PG: KNICKS 'Sting' The Hornets

stuporman · Post #181 » by **stuporman** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:19 am

Knick4Real wrote:KNICKS STING THE HORNETS!!!

That's smoking the bees and not sting the hornets... of course now we hope the Knicks smoke the Cs.

blueNorange · Post #182 » by **blueNorange** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:21 am

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

ehh that’s not how it works

young can shoot off balance, rj needs to be set and have everything go right

Kidknick! · Post #183 » by **Kidknick!** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:22 am

Don't be dumb and start Quickley over Grimes. He's a major part of why the bench unit has been exceptionally potent. Grimes can still play D. And that's something that's needed on the starting unit.

The points for the team and IQ will be there. Let him crush the backups.

DaGawd · Post #184 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:33 am

Capn'O wrote:
DaGawd wrote:some intel on rj leap from the raps board

HumbleRen wrote:
RJ and Dillon Brooks both credited the NOAH board during their stay in Toronto.

Both have been lights out since August lol, shame it doesn’t help our own Raptors players.

Who or what is NOAH? Dort has been good too.

https://www.noahbasketball.com
looks like a dedicated basketball program to fixing shooting

jvsimonetti0514 · Post #185 » by **jvsimonetti0514** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:36 am

dakomish23 wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

There was a Trae trade thread on the TNT board where I brought up Trae’s wack career numbers, and I was going to post this in the around the NBA thread. Their FG% is almost identical too.

One considered a great shooter.

One considered one of the worst shooters.

Perception is everything to so many fans

In Trae’s defense, he does take way more difficult 3’s than RJ but this is why TS% can be a little deceptive. It really protects these foul merchants. I wonder how long he needs to shoot like this to finally stop getting star calls? He’s shooting 10 free throws a game! That’s just insane.

Kinda interesting that both him and a lesser extent LaMelo were held in such high regard a few seasons ago and they’ve pretty much lost the entire standings in nba circles.

aggo · Post #186 » by **aggo** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:37 am

Oscirus wrote:Im all for posting cool stats, but this is insanely specific

Read on Twitter

rj is only 20

aggo · Post #187 » by **aggo** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:39 am

dakomish23 wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

There was a Trae trade thread on the TNT board where I brought up Trae’s wack career numbers, and I was going to post this in the around the NBA thread. Their FG% is almost identical too.

One considered a great shooter.

One considered one of the worst shooters.

Perception is everything to so many fans

what would RJs 3pt% be if he shot all of Trae's 3s

and what would Trae's 3pt% be if he shot all of rjs threes?

lets be real

HumbleRen · Post #188 » by **HumbleRen** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:40 am

DaGawd wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
DaGawd wrote:some intel on rj leap from the raps board

Who or what is NOAH? Dort has been good too.

https://www.noahbasketball.com
looks like a dedicated basketball program to fixing shooting

Pretty much yeah. It’s a board that tells you the optimal shooting arc for your form and lets you know if you’re off balance or shooting too low.

jvsimonetti0514 · Post #189 » by **jvsimonetti0514** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:42 am

blueNorange wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

ehh that’s not how it works

young can shoot off balance, rj needs to be set and have everything go right

I’m glad no one has told Trae to take better shots yet. :lol:

Cuz what good having this kind of shooting talent if the results are so poor?

aggo · Post #190 » by **aggo** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:46 am

HumbleRen wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Who or what is NOAH? Dort has been good too.

https://www.noahbasketball.com
looks like a dedicated basketball program to fixing shooting

Pretty much yeah. It’s a board that tells you the optimal shooting arc for your form and lets you know if you’re off balance or shooting too low.

I thought we already had this tracking for the players.

I distinctly remember reading a story about it a few years ago that we installed the cameras and had it for the players

KnicksGadfly · Post #191 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:03 am

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
blueNorange wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

ehh that’s not how it works

young can shoot off balance, rj needs to be set and have everything go right

I’m glad no one has told Trae to take better shots yet. Cuz what good having this kind of shooting talent if the results are so poor?

There's something to your point there. Also, he's not really good at playing off-ball, and that's where you get a lot of those easy threes that he should be hunting.

Post #192 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:06 am

aggo wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
DaGawd wrote:https://www.noahbasketball.com
looks like a dedicated basketball program to fixing shooting

Pretty much yeah. It’s a board that tells you the optimal shooting arc for your form and lets you know if you’re off balance or shooting too low.

I thought we already had this tracking for the players.

I distinctly remember reading a story about it a few years ago that we installed the cameras and had it for the players

Maybe ours wasn't any good?

HumbleRen · Post #193 » by **HumbleRen** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:14 am

aggo wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
DaGawd wrote:https://www.noahbasketball.com
looks like a dedicated basketball program to fixing shooting

Pretty much yeah. It’s a board that tells you the optimal shooting arc for your form and lets you know if you’re off balance or shooting too low.

I thought we already had this tracking for the players.

I distinctly remember reading a story about it a few years ago that we installed the cameras and had it for the players

Lots of teams have it. Guess they didn't have it in Memphis since Dillon was gushing about it lol.

Meat · Post #194 » by **Meat** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:15 am

HopelessKnick wrote:
NYKnickerbocker wrote:Never thought there would be a point in their careers where RJ would be more efficient than Zion lol. Hopefully he can keep it up

Zion seems alarmingly disinterested in basketball. Is it because he is stuck in NO? It's not even that he has had freak type of injuries...most his injuries seem like a result of not being interested to prepare and keep in shape. I really hope he picks it up. Such an enourmous physical talent.

Revenge bodies are famously a thing,

Post #195 » by **dakomish23** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:20 am

aggo wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

There was a Trae trade thread on the TNT board where I brought up Trae’s wack career numbers, and I was going to post this in the around the NBA thread. Their FG% is almost identical too.

One considered a great shooter.

One considered one of the worst shooters.

Perception is everything to so many fans

what would RJs 3pt% be if he shot all of Trae's 3s

and what would Trae's 3pt% be if he shot all of rjs threes?

lets be real

What would RJ’s shooting % be if he took better shots in the flow of the offense his whole career instead of forcing the issue?

You can play hypothetical and keep going. Trae has the ball in his hands chooses bad FGA. Should I not count it when RJ did the same??

jvsimonetti0514 · Post #196 » by **jvsimonetti0514** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:21 am

KnicksGadfly wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
blueNorange wrote:ehh that’s not how it works

young can shoot off balance, rj needs to be set and have everything go right

I’m glad no one has told Trae to take better shots yet. Cuz what good having this kind of shooting talent if the results are so poor?

There's something to your point there. Also, he's not really good at playing off-ball, and that's where you get a lot of those easy threes that he should be hunting.

I've always kinda thought Trae's jumper was overrated and his passing was his best skill. Trae does have higher usage than Brunson but it's close enough to be comparable. How often does Brunson take a crazy long three? If he's shooting any pull ups it's immediately after coming around the screen. So it is possible for someone that's on ball a lot to take better 3's.

RHODEY · Post #197 » by **RHODEY** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:28 am

KnixtapeH20 wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
NYKnickerbocker wrote:Maxey put 50 on Halliburton’s head

perhaps but 25 and 17 are insane numbers

facts but Maxey scores 50, Embiid 37 n they still barely win? they will NEVER win a championship

Pacers put up a ton of points this season...they are no joke.

bronxknicksfan1 · Post #198 » by **bronxknicksfan1** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:50 am

RHODEY wrote:
KnixtapeH20 wrote:
Oscirus wrote:perhaps but 25 and 17 are insane numbers

facts but Maxey scores 50, Embiid 37 n they still barely win? they will NEVER win a championship

Pacers put up a ton of points this season...they are no joke.

And Philly’s starting SF was hit by a car yesterday. They adjusted pretty well all things considered.

They look a lot better this year with Maxey playing freely.

Clyde_Style · Post #199 » by **Clyde_Style** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:06 am

bronxknicksfan1 wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
KnixtapeH20 wrote:facts but Maxey scores 50, Embiid 37 n they still barely win? they will NEVER win a championship

Pacers put up a ton of points this season...they are no joke.

And Philly’s starting SF was hit by a car yesterday. They adjusted pretty well all things considered.

They look a lot better this year with Maxey playing freely.

Either Maxey or IQ are better for a team than Harden. We've got our own Maxey. We never needed that guy.

HarthorneWingo · Post #200 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:17 am

Kidknick! wrote:Don't be dumb and start Quickley over Grimes. He's a major part of why the bench unit has been exceptionally potent. Grimes can still play D. And that's something that's needed on the starting unit.

The points for the team and IQ will be there. Let him crush the backups.

Also, Grimes doesn’t need the ball to fit with the starting unit. Thibs has this part right.