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76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#501 » by Embiid P » Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:32 pm

Tony Franciosa wrote:Smart just feels like one of those guys who torments us, but would fail stupendously once we'd acquire him. Pass.


Yup it's like any time the Eagles sign ex-Cowboys they never pan out for us. Moral of the story: never acquire anyone who played for your archrivals. It's bad juju.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#502 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:58 pm

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#503 » by FireMorey » Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:47 pm

Signing OG would be fine. Trading for him would be dumb. You don't empty your assets on a role player like him. A really really good role player, but a role player nonetheless.

The Sixers need to be careful they don't convince themselves too much that they don't need another star. Just because Harden didn't work out doesn't mean they should abandon the compiling stars approach and rely on just adding role players. We've seen how that story ends before too.

Still think they should keep their assets for a star level player and get the help with lesser picks or just with cap space.
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Post#504 » by youngcrev » Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:49 pm

Forgetting the future and what it would take to get each, who helps this team more right now:
DeMar Derozan or OG Anunobi?

I think it's kind of an interesting debate. OG would supercharge what we currently have as basically the leagues premier 3+D wing right now, but doesn't provide help in the teams biggest weaknesses of having a second on ball creator. DeRozan has the on ball creation and size to work well both with Maxey on the floor or as the primary ball handler when he's off, but is a poor defender and reluctant 3 point shooter. These guys are like polar opposites in terms of skill set. Do you still struggle with the lack of secondary ball handling and creation if it's OG? Does DeRozan take the ball out of Maxey's hands too much and hurt you too much elsewhere?
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Post#505 » by blargh » Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:55 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Jerami Grant completing The Process would be super cool.

Seems like a lifetime ago.
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Lol our new KJ is just a version of that old KJ. Bring in Grant and we can recreate the photo.
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Post#506 » by Kobblehead » Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:44 pm

youngcrev wrote:Forgetting the future and what it would take to get each, who helps this team more right now:
DeMar Derozan or OG Anunobi?


Personally, I think the need for another creator is overblown. If anything, having less cooks has DRAMATICALLY improved the functionality of this offense.

Derozan ultimately doesn't offer much. He can't shoot, he can't defend, and he comes up small in the playoffs.

OG is a god-tier fit.
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Post#507 » by Jailblazers7 » Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:58 pm

I’m ok with an OG trade as long as it’s roughly in line with what the Nuggets traded for Aaron Gordon. That trade was Gary Harris, RJ Hampton, & a 1st.

So our equivalent would probably be Springer, Morris, & a 1st. I doubt Masai would ever do that & maybe OG’s market value is higher but I kind of doubt it, especially with the new CBA where FRPs & the rookie contracts that come with them are even more valuable.
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Post#508 » by Sixerscan » Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:19 pm

OG has better shooting numbers that Gordon did, better defensive rep, can create a bit, he’ll cost more. Can’t give into crazy Masai demands but more than that is reasonable.
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Post#509 » by M2J » Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:49 pm

Gordon is a great dunker though
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Post#510 » by zaz102 » Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:29 pm

OG is a much better 3 point shooter though. But I doubt we could get OG at that AG rate
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Post#511 » by Stanford » Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:38 pm

Gordon's reputation was pretty low at the time as well. He spent a lot of time on a losing Magic team that tried to make him one of their top guys. It wasn't clear how much of an effect he would have on winning as a role player. OG's reputation as an excellent role player has already been established.
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Post#512 » by Arsenal » Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:49 pm

Yeah OG is gonna cost much more than Gordon did, and I don’t think he’s much better.
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Post#513 » by Jailblazers7 » Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:05 am

Arsenal wrote:Yeah OG is gonna cost much more than Gordon did, and I don’t think he’s much better.


This. I agree with all of you that OG’s market value is higher than Gordon’s was at the time. I just wouldn’t want to pay it that price.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#514 » by Embiid P » Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:54 am

Jailblazers7 wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Yeah OG is gonna cost much more than Gordon did, and I don’t think he’s much better.


This. I agree with all of you that OG’s market value is higher than Gordon’s was at the time. I just wouldn’t want to pay it that price.


Yup, plus Masai is going to want even more from us just because we are a division rival. I think there are cheaper (though probably less good) options available. If it has to be OG, just wait until the offseason to sign him as others have already suggested.
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Post#515 » by 76ciology » Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:27 am

Cant waste assets on a small trade because its likely the last big trade of the Embiid era.
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Post#516 » by Skates » Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:32 am

OG should not cost what the Raps will ask for. Only under team control for half a year before a team has to pay him. I want him, but Masai will get someone to massively overpay and it should not be us.
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Post#517 » by PhillyFan11 » Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:51 am

76ciology wrote:Cant waste assets on a small trade because its likely the last big trade of the Embiid era.


I don’t think trading 2/3 2nd’s for a guard to band-aid the rotation until something bigger happens is going to hurt anything. Obviously we are winning now so it’s not imperative, but that could change, or 1 injury could really tank things.
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Post#518 » by M2J » Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:27 am

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#519 » by 76ciology » Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:40 am

PhillyFan11 wrote:
76ciology wrote:Cant waste assets on a small trade because its likely the last big trade of the Embiid era.


I don’t think trading 2/3 2nd’s for a guard to band-aid the rotation until something bigger happens is going to hurt anything. Obviously we are winning now so it’s not imperative, but that could change, or 1 injury could really tank things.


I dont mind trading 2 second rounders for caruso. Just dont touch any of our first rounder and i’d be OK.

Melton is Maxey’s closest friend on the team BTW. Entire team like Melton and trusts that he can get his shot back. I dont think we’ll give up on him easily.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#520 » by 76ciology » Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:45 pm

Deflections:
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2023-2024: 19 (1st)
Roco: 4 (1st)
Melton: 3.9 (3rd)
Batum: 2.5
Oubre: 2.0
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