Special_Puppy wrote:People bring up a *player's* ORTG and DRTG makes me want to end it all in Minecraft. Those are absolutely awful stats and there's no reason to use them when better ones exist
meh, DRTG might capture only certain aspects of defense and obviously you also have to examine who shares the floor with the player your looking at but don't kid urself, there's a high correlation between defensive impact and DRTG
here are the facts:
for a good number of years now, you guys have been saying the same things about Jokic's defense. some posters have also said over and over that because of said "bad defense" - Jokic will never lead his team anywhere and will be "exposed" in the playoffs
year after year, Denver's defense plummets when he sits on the bench. if he's such a liability, how do u explain this strange phenomenon? lmfao
so BPM overvalues assists for big men, +- doesn't count, on\off - nothing is relevant except your eye test of Embiid blocking some shots? there's alot more to defense than shotblocking, especially nowadays where sets can get pretty complex
yes, Embiid can jump higher and time his blocks better but Jokic is much better at knowing where to be in order to be effective and in directing his teammaes to the correct spot. he's a better defensive "anchor" who makes the players around him better on both ends
his defense was excellent during their title run, how long are u gonna keep it going?
Nikola Jokic is an excellent defender. he is very limited in certain aspects of defense but he more than makes up for it in other aspects, as evidenced by whatever stat you can think of
we've been through this bs so many times...
when u hit 65% of your shots and dish a ton of easy assists to your teamates, that means more of your opponent's offensive possessions start as half court sets, which are much less likely (on average) to yield points than transition offense
oh, and he leads the league in Dreb (and has been in the top 3 probably for years now) - that's another great way of ending an offensive possession in an advantageuos way
but the Jokic haters disregard all that (intentionally). suddenly defensive rebounds aren't a part of defense
check out opponent FG%, in different distances - Jokic is doing just fine. his %'s are similar to Embiid's and even the number of shots, so no1 can argue he "deters" more shots
there is nothing to support the claim any real defensive gap in favor of Embiid, it's just reputation at this point.
Embiid makes the highlight defensive plays but his motor is suspect and so is his concentration, dude takes alot of plays off and is constantly out of position
we saw Embiid getting cooked defensively last playoffs, cooked hard at that while Jokic gave his 100% effort on every play and anchored a pretty good defense. good enough to win a 'chip anyway...
