The official Josh Minott thread

[shangrila]

I understand being skeptical about strong performances against the Israeli’s, but Garza dominated the Bulls starters. While it might still be dismissed as pre-season, I think this still demonstrates the quality of Garza and likely Minott too.

Garza is incredibly skilled. However, his game might not translate to the NBA so well. He could be the Crash Davis of basketball. I hope for better for him.

He's got a lot of parallels with Naz in terms of role.

Garza has become a sparkplug scorer off the bench. His defensive limitations will forever keep him from being a starter and he's not good enough offensively to build schemes around, but he's proving he can step in and give you points in bursts and that has value.

I can see him having a long NBA career but I doubt he's ever in one place for too long.

[KGdaBom]

I can never tell if you're actually this dense or just acting. Since I have nothing better to do right now though, I'll play along.

Your comment makes no sense as a follow up to mine. I didn't question their ability to play basketball, I stated that they aren't NBA calibre players...which they aren't. You can debate this if you want. You will be wrong.

In relation to our players, if they are actually NBA calibre then they need to be able to beat and realistically dominate their non-NBA counterparts. Because otherwise they aren't good enough to play in the NBA. All of the guys you mentioned did, so...good for them. But it doesn't mean anything. If they played and dominated college players it would be the same scenario. It's lesser competition so a better player should shine. Which is also why players that struggle, like Moore and Keels did, stand out more for all the wrong reasons.

I see one of two scenarios playing out here. Either;

1. You didn't get what I was saying which, given how obvious it was, makes me laugh all the harder at your reading comprehension dig.

OR

2. You're whiny because I didn't immediately start building the statues for our fringe rotation guys that had good games against a B-tier team from a league I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't (and possibly still don't) know exists.

Either way I no longer care. I really need to search inside myself to discover why I consistently bother engaging with you since it always turns out this way. You pick some strange hill to die on, I feel obligated to respond and afterwards I'm left wondering why I'm wasting time debating simple elements of comprehension with someone I'm never going to meet and who has not and never will provide anything meaningful to my life.

Anyways, hope that straightens this out.

I had zero problem with your comment about it being not so meaningful. I 100% got what you were saying and I agree with that comment. What you were saying was obvious. I wasn't arguing with you. Did you think I was? You assumed I was arguing with you I think.

I was simply making a comment about how good these basketball players are. I thought your reply to me was very rude so I took offense and replied rudely back to you. I could have handled it better.

I thought you were arguing with me. If possible I'd appreciate it if you spelled out that you were going off on a tangent, like "I agree with you but side note these guys are all absurdly good at basketball". It's difficult to read intentions off of comments on a screen.

However I did act rudely and I could have handled it better as well.

First of all thanks, People so often assume somebody is arguing with them. In the future I will clarify more. I am just amazed at how good these players are and wanted to give them props. I don't think it was a tangent.

[KGdaBom]

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What are you even talking about?

Context. KG is saying compared to Joe Schmoes on the street, they are incredible players, which is kinda true.

How is this context? His comment has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

It's the equivalent of me saying "it's kinda sunny out today" and him going "oh yeah? well the sky's blue!". Ok...cool, I guess? You are technically correct. But what's it got to do with anything?

It was just such a bizarre comment out of left field that I really didn't know how to respond to it.

Klomp more or less understood what I was saying. Except it's more than just compared to Joe Schmoes. I was commenting on how good these players are compared to the overall pool of competitive basketball players. It was not bizarre or out of left field. That was the context that was understood by Klomp and not by you.

[Klomp]

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An inconsequential game ops video, but a somewhat insightful answer for the franchise.

“Who would play you in a movie?”
Jaden McDaniels: “Josh Minott, because he wants to be like me.”

I’m liking the sound of that, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Minott is the eventual succession plan as a reserve forward in the next year or two. Another crazy high ceiling as a defender to throw in the mix.

[Klomp]

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[Klomp]

Random observation, h/t Theige and Moore:

Minott has played 20 minutes in a game 8 times since high school.
In Utah, the 2023 trade deadline game
Seven games in January 2022 at Memphis

[shrink]

I haven’t heard the latest Dane Moore pod, but in the past I’ve heard a couple times that he may be getting dissatisfied with the team, because he feels he is ready for a bigger role, and is being wasted. He said something about focusing on Finch’s defenses in the G-League last year, and that now he knows them all. The problem with being a young kid with lots of potential on a contender is a lack of opportunity. If Kyle Anderson comes back (though I doubt we can afford him), it might be necessary to trade Minott to a team where he will get a legitimate shot.

[Klomp]

I haven’t heard the latest Dane Moore pod, but in the past I’ve heard a couple times that he may be getting dissatisfied with the team, because he feels he is ready for a bigger role, and is being wasted. He said something about focusing on Finch’s defenses in the G-League last year, and that now he knows them all. The problem with being a young kid with lots of potential on a contender is a lack of opportunity. If Kyle Anderson comes back (though I doubt we can afford him), it might be necessary to trade Minott to a team where he will get a legitimate shot.

They joked that if we draft another developmental guy, Minott might be the first guy making the NBA minimum to request a trade...

[Neeva]

Too bad Finch didn’t play him much even in blowouts, to get a sense of what he could be. He’s now probably just gonna be a throw in in a bigger trade.

[wolves_89]

I think there is a decent chance that somebody gives Kyle Anderson an offer that is more than the Wolves can afford. In that case I expect there to be a real competition for those minutes between Minott, Miller, and possibly a rookie (Sheierman?). Summer league could get pretty interesting if guys know they are competing to be first in line for rotation minutes.

[younggunsmn]

His deal for next year is still unguaranteed until june 29th, and if he's back or not might depend on what we do in the draft.
If we keep and use both picks, I have to think we cut him.

May just cut him to sign a veteran min FA regardless.
You can only have so many not-ready-for-prime-time players on your roster.
We have Miller plus Moore who is unfortunately on a guaranteed contract next year, plus 2 potential draft picks.

You add Minott and that's potentially 5 guys you are afraid to give minutes to on a roster almost assuredly to carry only 14 full contracts.

[Klomp]

His deal for next year is still unguaranteed until june 29th, and if he's back or not might depend on what we do in the draft.
If we keep and use both picks, I have to think we cut him.

May just cut him to sign a veteran min FA regardless.
You can only have so many not-ready-for-prime-time players on your roster.
We have Miller plus Moore who is unfortunately on a guaranteed contract next year, plus 2 potential draft picks.

You add Minott and that's potentially 5 guys you are afraid to give minutes to on a roster almost assuredly to carry only 14 full contracts.

Boston had 7 such players btw, and they just won a title

[KATKlownFeet]

His deal for next year is still unguaranteed until june 29th, and if he's back or not might depend on what we do in the draft.
If we keep and use both picks, I have to think we cut him.

May just cut him to sign a veteran min FA regardless.
You can only have so many not-ready-for-prime-time players on your roster.
We have Miller plus Moore who is unfortunately on a guaranteed contract next year, plus 2 potential draft picks.

You add Minott and that's potentially 5 guys you are afraid to give minutes to on a roster almost assuredly to carry only 14 full contracts.

Why is Moore on a guaranteed contract? I never understood the logic in extending Moore last fall. TC should have just admitted he made a mistake drafting Moore and moved on. But now can't we simply cut him? I don't want him taking up a roster spot.

[Neeva]

Moore’s is his only first round pick on the roster and it was a real stinker. Connelly needs to make up for that mistake with 27.

[Guest84]

I'm curious to see how practices go. Does he ever match up with Jaden? If so, how does it typically play out? He seems a bit more aggressive on offense while Jaden is more aggressive on defense.

When I watch him, it's hard for me to believe in him cause his game just doesn't pop out to me. Maybe cause I prefer a playstyle of a PG13. I was watching a highlight video and was just wondering...

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[shrink]

Tomorrow (June 28) the club decides whether to pick up Minott’s $2,187,451 non-guaranteed option.

[Klomp]

Tomorrow (June 28) the club decides whether to pick up Minott’s $2,187,451 non-guaranteed option.

I think I would expect them to pick it up.

I'm not sure you'll see us signing 4ish veteran minimums, whether our own guys (Anderson, Morris, McLaughlin) or outsiders. The potential is still there. No he probably won't be a star or maybe not even a starter on this team, but we also don't know his fully-realized upside which limits his trade value. Don't throw away potential assets if there's no need too. You don't save money by swapping him out for a veteran, in fact you actually would be adding money.

[Klomp]

Tomorrow (June 28) the club decides whether to pick up Minott’s $2,187,451 non-guaranteed option.

I think I would expect them to pick it up.

I'm not sure you'll see us signing 4ish veteran minimums, whether our own guys (Anderson, Morris, McLaughlin) or outsiders. The potential is still there. No he probably won't be a star or maybe not even a starter on this team, but we also don't know his fully-realized upside which limits his trade value. Don't throw away potential assets if there's no need too. You don't save money by swapping him out for a veteran, in fact you actually would be adding money.

If you look for them to "get off of him", I'd think the more likely plan would be to see him traded for a draft pick today. That would save another $900K from Minott's deal or possibly replacing Minott with a veteran by signing a rookie minimum.

[wolves_89]

Tomorrow (June 28) the club decides whether to pick up Minott’s $2,187,451 non-guaranteed option.

I'd be shocked if the option wasn't picked up. I think there's a real chance that Minott gets rotation minutes next season.

[minimus]

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I wonder how much having a dynamic scorer and passer Rob will affect Minott game. That unit with McLaughlin/NAW, Moore, Miller and Minott just could not score. The only reliable option has been Garza, but they really can benefit from having a ballhandler who can score.