Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6

[LoveMyRaps]

Huge game for Barnes tonight

I'm feeling a 30 piece.

[Vampirate]

I need 20/8/5 from you scot barns

Going to be honest with you.

I can't find a Scottie Barnes comparison, he's his own player.

Bring up Pippen and....Barnes is way better than Pippen offensively at this stage in their careers, even with the let down last year.

Bring up AK...AK peaked at 17.6 PPG and has never once had more than 4 assists per game.

I've seen people bring up Ron Artest and that's laughable.

Ben Simmons? Barnes was never afraid to shoot, even when he was very bad.

Aaron Gordon? Even with the down year, Barnes is hands down better than Gordon at the same stage in their careers.

Draymond Green, probably the closest comparison but Draymond plays with Steph and Klay, and topped out at 14 PPG in his best season (he shot well from 3 that year, never since)


When you look at the totality of what barnes brings, I don't think there's another comparison.

Jokic ain't it, barnes has nowhere near the ceiling Jokic is offensively, but has a higher ceiling defensively (I believe)

Harden has the stats, but isn't the Defender Barnes is.

I saw you bring up Sabonis before, but that's also a bad comparison.

Kawhi has the efficiency and defence, but not the playmaking.

Giannis never developed the shooting.

Tbh, the closest comparison i'm thinking of is Lebron without the first step.


In short, Barnes is probably one of a kind.

[HumbleRen]

Humbling experience for Scottie.

Still a massive gap between him and Tatum in skill.
Use it as fuel.

[MiamiSPX]

Incoming incoherent 4am post......

[WetLikeWater]

Yeeaaa this game is sad

[Tor_Raps]

So after a great start, Barnes TS has dipped to 56%. For a guy who can easy buckets as often as him, it's not a good look.

Soon it can turn into Barnes just putting up numbers on a crappy team if he doesn't fix his shot selection.

[Randle McMurphy]

Soon it can turn into Barnes just putting up numbers on a crappy team if he doesn't fix his shot selection.

Isn't that what's already happening? The Raptors are bad.

[HumbleRen]

So after a great start, Barnes TS has dipped to 56%. For a guy who can easy buckets as often as him, it's not a good look.

Soon it can turn into Barnes just putting up numbers on a crappy team if he doesn't fix his shot selection.

I hope his fans who were adamant that he didn’t need to be a good 3 point shooter for him to reach his ceiling can shut up about it when I bring it up. Just look at how transformative it was for his game for being a great shooter for just simply one week and a half. He was instantly putting up 20+ in his sleep.

That 3 point shot is going to be the difference in him being a better version of Siakam or a legitimate top 10 player at his peak.

I don’t think anyone expected him to stay at 37-40% from 3 but hopefully he can hover at around 33-35% for the season.

[gbball]

He still struggles to break his man down off the dribble.

He lets up a bit when he doesn't have to. It's a mix of footwork and mentality. He should use the hesitation dribble with more frequency and he's also got to find a way to get lower so he doesn't get bumped off his line so easily. When he's upright his center of gravity is usually way higher than whoever's guarding him.

[gbball]

It'd be great if he had a better first step, but I think it's the finishing step that gives him issues. He doesn't get to the rim under control very much...taking off too far, or moving too much horizontally instead of vertically. Also getting bumped off his line easily.

In general, when I watch Barnes move, he has a very wide turn radius. This really limits his ability to be a dynamic presence in the half-court due to lack of sharp cuts or quick change of direction.

I think there is a solution, but I don't know what it is.

[Blazing_royale]

This loss was a nice wakeup call for Barnes to keep improving.

[Chandan]

It'd be great if he had a better first step, but I think it's the finishing step that gives him issues. He doesn't get to the rim under control very much...taking off too far, or moving too much horizontally instead of vertically. Also getting bumped off his line easily.

In general, when I watch Barnes move, he has a very wide turn radius. This really limits his ability to be a dynamic presence in the half-court due to lack of sharp cuts or quick change of direction.

I think there is a solution, but I don't know what it is.

gather and go up strong with intention.

[Madvillainy2004]

I need an efficient 20 points today from Scottie this Wizards defense is a joke besides Gafford who's a foul machine.

[SFour]

Barnes at 19, above Lebron

Read on Twitter

[Scase]

Barnes at 19, above Lebron

Read on Twitter

How is it calculated? So many damn stats out there it's hard to keep up.

[TRik]

I need an efficient 20 points today from Scottie this Wizards defense is a joke besides Gafford who's a foul machine.

Could this be the 40 piece game to fulfil Reeko’s preseason prediction???

[SFour]

Barnes at 19, above Lebron

Spoiler:

Read on Twitter

How is it calculated? So many damn stats out there it's hard to keep up.

Global Rating is a statistical tool created by HoopsHype’s Alberto de Roa that measures players’ and teams’ performance taking into account not only individual stats but also team and competition strength.

As opposed to some other advanced stats, the main idea is that individual stats can’t be measured in a vacuum. No matter the competition, having a 20-10-5 season for the championship team will always have more value than doing it for the worst team. And when comparing competitions, having a great season against the best squads in the world will always have more value than accomplishing that against minnows. The goal for Global Rating is to understand and measure this nuance.

The process has several automated steps. First one is to assign an individual number factoring simple stats from each player. Points, rebounds, assists, blocks, steals, turnovers, fouls and shooting efficiency are the basis for that stat.

The next step takes into account the performance of the team and the impact a player had in it. If a player is on the court for 35 minutes in a 20-point win, the impact has nothing to do with the one of a player who only logged five minutes.

The amount of games a player has missed in a certain season or competition is also factored in. That helps differentiate players that have been productive for their teams on a regular basis from others standing out due to small samples. That’s especially useful when discussing awards, where voters and fans prioritize players who have been on the court for most of the year.

[lobosloboslobos]

Scottie now averaging 1.4 steals and 2 blocks gives him 3.4 stocks per game
only player in the league with a higher total is Wemby who has 3.5

no other player is over 3.0

[YogurtProducer]

Scottie now averaging 1.4 steals and 2 blocks gives him 3.4 stocks per game
only player in the league with a higher total is Wemby who has 3.5

no other player is over 3.0

In more excited about Barnes defensive potential than his offensive.

[lobosloboslobos]

Scottie now averaging 1.4 steals and 2 blocks gives him 3.4 stocks per game
only player in the league with a higher total is Wemby who has 3.5

no other player is over 3.0

In more excited about Barnes defensive potential than his offensive.

I'm completely confident that he will become a dominant offensive player in time.
And a dominant defensive one.
Basically, if all goes well, he should be an MVP candidate for a decade
starting next year or the year after