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76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#621 » by M2J » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:40 pm

Doramas wrote:
M2J wrote:Yeah, I just can't trust Brogdon being healthy. It's likely to be Siakam. I don't know if he hates Nurse or not. But plenty of players hate their coaches.

He's got a cameroonian connection, it's also the best opportunity for him to win and fit in, and get maxed out. I think his shooting will be fine enough. 35-36% ish.
Kelly Oubre and Roco Prove he can work with this group and the offense will flow. Or just get Grant


He's already won, he's already got a ring, and we don't know if he's going to prioritise financially or his ambition to win a second ring.



Well I think paying him is a given. I think he's sacrificing already got Barnes this year
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#622 » by Doramas » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:44 pm

For me the priority at the Foward position would be Mikal Bridges or OG Anunoby.
If neither of them can be brought in, I really like PJ Washington and DeAndre Hunter.
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Post#623 » by Negrodamus » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:55 pm

I think DeRozan is likely off the table because he's looking for another big payday and we'd like to get him for more than a rental.

LaVine unfortunately feels like a guy we'll target. I just really hope we don't.
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Post#624 » by elchengue20 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:57 pm

So Lavine is getting shopped. Just saw his contract, is too toxic. I woudnt mind him for the right price but that contract its just too much. Not worth it at all.

I dont want another Tobias Harris situation as we are finally getting out of that contract, its crucial to spend our cap wisely this time.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#625 » by M2J » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:01 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I think DeRozan is likely off the table because he's looking for another big payday and we'd like to get him for more than a rental.

LaVine unfortunately feels like a guy we'll target. I just really hope we don't.


Lavine is a Morey target likely, but I think he'd rely on Nurse for fit. We'll see
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#626 » by Jailblazers7 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:04 pm

The problem with a Lavine trade is that we need to either trade Tobi or some combo of Batum, Roco, and Melton. I don’t really want to lose any of those players who give us a ton of length at forward for the first time ever.

I wonder if GSW gives him a look. They are really lacking scoring punch but they’d have to trade or fully marginalize Klay, which they seem reluctant to do.
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Post#627 » by Negrodamus » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:14 pm

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Could be Pat Williams if they want picks and we're not willing to give up on our depth.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#628 » by Sixerscan » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:19 pm

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Sixerscan wrote:Brogdon would nuke our option for cap space next summer, for a guy who the Clippers blew up a trade for a few months ago after seeing his medicals.

OG and Tobias are different players. OG can still be a super valuable player without scoring or having the ball a lot in a way Tobias can’t. He slots in much better as a 3rd guy which is what we’re looking for. With Tobias they were basically trying to force him as a second option because of the weird Simmons situation.


I don't disagree that OG is a better fit with Jo + Max. The problem is the opportunity cost of sending all our trade chips PLUS signing him probably to a max contract.

Re: Brogdon he didn't fail a physical with the Clippers. He got removed from the KP trade because there wasn't time enough for a physical before KP's midnight deadline to make the trade happen. But obviously he'd need to pass a physical for us to acquire him.

And his contract won't be an issue next summer. If needed, we could dump it to a cap space team. But being an over-the-cap team is probably better since it won't require us to purge all our depth.

Got it on Brogdon, at the same time of course there’s a reason why him not doing a physical wasn't ok as opposed to other guys in the trade. Also there’s only a few other teams with cap space this summer, probably all of which aren’t a Brogdon from a title, maybe they hold us hostage for a pick or something, that happens sometimes.

I don’t want to trade for OG or anyone right now (short of like a cheap ball handler to play over Furk), but around the deadline you should have a decent landscape of the options this summer. There’s some opportunity cost but also after Maxey gets paid I’m not sure if they’re going to have the same flexibility to trade for guys after that.

I do think a key part of the leverage with the raptors in a trade is just the threat of signing either guy outright. Maybe if you don’t want them/anyone in free agency you just trade for Brogdon a minute before the deadline but I wouldn’t do it before that.
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Post#629 » by Skates » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:30 pm

I don’t want Lavine, but trade movement always creates opportunities to be the third team in a deal or to grab other players from a team like the Bulls in a separate deal. The Lakers are always star hunting, I could see them looking for a Bulls deal for Lavine or Derozan or even Vucevich.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#630 » by Sixersftw » Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:03 pm

Skates wrote:I don’t want Lavine, but trade movement always creates opportunities to be the third team in a deal or to grab other players from a team like the Bulls in a separate deal. The Lakers are always star hunting, I could see them looking for a Bulls deal for Lavine or Derozan or even Vucevich.

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#631 » by Arsenal » Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:08 pm

I want to grab Patrick Williams.

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#632 » by M2J » Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:09 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:The problem with a Lavine trade is that we need to either trade Tobi or some combo of Batum, Roco, and Melton. I don’t really want to lose any of those players who give us a ton of length at forward for the first time ever.

I wonder if GSW gives him a look. They are really lacking scoring punch but they’d have to trade or fully marginalize Klay, which they seem reluctant to do.


Wouldn't trade Tobi for him. That does nothing for Chicago. They can send Morris, Roco, House, Furkan, and a minimum out to take care of the salaries. Plus draft capital ofcourse

Leaving Sixers with Joel, Maxey, Lavine, Tobi, Batum, Oubre, Melton, Reed, as their main rotation
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#633 » by Stanford » Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:11 pm

Glad Sixers fans are united on Lavine
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#634 » by GutUNC » Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:12 pm

Is there any reason to think Mikal can be had other then that we really really really want him to be?
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#635 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:35 pm

I could be wrong, but I don't think Daryl blows his load on LaVine. He has historically targeted impactful players from an advanced metrics standpoint and LaVine doesn't match that profile.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#636 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:01 pm

I'm warming up to pursuing Brogdon in the short term. Won't ruin our cap flexibility next year either. I imagine he'll have a bone to pick with Boston too. Morris + a couple of 2nds.


Maxey/Beverley/Springer
Brogdon/Melton/Korkmaz
Batum/Oubre/House
Harris/Covington/Martin
Embiid/Reed/Bamba


Then go after OG in the summer.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#637 » by SixthStreet » Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:12 pm

Brogdon could easily torpedo best laid plans if he's knee/shoulder whatever implodes after we trade for him and then his contract is immovable, eating into our cap in the offseason.

Brogdon and Lavine are absolute hard no's for me. I can be talked into any other acquisition (well not KPJ or Miles Bridges for obvious reasons too), but absolutely not those two. Fortunately, given both Morey's track record and his stated position in interviews so far after the Harden trade, I'd be shocked if either are on his radar.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#638 » by Kobblehead » Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:23 pm

Patrick Williams
Alex Caruso
Jevon Carter

Those are the Bulls we need.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#639 » by DCasey91 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:23 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:I could be wrong, but I don't think Daryl blows his load on LaVine. He has historically targeted impactful players from an advanced metrics standpoint and LaVine doesn't match that profile.



Morey is a data guy and loves value. He’d see that contract and go yuck. Basically everything he’s done so far in his tenure is grab the most value he can. Truely spectacular job from where the list was.

Structurally too he usually setups the contracts in a specific way. With Maxey inside the cap (NBA is very weird it’s a super soft capped sport)

It’s 2 max contracts + Maxey + value down the line.

I still think Bane is a target
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#640 » by DCasey91 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:27 pm

Great thing about the GM we have is that he doesn’t half it which way. If it’s going all in this season or next I’m betting the house the move is going to happen.

Players like Derozan, Grant, don’t fit the philosophy.
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