pm

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basketballRob wrote:I still prefer Black over Wallace, and he was gone for our second pick.

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well, there would have been no reason to take Wallace with our 2nd pick after using the 1st on Black

OKC trading up from 12 to 10 to take Wallace while we were at 11 does make you think though. I wonder if we were in talks to trade down with someone (who would have then taken Wallace).. or if we were going to take Wallace ourselves. Who knows
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1805 » by basketballRob » Wed Nov 8, 2023 10:03 pm

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basketballRob wrote:I still prefer Black over Wallace, and he was gone for our second pick.

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well, there would have been no reason to take Wallace with our 2nd pick after using the 1st on Black

OKC trading up from 12 to 10 to take Wallace while we were at 11 does make you think though. I wonder if we were in talks to trade down with someone (who would have then taken Wallace).. or if we were going to take Wallace ourselves. Who knows
Rumors were that we had a deal with Toronto for us to take Wallace and trade him to Toronto, for I assume Jett. So we weren't going to keep him.

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1806 » by RookieStar » Wed Nov 8, 2023 10:14 pm

p0peye wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:
We could have had Maxey with the Cole pick too. Ironically, you talked me out of wanting to draft Maxey right before the draft, with me having been pushing for him for a long time. You (rightfully) were concerned about his inconsistency, iirc. But it turned out not to have been an issue.

I also went off Cole late in the draft. Just some stuff that led me to think he might come in very entitled, which also turned out not to be an issue!

Conclusion, drafting is hard.

i dont remember, it might have been you (and im not diving deep to find those threads) but i remember someone bringing up how many Kentucky guards have succeeded. I remember it being brought up again on the recent draft for Cason Wallace.


I was on that Cason Wallace wagon and there was people beside me who agreed on Kentucky guards as good bet.


Problem with that is its a great hit or a spectacular miss. As much celebrated the Fox, SGA, etc of UK are once they get into the league, there were also terrible flops despite having better college careers like Hagans ,Tyty and etc are
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1807 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Nov 9, 2023 12:16 am

p0peye wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:
We could have had Maxey with the Cole pick too. Ironically, you talked me out of wanting to draft Maxey right before the draft, with me having been pushing for him for a long time. You (rightfully) were concerned about his inconsistency, iirc. But it turned out not to have been an issue.

I also went off Cole late in the draft. Just some stuff that led me to think he might come in very entitled, which also turned out not to be an issue!

Conclusion, drafting is hard.

i dont remember, it might have been you (and im not diving deep to find those threads) but i remember someone bringing up how many Kentucky guards have succeeded. I remember it being brought up again on the recent draft for Cason Wallace.


I was on that Cason Wallace wagon and there was people beside me who agreed on Kentucky guards as good bet.

Hello it’s me!!! Calipari’s offense is a system one so a lot of the guards have tons of skills but don’t get to show them.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1808 » by basketballRob » Thu Nov 9, 2023 2:47 am

So Isaac is probable, Harris is out, and Fultz is questionable for tomorrow night.

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1809 » by drsd » Thu Nov 9, 2023 7:24 am

pepe1991 wrote:My orginal season record prediction was 41-41 ( 40-40 with new schedule), i think we are right there, today i would probably took lower number, like 38-42 .


My 41-41 thought was based on "being healthy". So I think a roster without Carter is certainly more like a 38-42 roster.

And there is not 80 games in the season. There are simply two games not yet defined. Orlando will either play two more regular season games as the in-season tourney, OR play two games against non-tourney team. Either way: every team plays 82 regular season games (the championship tourney game makes an 83rd game for two teams).

I wonder if game-83 counts for tie-breakers for positioning in the post season. It is a regular season game statistically; I think.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1811 » by The-Stallion70 » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:31 pm

After watching Trae Young it has occurred to me that the Magic stil don't have the big star we need who can make us relevant by themselves.

Banchero is good but he's more of a number 2 on a good team. He's not super skilled he's kind of just bigger than most other guys. Franz is more like a number 3 on a good team.

We still need our Alpha, who knows how we get it we may never judging by our experience with Hennigan.
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Post#1812 » by eyriq » Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:02 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:After watching Trae Young it has occurred to me that the Magic stil don't have the big star we need who can make us relevant by themselves.

Banchero is good but he's more of a number 2 on a good team. He's not super skilled he's kind of just bigger than most other guys. Franz is more like a number 3 on a good team.

We still need our Alpha, who knows how we get it we may never judging by our experience with Hennigan.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1813 » by KillMonger » Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:44 am

eyriq wrote:
The-Stallion70 wrote:After watching Trae Young it has occurred to me that the Magic stil don't have the big star we need who can make us relevant by themselves.

Banchero is good but he's more of a number 2 on a good team. He's not super skilled he's kind of just bigger than most other guys. Franz is more like a number 3 on a good team.

We still need our Alpha, who knows how we get it we may never judging by our experience with Hennigan.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1814 » by pinoynurse » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:23 am

The-Stallion70 wrote:After watching Trae Young it has occurred to me that the Magic stil don't have the big star we need who can make us relevant by themselves.

Banchero is good but he's more of a number 2 on a good team. He's not super skilled he's kind of just bigger than most other guys. Franz is more like a number 3 on a good team.

We still need our Alpha, who knows how we get it we may never judging by our experience with Hennigan.



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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1815 » by drsd » Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:13 am

pinoynurse wrote:
The-Stallion70 wrote:After watching Trae Young it has occurred to me that the Magic stil don't have the big star we need who can make us relevant by themselves.

Banchero is good but he's more of a number 2 on a good team. He's not super skilled he's kind of just bigger than most other guys. Franz is more like a number 3 on a good team.

We still need our Alpha, who knows how we get it we may never judging by our experience with Hennigan.



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Yes Banchero is a SG in a PF's body. But that doesn't mean "he's kind of just bigger", it means that he is faster than all PFs that are defending him. Banchero has a legit chance to be his generation's "Karl Malone" or "Chris Webber".
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1816 » by eyriq » Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:13 pm

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1817 » by bigdogdylan5 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:14 am

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pinoynurse wrote:
The-Stallion70 wrote:After watching Trae Young it has occurred to me that the Magic stil don't have the big star we need who can make us relevant by themselves.

Banchero is good but he's more of a number 2 on a good team. He's not super skilled he's kind of just bigger than most other guys. Franz is more like a number 3 on a good team.

We still need our Alpha, who knows how we get it we may never judging by our experience with Hennigan.



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Yes Banchero is a SG in a PF's body. But that doesn't mean "he's kind of just bigger", it means that he is faster than all PFs that are defending him. Banchero has a legit chance to be his generation's "Karl Malone" or "Chris Webber".

The guy just turned 21 Christ I remember how dumb I was at 21 and this guy at 20 is leading an NBA team to victories. He is just scratching the surface year. His shooting I think will get better and better every year too.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1818 » by eyriq » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:26 am

This off-season we answer questions about Harris, Fultz, Ingles, and Isaac. The next off-season is the Franz and Jalen conversation, along with Moritz. Then the following comes Paolo and WCJ.

The contention window properly opens I think, 2027 season and beyond.

This will give Mosley and the front office three seasons to tinker and experiment their way into a build that can go deep into the playoffs.

I imagine we'll be looking to make the playoffs in 2025 & 2026. Then expectations will hit deep run territory in 2027.

2024 - play-in
2025 - win the play-in
2026 - Top 6
2027 - Top 4
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1819 » by Knightro » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:09 am

eyriq wrote:I imagine we'll be looking to make the playoffs in 2025 & 2026. Then expectations will hit deep run territory in 2027.

2024 - play-in
2025 - win the play-in
2026 - Top 6
2027 - Top 4


Respectfully, I think your timeline is too conservative.

The Magic probably should be in the outright playoffs *next* season given the fact they're going to have to spend a lot money this summer.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1820 » by eyriq » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:47 am

Knightro wrote:
eyriq wrote:I imagine we'll be looking to make the playoffs in 2025 & 2026. Then expectations will hit deep run territory in 2027.

2024 - play-in
2025 - win the play-in
2026 - Top 6
2027 - Top 4


Respectfully, I think your timeline is too conservative.

The Magic probably should be in the outright playoffs *next* season given the fact they're going to have to spend a lot money this summer.


I wouldn't mind that at all. I mean, we may be top six this season. I wonder what we're going to do this off-season. I can't imagine we do any three or four year deals at big dollar numbers. I would think it's going to be higher AAV at fewer seasons. What do you think we do this off-season?

Edit: and just for clarity, I'm not saying what I think we will do performance wise. I'm saying what the front office expectations will be in terms of evaluating the performance of the team. Like I can't imagine them being disappointed in us making the play-in this season and losing. Or in being a top 8 team next season. Or in being a top 6 team two seasons from now.

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