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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#421 » by SelbyCobra » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:07 pm

sol537 wrote:if NOP call Leon and ask for Randle + IQ for Zion straight up... what do you say?


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Post#422 » by Oscirus » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:22 pm

nows the time to strike? hmmmmmm

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Post#423 » by HopelessKnick » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:26 pm

Oscirus wrote:nows the time to strike? hmmmmmm

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I don't get that notion. Minnesota is off to the best start in decades and Towns has been playing much better. Why is it that Minny would be looking to trade him away or even dump him? Anyone care to explain?
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Post#424 » by dukeknicksirish » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:33 pm

Oscirus wrote:nows the time to strike? hmmmmmm

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Better not be to get KAT hahaha keep him away from NY
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#425 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:36 pm

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Oscirus wrote:nows the time to strike? hmmmmmm

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I don't get that notion. Minnesota is off to the best start in decades and Towns has been playing much better. Why is it that Minny would be looking to trade him away or even dump him? Anyone care to explain?


The money would probably be the reason, next year the extensions on KAT, Ant and McDaniels all kick in.

They're going to have around $166 million tied up in Kat, Ant, Rudy, Naz and Jaden next year while Conley and Slowmo are going to be free agents in the summer.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#426 » by K_ick_God » Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:10 pm

Interesting thought experiment on whether Randle, IQ and a pick or two for Zion is a trade the Knicks should make. Not to say Pels take it.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#427 » by sol537 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:29 pm

KnicksGod wrote:Interesting thought experiment on whether Randle, IQ and a pick or two for Zion is a trade the Knicks should make. Not to say Pels take it.


It looks like a Zion & Pels split is inevitable... probably within the next 8 -20 months, I'd wager.

Randle, IQ, rights to Rokas, and several picks for Zion + Herb Jones is a deal that could be win-win.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#428 » by KNICKS007 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:01 pm

sol537 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Interesting thought experiment on whether Randle, IQ and a pick or two for Zion is a trade the Knicks should make. Not to say Pels take it.


It looks like a Zion & Pels split is inevitable... probably within the next 8 -20 months, I'd wager.

Randle, IQ, rights to Rokas, and several picks for Zion + Herb Jones is a deal that could be win-win.


So Zions production is equal to Randle and IQ.. In fact Randle is having a better season, and if IQ was starter he would be too.

So how is this a win win, and don't forget Zions absolute injury concerns and the fact that's he's done nothing special for NO..
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#429 » by Iron Mantis » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:11 pm

KNICKS007 wrote:
sol537 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Interesting thought experiment on whether Randle, IQ and a pick or two for Zion is a trade the Knicks should make. Not to say Pels take it.


It looks like a Zion & Pels split is inevitable... probably within the next 8 -20 months, I'd wager.

Randle, IQ, rights to Rokas, and several picks for Zion + Herb Jones is a deal that could be win-win.


So Zions production is equal to Randle and IQ.. In fact Randle is having a better season, and if IQ was starter he would be too.

So how is this a win win, and don't forget Zions absolute injury concerns and the fact that's he's done nothing special for NO..

Zion is dogging it right now. He is a superstar talent.

Although yes, the injury biz is a risk.

....a risk you have to take if he's made available.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#430 » by robillionaire » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:14 pm

KNICKS007 wrote:
sol537 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Interesting thought experiment on whether Randle, IQ and a pick or two for Zion is a trade the Knicks should make. Not to say Pels take it.


It looks like a Zion & Pels split is inevitable... probably within the next 8 -20 months, I'd wager.

Randle, IQ, rights to Rokas, and several picks for Zion + Herb Jones is a deal that could be win-win.


So Zions production is equal to Randle and IQ.. In fact Randle is having a better season, and if IQ was starter he would be too.

So how is this a win win, and don't forget Zions absolute injury concerns and the fact that's he's done nothing special for NO..


IQ is having a better season even without starting his ts% is higher and his PER is higher and his BPM is +5.7 and zions is -0.4 and all his stats are better
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KAT at power forward. Just realized. This probably belongs in the trade thread. I can try to move it 

Post#431 » by Nicnac » Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:06 am

It could be like the debuchere (spelling) trade that made the Knicks championship

It keep our center tandem. Kat loves playing outside. Let him shoot 3s at power foward

If they would take Randle and I would hate it but IQ and picks

Defensive anchor at center in place who is perfect for this team

KAT at Pf. outside shooter to replace IQ

Rj. SF

BRUNSON AND VINNY starting guards

We will be much more competitive. This lineup covers some of KATS defensive weaknesses

Our center tandem remains a strength

KAT should not play center for anyone. He is playing the wrong position
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Re: KAT at power forward. Just realized. This probably belongs in the trade thread. I can try to move it 

Post#432 » by Esq-4 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:34 am

Nicnac wrote:It could be like the debuchere (spelling) trade that made the Knicks championship

It keep our center tandem. Kat loves playing outside. Let him shoot 3s at power foward

If they would take Randle and I would hate it but IQ and picks

Defensive anchor at center in place who is perfect for this team

KAT at Pf. outside shooter to replace IQ

Rj. SF

BRUNSON AND VINNY starting guards

We will be much more competitive. This lineup covers some of KATS defensive weaknesses

Our center tandem remains a strength

KAT should not play center for anyone. He is playing the wrong position


Isn't one of the supposed issues KAT should be playing center but cannot because of Rudy?
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#433 » by SelbyCobra » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:47 am

If you believe in RJ's first 6 games, just go for elite offense/no defense and acquire KAT & Zion while moving Randle/Mitchell++++.

Brunson
Grimes
Barrett
Zion
Kat

Hell, if we go full-Besart, we can replace Grimes with Mitchell, too.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#434 » by KnixinSix » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:20 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:If you believe in RJ's first 6 games, just go for elite offense/no defense and acquire KAT & Zion while moving Randle/Mitchell++++.

Brunson
Grimes
Barrett
Zion
Kat

Hell, if we go full-Besart, we can replace Grimes with Mitchell, too.


Gotta keep Mitch if you go KAT , he is the perfect counterbalance for his lack of D. Some think Minny is desperate to unload the contract with the looming CBA so he may cost less than we think.

Zion for Randle is much easier to do now that it looks like RJ has a legit and more consistent jumper.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#435 » by KnixinSix » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:23 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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Oscirus wrote:nows the time to strike? hmmmmmm

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I don't get that notion. Minnesota is off to the best start in decades and Towns has been playing much better. Why is it that Minny would be looking to trade him away or even dump him? Anyone care to explain?


The money would probably be the reason, next year the extensions on KAT, Ant and McDaniels all kick in.

They're going to have around $166 million tied up in Kat, Ant, Rudy, Naz and Jaden next year while Conley and Slowmo are going to be free agents in the summer.


The CBA changes caponomics drastically. People aren't realizing just how much an effect it will have. Then take a look at KATs contract. Its an absolute monster. 60+M for a few years. Its one thing, if you have a bunch of sub 30M dollar players on your roster like us (where you can absorb it better) but they have Edwards and Goebert making big bag money too.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#436 » by aggo » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:59 pm

I don't want kat anymore. forget the contract. I dont know what his position is anymore and he hasn't had an all-star type year in a long time

plus they are winning rn, so I dont think they would have any interest in changing the chemistry


go get lavine or Zion


I wouldn't even mind demar derozan.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#437 » by Snacks » Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:08 pm

aggo wrote:I don't want kat anymore. forget the contract. I dont know what his position is anymore and he hasn't had an all-star type year in a long time

plus they are winning rn, so I dont think they would have any interest in changing the chemistry


go get lavine or spida


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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#438 » by SelbyCobra » Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:34 pm

aggo wrote:I don't want kat anymore. forget the contract. I dont know what his position is anymore and he hasn't had an all-star type year in a long time


I respect the overall opinion, but he was playing in the literal All-Star Game, and winning the 3P contest, like 20 months ago. :lol:
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#439 » by dakomish23 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:14 pm

sol537 wrote:if NOP call Leon and ask for Randle + IQ for Zion straight up... what do you say?


If they offered that, Leon would drive Randle to the airport himself :lol:
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor


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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#440 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:17 pm

Grimes/Foreskinier/DropTheLawsuit and 2 FRPs for OG

Caucasian swap of iShart ( and 4 million in filler) + 1 FRP for Olynyk.

Knicks still with 3 FRPs to deal for some so called star, if they ever materialize for them, which one won't.

Knicks get a stretch 5
Knicks get a true sized 3 also capable of playing the 4
Olynyk can play 5 and 4, so trading two players who only play one position (Grimes is only a 2, iShart only a 5) gives the Knicks way more lineup flexibility.

If you want to go full Buzzart, trade resigned IQ and something plus those picks for DMitch this offseason.
Maybe the Knicks bring over Jockitchbitus

For this season:

Brunson/IQ
RJ/DDV
OG/Hart
Randle/OG
Mitch/Olynyk

But, can feature lineups like:

Brunson
IQ
RJ
OG
Olynyk

and lots of other variations, like

Brunson
RJ
OG
Randle
Olynky

or even:

Brunson
IQ
RJ
Olynyk
Mitch

And so on

Sure, it only turns them into a bonafide 5th seed, but I'd say do it. It rationalizes the roster and spaces the floor for Brunson or RJ or Randle or even IQ.


The presence of OG and Olynyk, plus whatever fetishizing Thibs does over RJ and Hart as backup 4s means the Knicks could legitimately think of trading Randle if it came down to that.

As it stands, right now, as seen in yesterday's game, if RJ gets hurt ,the Knicks have zero good backup PF options that any sane person would be comfortable with at anything over 8-10 mpg.

And if Randle goes down, I'm not exactly looking forward to an RJ/Hart PF duo for 10-20 games either.
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