The Official Mike Conley Thread

FrenchMinnyFan · Post #121 » by **FrenchMinnyFan** » Thu Nov 9, 2023 7:25 am

It's cool to see Mike at this level and don't plaay too much right now. We will need him at money time when it matter where he can make a difference. Hope he can remain healthy like this for 2 more years.

Baseline81 · Post #122 » by **Baseline81** » Thu Nov 9, 2023 2:48 pm

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minimus · Post #123 » by **minimus** » Thu Nov 9, 2023 4:14 pm

One fact to understand importance of Mike Conley to this team: despite his ridiculous 30:1 AST:TO ratio, MIN is still on 22nd place of all 30 NBA teams in AST:TO ratio.

P.S. Combine this with fact that we are 23 in PACE this season

twolves31 · Post #124 » by **twolves31** » Thu Nov 9, 2023 4:42 pm

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"Is the nickname gonna stick" That's hilarious!

shrink · Post #125 » by **shrink** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:41 pm

Every morning, Mike gets his kids ready for school, then comes to work, and gets more kids ready for school.

Post #126 » by **Klomp** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:48 pm

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Saltine · Post #127 » by **Saltine** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:29 am

This is the third installment of Conley’s Corner.
Last of a dying breed — the true floor general

https://www.twincities.com/2023/11/11/conleys-corner-timberwolves-mike-conley-is-the-one-of-the-last-of-a-dying-breed-the-true-floor-general/

Post #128 » by **Klomp** » Thu Nov 30, 2023 9:33 pm

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shrink · Post #129 » by **shrink** » Sun Dec 3, 2023 6:52 pm

If I was Tim Connelly, I would ask Mike what he sees for his future after he retires as a player?

If he wants to stay close to the game, I think it would be a win-win to keep him in the organization, since he is such a great guy, he’s smart, he works hard, he has credibility with players and clear leadership skills. We know it’s important for him to not have to move his family again. I would intimate (and not put in writing), that if he takes a small contract for the next few years, he can be more involved in whatever he wants for his future, whether that’s coaching, or maybe something with less travel in the front office.

It feels like the organization is already trying to put the idea in Conley’s head that this is his home, especially when I hear Jim Peterson nickname him “Minnesota Mike.”

Colbinii · Post #130 » by **Colbinii** » Sun Dec 3, 2023 7:38 pm

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Yeah but he has missed a free throw. Inefficient Scrub.

Colbinii · Post #131 » by **Colbinii** » Sun Dec 3, 2023 7:39 pm

I'm guessing he resigns at 1+1 for about $15 Million AAV

FrenchMinnyFan · Post #132 » by **FrenchMinnyFan** » Mon Dec 4, 2023 1:13 am

Missing a FT is definitly not acceptable, should be trade on my opinion

shrink · Post #133 » by **shrink** » Tue Dec 5, 2023 5:31 pm

While it’s not common for most players, I think Mike Conley may be willing to re-sign with the Wolves at a discounted rate. Most players want as much money as they can get, and I don’t blame them with the brief time they can spend in the NBA. Conley though has played 16 years now, and has earned roughly $270 million dollars, so money (and the respect from money), might not be a driving force for him. When he was traded here, he said that he hoped this was his final NBA team. He moved his family to Minnesota and that seems like a big deal. He also seems very happy with his role on the team. He has said that he expected at his age to bring the ball up the court and stand in the corner, but Finch asked him to do it all, and it rejuvenated him.

I definitely hope Mike Conley is on this team next year. I am praying that he is willing to take a pay cut so we can afford him. I think that our chances require continued success on the floor, and a good playoff run.

winforlose · Post #134 » by **winforlose** » Tue Dec 5, 2023 5:43 pm

shrink wrote:While it’s not common for most players, I think Mike Conley may be willing to re-sign with the Wolves at a discounted rate. Most players want as much money as they can get, and I don’t blame them with the brief time they can spend in the NBA. Conley though has played 16 years now, and has earned roughly $270 million dollars, so money (and the respect from money), might not be a driving force for him. When he was traded here, he said that he hoped this was his final NBA team. He moved his family to Minnesota and that seems like a big deal. He also seems very happy with his role on the team. He has said that he expected at his age to bring the ball up the court and stand in the corner, but Finch asked him to do it all, and it rejuvenated him.

I definitely hope Mike Conley is on this team next year. I am praying that he is willing to take a pay cut so we can afford him. I think that our chances require continued success on the floor, and a good playoff run.

This plus 2 more things.

1. Mike would love to play championship basketball for multiple years before retiring. I don’t think he has ever been to the NBA finals, and I am not even sure about the conference finals. It would be great for him to win a ring (maybe even enough to take a discount to let us get him there.)

2. Offering two years guaranteed at decent money (not huge overpay the second year) will give him incentive to take a discount (as opposed to a higher 1 year,)

Post #135 » by **Klomp** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 2:00 am

shrink wrote:While it’s not common for most players, I think Mike Conley may be willing to re-sign with the Wolves at a discounted rate. Most players want as much money as they can get, and I don’t blame them with the brief time they can spend in the NBA. Conley though has played 16 years now, and has earned roughly $270 million dollars, so money (and the respect from money), might not be a driving force for him. When he was traded here, he said that he hoped this was his final NBA team. He moved his family to Minnesota and that seems like a big deal. He also seems very happy with his role on the team. He has said that he expected at his age to bring the ball up the court and stand in the corner, but Finch asked him to do it all, and it rejuvenated him.

I definitely hope Mike Conley is on this team next year. I am praying that he is willing to take a pay cut so we can afford him. I think that our chances require continued success on the floor, and a good playoff run.

This has definitely crossed my mind.

I think what's important is that he feels appreciated. For a lot of younger people, appreciation comes via money. But for Conley, I think he's felt appreciated simply by having a greater role (not being stuck in the corner) and a greater voice (locker room leader, trusted to call his own plays at times).

It was a different front office, but Beverley was extended during the season at the dollar amount he was making at the time ($13 million). Or if you want to look at Connelly's history, Paul Millsap followed up his 3 years/$90 million contract by signing a 1 year/$10 million deal.

Post #136 » by **Klomp** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:09 pm

A discussion around everything that Conley provides is why it’s so difficult for fans to find who they would like to target as the heir apparent. There just aren’t many (any?) guys who give you every single quality that Conley does. So the important thing for the franchise will be to determine what quality they can live without.

Post #137 » by **Domejandro** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:46 pm

Klomp wrote:
shrink wrote:While it’s not common for most players, I think Mike Conley may be willing to re-sign with the Wolves at a discounted rate. Most players want as much money as they can get, and I don’t blame them with the brief time they can spend in the NBA. Conley though has played 16 years now, and has earned roughly $270 million dollars, so money (and the respect from money), might not be a driving force for him. When he was traded here, he said that he hoped this was his final NBA team. He moved his family to Minnesota and that seems like a big deal. He also seems very happy with his role on the team. He has said that he expected at his age to bring the ball up the court and stand in the corner, but Finch asked him to do it all, and it rejuvenated him.

I definitely hope Mike Conley is on this team next year. I am praying that he is willing to take a pay cut so we can afford him. I think that our chances require continued success on the floor, and a good playoff run.

This has definitely crossed my mind.

I think what's important is that he feels appreciated. For a lot of younger people, appreciation comes via money. But for Conley, I think he's felt appreciated simply by having a greater role (not being stuck in the corner) and a greater voice (locker room leader, trusted to call his own plays at times).

It was a different front office, but Beverley was extended during the season at the dollar amount he was making at the time ($13 million). Or if you want to look at Connelly's history, Paul Millsap followed up his 3 years/$90 million contract by signing a 1 year/$10 million deal.

The strategy for getting the "home-town" rate for older players is the Player Option. I could see Mike Conley taking a 1+1 (PO) deal with the Minnesota Timberwolves as a mechanism to ensure that he is taken care of in case of injury or significant decline.

Ultimately though, it'll be up to the market. If some young team offers him a hefty $25 million (or something similar) to run their offense on a one year deal, that is definitely hard to walk away from. If teams only offer a few million more than what Minnesota can reasonably offer, then that is where the 1+1 (PO) deal comes in handy.

Post #138 » by **Klomp** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 1:04 am

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winforlose · Post #139 » by **winforlose** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 1:32 am

Domejandro wrote:
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shrink wrote:While it’s not common for most players, I think Mike Conley may be willing to re-sign with the Wolves at a discounted rate. Most players want as much money as they can get, and I don’t blame them with the brief time they can spend in the NBA. Conley though has played 16 years now, and has earned roughly $270 million dollars, so money (and the respect from money), might not be a driving force for him. When he was traded here, he said that he hoped this was his final NBA team. He moved his family to Minnesota and that seems like a big deal. He also seems very happy with his role on the team. He has said that he expected at his age to bring the ball up the court and stand in the corner, but Finch asked him to do it all, and it rejuvenated him.

I definitely hope Mike Conley is on this team next year. I am praying that he is willing to take a pay cut so we can afford him. I think that our chances require continued success on the floor, and a good playoff run.

This has definitely crossed my mind.

I think what's important is that he feels appreciated. For a lot of younger people, appreciation comes via money. But for Conley, I think he's felt appreciated simply by having a greater role (not being stuck in the corner) and a greater voice (locker room leader, trusted to call his own plays at times).

It was a different front office, but Beverley was extended during the season at the dollar amount he was making at the time ($13 million). Or if you want to look at Connelly's history, Paul Millsap followed up his 3 years/$90 million contract by signing a 1 year/$10 million deal.

The strategy for getting the "home-town" rate for older players is the Player Option. I could see Mike Conley taking a 1+1 (PO) deal with the Minnesota Timberwolves as a mechanism to ensure that he is taken care of in case of injury or significant decline.

Ultimately though, it'll be up to the market. If some young team offers him a hefty $25 million (or something similar) to run their offense on a one year deal, that is definitely hard to walk away from. If teams only offer a few million more than what Minnesota can reasonably offer, then that is where the 1+1 (PO) deal comes in handy.

Mike will want to play championship ball to end his career. The better we do the more likely he is to take a discount to stay.

shrink · Post #140 » by **shrink** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 3:43 pm

So I was trying to look a little deeper into Mike Conley’s contract, and noticed a few things.

[EDIT]

Second, he has that $1.5 mil unlikely bonus that Spotrac summarizes as :

“LTBE: $0, ULTBE: $1,500,000 (>-60% playoff games + finals)”

This apparently must just be poorly written and means that Mike only gets his bonus if the team plays in the finals. I’ve heard this rumored before, but couldn’t find confirmation until I noticed he had the same bonus last year. He played in 100% of our playoff games, and he did not receive the bonus.