Celts Kick 'Em Right in the Knickers! Victory Cigar vs NYK 11/13

[chrisab123]

Cs need to find another bench big better than Kornet that can shoot the 3. You can tell Mazulla doesnt like playing Kornet because of that.

The assumption has been that we need a better 3rd big. Is the reality that we need a new second big? Is Horford showing signs he is in steep decline? I hope it’s just early season and he knows he needs to save his best for late season and playoffs but this is an early concern of mine. Even more reason why getting KP was so important.

I think they don't like playing Kornet because hes a stiff. Sure they'd love to find a 7 foot guy who likes to take 3 pointers because thats more important to them than defense, but Kornet really does nothing well. I'm not sure why he's here.

[Hal14]

Peter Vecsey:

Tatum misfired seven straight treys going into fourth quadrant, then buried five straight (35 points) and the Knicks, 114-98. Only a select few earn a license to continue to lock & load no matter what. Meanwhile, not a single Knick could start for Boston…

The Knicks are a good and very tough team, but when you think about this, it's true. If Brunson played for Boston he'd be the ultimate sixth man, an absolute demoralizing scorcher off the bench. But he might very well not start,

Brunson would definitely start, and White would come off the bench.

[CelticsPride18]

Cs need to find another bench big better than Kornet that can shoot the 3. You can tell Mazulla doesnt like playing Kornet because of that.

The assumption has been that we need a better 3rd big. Is the reality that we need a new second big? Is Horford showing signs he is in steep decline? I hope it’s just early season and he knows he needs to save his best for late season and playoffs but this is an early concern of mine. Even more reason why getting KP was so important.

I think they don't like playing Kornet because hes a stiff. Sure they'd love to find a 7 foot guy who likes to take 3 pointers because thats more important to them than defense, but Kornet really does nothing well. I'm not sure why he's here.

Kornet plays smart on both ends. He’s been a fine 3rd big. Most teams don’t even have a 2nd good big

[ConstableGeneva]

We lost 3 of our 4 matchups vs the Knicks last season. In that regard, this team is already better than last season's. When do we play Orlando?

[ConstableGeneva]

Read on Twitter

On top of being the best defensive backcourt in the league.

[KillahGhostface]

While Al looks brutal offensively, let’s not ignore that he’s been one of the best defensive players in the league so far.

If he has to choose which end to expend his energy, we’d all want it to be defensively.

[return2glory]

NIce win.

VC goes to Tatum and KP.

Tatum was great.

KP and Brown were really good.

Tatum and Brown combined for 13 assists while limited their TOs to a combined 6. That is probably the best of the year for them combined. Both of them did really well moving the ball around and finding open teammates.

Hauser was really good. Jrue came up big in the 2nd half.

White struggled and has not been the same since coming back. It will take him a while adjusting to a new born.

[KillahGhostface]

I loved that game.

The Knicks are super physical, and they make you play hard for 48 minutes.

[GoCeltics123]

If we ever get Josh Hart on this team, I swear to god that I’ll have special alone time to a picture of Brad stevens and the trade machine.

That play where he threw it off Jrue for the 3 was insane. Dude isn't as good as Derrick White but he does the same type of stuff

[KillahGhostface]

If we ever get Josh Hart on this team, I swear to god that I’ll have special alone time to a picture of Brad stevens and the trade machine.

That play where he threw it off Jrue for the 3 was insane. Dude isn't as good as Derrick White but he does the same type of stuff

He kind of reminds me of GS Iggy, with less playmaking.

[31to6]

I loved the part where Quickley wasn't dancing around -- because he sucked and they lost.
It's important to me that we never see that again

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

voted JT and KP, but shout out to Jrue for hitting 15k, and I LOVE that he just guards the other team's best player. **** positions, and **** you, he's guarding you and you will NOT like it. That is transcendent swagger and I love it.

[KillahGhostface]

Jaylen had 10 potential assists with 3 turnovers, which I am fine with those numbers. He’s at 5.9 potential assists for the season, which is low, but we don’t consistently ask him to create, and he’s really kept the turnovers down for the most part.

On top of the 35 points, Tatum had 16 potential assists last night, just shredded the Knicks defense. He’s at 8.1 potential assists for the season, but it’s been trending up, and pretty quickly. He’s playing pretty much perfect basketball through ten games.

Pritchard quietly has become pretty good as a backup pg, even without the shots falling. He’s up over 7 potential assists per game, which is a great number for him.

[31to6]

Watch on YouTube

It's was 91-88 with under 8 mins left in the game. Tatum scored or assisted 18 of Cs last 23 points. He made 4 straight threes after going 1/8. The entire Knicks team scored 10 points during that span. That's how you lead and put away a team.

Remember when Jayson Tatum started seasons cold from the field, and we said 'just wait til Tatum's shooting %s normalize?'

31to6 remembers

[31to6]

Jaylen had 10 potential assists with 3 turnovers, which I am fine with those numbers. He’s at 5.9 potential assists for the season, which is low, but we don’t consistently ask him to create, and he’s really kept the turnovers down for the most part.

On top of the 35 points, Tatum had 16 potential assists last night, just shredded the Knicks defense. He’s at 8.1 potential assists for the season, but it’s been trending up, and pretty quickly. He’s playing pretty much perfect basketball through ten games.

Pritchard quietly has become pretty good as a backup pg, even without the shots falling. He’s up over 7 potential assists per game, which is a great number for him.

who would've thought that adding Porzingis would suddenly unlock a "passing" dimension in Jaylen's brain?

I love it. I want their minutes tied together basically all the time. Keep looking for each other! Did they just become best friends???

[165bows]

Read on Twitter

Better than Duncan Robinson, McDermott, Steve Novak, and early years Korver.

clearly you have no issues with saying the "can't say why".

I am curious if there is some general trend in under-valuing in that situation overall (or it's at least possible). Guys like Strus, Hauser, Austin Reeves who seem like solid enough NBA players going undrafted. I've wondered if it's a place to find some under-valued talent due to the possiblity they might be falling through the cracks a little bit.

[165bows]

Jaylen had 10 potential assists with 3 turnovers, which I am fine with those numbers. He’s at 5.9 potential assists for the season, which is low, but we don’t consistently ask him to create, and he’s really kept the turnovers down for the most part.

On top of the 35 points, Tatum had 16 potential assists last night, just shredded the Knicks defense. He’s at 8.1 potential assists for the season, but it’s been trending up, and pretty quickly. He’s playing pretty much perfect basketball through ten games.

Pritchard quietly has become pretty good as a backup pg, even without the shots falling. He’s up over 7 potential assists per game, which is a great number for him.

who would've thought that adding Porzingis would suddenly unlock a "passing" dimension in Jaylen's brain?

I love it. I want their minutes tied together basically all the time. Keep looking for each other! Did they just become best friends???

"KP is hilarious, he's always winking at me!" is a pretty under rated comedic line lol.

[165bows]

That play where he threw it off Jrue for the 3 was insane. Dude isn't as good as Derrick White but he does the same type of stuff

He kind of reminds me of GS Iggy, with less playmaking.

Poor man's version of Dray would be a good fit on this team.

[steefP2]

Jaylen had 10 potential assists with 3 turnovers, which I am fine with those numbers. He’s at 5.9 potential assists for the season, which is low, but we don’t consistently ask him to create, and he’s really kept the turnovers down for the most part.

On top of the 35 points, Tatum had 16 potential assists last night, just shredded the Knicks defense. He’s at 8.1 potential assists for the season, but it’s been trending up, and pretty quickly. He’s playing pretty much perfect basketball through ten games.

Pritchard quietly has become pretty good as a backup pg, even without the shots falling. He’s up over 7 potential assists per game, which is a great number for him.

who would've thought that adding Porzingis would suddenly unlock a "passing" dimension in Jaylen's brain?

I love it. I want their minutes tied together basically all the time. Keep looking for each other! Did they just become best friends???

He was always decent at finding rob. Jaylen just doesn’t find people to the side of him. But if you’re in front of him or he knows you’re gonna pop; he’s not bad. But 0 peripheral vision lol

[sam_I_am]

While Al looks brutal offensively, let’s not ignore that he’s been one of the best defensive players in the league so far.

If he has to choose which end to expend his energy, we’d all want it to be defensively.

When Horford is subbed in for Porzingas with the starting lineup the defensive rating has been 122 and offensive rating 75. He has been brutal at times on both ends. There have been times where he has been targeted by quicker players and I’m not used to seeing that. I hope and still expect that he has one really good season left - like Paul Pierce in Washington - and that by playoffs he can be closer to the guy he’s been the last 2 years. The early returns are concerning because as great as KP has been, we have no idea if he can match the physicality of the later playoff rounds the way Al always had. In fact, I have a pretty good idea he can’t when you see our coaches putting Holiday on guys like Randall and Embiid so regularly.

[steefP2]

While Al looks brutal offensively, let’s not ignore that he’s been one of the best defensive players in the league so far.

If he has to choose which end to expend his energy, we’d all want it to be defensively.

When Horford is subbed in for Porzingas with the starting lineup the defensive rating has been 122 and offensive rating 75. He has been brutal at times on both ends. There have been times where he has been targeted and carved up and I’m not used to seeing that. I hope and still expect that he has one really good season left - like Paul Pierce in Washington - and that by playoffs he can be closer to the guy he’s been the last 2 years. The early returns are concerning because as great as KP has been, we have no idea if he can match the physicality of the later playoff rounds the way Al always had.

Instead of using a sample of 31 possessions you can use the +400 possessions when Horford is on the floor and the team has a 108.8 drtg which is still very good. Furthermore when you look at the nba defensive dashboard you can see he’s 4th on the team in shots contested and 2nd in differential meaning opponents shoot around 5% worse then expected when Horford is defending the shot which is very good.


Obviously this tracking data isn’t the most reliable thing out there but generally, outside a few lowlight plays, I would say he’s been very good.